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Judge dismisses Cal. eligibility challenge - Plaintiffs promise appeal of ruling protecting Obama
WND ^ | 10/29/09 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 10/29/2009 11:46:17 AM PDT by pissant

A California judge has dismissed a complaint challenging President Obama's eligibility to be president citing the "birth certificate from the state of Hawaii" that apparently refers to an Internet image of a "Certification of Live Birth" released during Obama's campaign.

The ruling came this morning from Judge David Carter who as WND reported last night apparently recently hired a law clerk out of the law firm that has been paid nearly $1.7 million to defend Obama from such eligibility challenges.

A Wikipedia page has been cited by dozens of bloggers after it listed Siddarth Velamoor as one of the newest law clerks for Carter – who today released his ruling dismissing the complaint in the Barnett v. Obama case in the Central District, Southern Division Court in Santa Ana, Calif.

Velamoor is also listed in the Martindale lawyer database as an associate of international law firm Perkins Coie, the same law firm of Robert Bauer – top lawyer for Obama, Obama's presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and Obama's Organizing for America – and the same Washington, D.C., lawyer who defended President Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; article2section1; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; citizenship; eligibility; ineligible; keyes; keyesvobama; larrysinclairslover; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamatruthfile; orly; orlytaitz; taitz; usurper
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1 posted on 10/29/2009 11:46:17 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

So what is the score? Home ??, Visitors ??? Is Obama still in the White House?


2 posted on 10/29/2009 11:48:30 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: pissant

Time for the pitchforks and torches! (figuratively, of course!)


3 posted on 10/29/2009 11:48:37 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: RebelTXRose

We should continue to appeal and file suits, but we may want to spend more energy on 2012. There are enough Freepers around the country to work in their state and find out the laws for certifying candidates and filing a suit before the Dem nomination for 2012.


4 posted on 10/29/2009 11:52:33 AM PDT by ccruse456
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To: pissant

The fix is in.


5 posted on 10/29/2009 11:53:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: BenLurkin

Sure seems that way.


6 posted on 10/29/2009 11:54:17 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

This whole business is beginning to reek.
We must continue to follow up, there is a
loose thread here somewhere and when we find
it, the whole tangled skein will come unraveled.


7 posted on 10/29/2009 11:58:46 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: sickoflibs
Nah, here's where we are, feel better?

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8 posted on 10/29/2009 12:00:18 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: pissant

JUDGE CARTER NOW AN INSTANT MILLIONAIRE


9 posted on 10/29/2009 12:01:21 PM PDT by manonCANAL
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To: pissant

Carter cited Kreep’s arguments that Obama never met the constitutional requirements to run for president.

“There may very well be a legitimate role for the judiciary to interpret whether the natural born citizen requirement has been satisfied in the case of a presidential candidate who has not already won the election and taken office. However, on the day that President Obama took the presidential oath and was sworn in, he became president of the United States. Any removal of him from the presidency must be accomplished through the Constitution’s mechanisms for the removal of a president, either through impeachment or the succession process set forth in the Twenty-Fifth Amendment.”


So the bottom line is that if you can fake/fraud your way to the swearing in ceremony you win. Gee who knew?


10 posted on 10/29/2009 12:02:10 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Las Vegas Ron

LOL, thanks


11 posted on 10/29/2009 12:02:24 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: ccruse456

It seems to me that we should get a strong pubbie state (maybe Utah) to pass a law that all presidential candidates must present their long form birth cert to be able to be included on the presidential ballet, thus ensuring the candidates ability to meet the provisions in the US Constitution.

Maybe that law could be in effect in 2010.

Then it would be operative for Zero’s run in 2012 to force his hand.


12 posted on 10/29/2009 12:02:31 PM PDT by aShepard
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To: LucyT

Ping.

The fraud wins again.


13 posted on 10/29/2009 12:03:12 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: pissant
From the questions he asked earlier in this hearing, I am not surprised at his ruling.It's pretty obvious Obama is ineligible. I don't think the courts have the stomach for it, though.
14 posted on 10/29/2009 12:04:26 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: TheThinker

I don’t think there is any judge willing to let this go forward. They like having kneecaps.


15 posted on 10/29/2009 12:08:35 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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To: ccruse456
"...but we may want to spend more energy on 2012."

Starting right now.....no incumbents will or should get anyone's vote. Obama must not be allowed to continue to trash our Constitution rather, he must be made to obey it...Pelosi's congress has helped destroy the nation by voting along party lines and not for America. Throw the BUMS OUT! No To H.R. 3200! No to any part of it. What is being agreed on now by the likes of Christopher Dodd, globalist Rockefeller etc. is not about health care, it is about absolute power from Washington.

16 posted on 10/29/2009 12:09:02 PM PDT by yoe
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To: pissant

Well, this certainly stinks to high Heaven. Apparently, no logic in the argument that a fraudulent candidate can’t be considered an acceptable office holder, or this decision would not have been rendered. I ain’t buyin’ it...

The socialist is INELIGIBLE unless and until he produces irrefutable evidence that he is a natural born citizen.

It’s time to take back the country. And, we can’t count on hizzoner Judge Carter, former Marine or not...


17 posted on 10/29/2009 12:11:35 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: sickoflibs

I wonder what happened?

On September 14, 2009, Orly promised that she would have Obama out of office within 30 days.

And, now that case gets tossed?

Surprise, Surprise, Surprise!


18 posted on 10/29/2009 12:13:29 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: pissant

Going to need some super damning evidence that the courts can’t refuse.


19 posted on 10/29/2009 12:14:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Smokeyblue; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; ...
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Judge dismisses Cal. eligibility challenge - Plaintiffs promise appeal of ruling protecting Obama

[Thank you, Smokeyblue.]

20 posted on 10/29/2009 12:15:36 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: RebelTXRose
Time for the pitchforks and torches! (figuratively, of course!)

Time for the rifles (figuratively, of course!)

21 posted on 10/29/2009 12:20:24 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: pissant

Well it’s not like Barry could just spend $12 and produce a Long Form Birth Certificate.

We’re told there’s nothing to hide, so let’s see it.

Shouldn’t be a problem, should it?

After all, he makes $350,000/yr plus $50,000 in expense account.

Seems like $12 would be pocket change.

Then we will know which doctor in which hospital delivered Barry.

I’m sure folks would like to know all about the doctor and perhaps make a shrine at the hospital.


22 posted on 10/29/2009 12:20:29 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: BenLurkin

...the fix is in....

Maybe a better advocate, attorney and frontperson other than Orly Taitz would help. She is radioactive.


23 posted on 10/29/2009 12:21:00 PM PDT by mono
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To: RebelTXRose
No, not figuratively. Literally. We are witness to a coup, and the democratic process in this country is dead. The country is being dismantled before our very eyes, and there is no longer any means for redress of grievances. Tea parties that turn out millions, overflowing town hall meetings with representatives, petitions, lawsuits; all are ignored. It is well past the time for protest, as every form of protest is ignored. It is time for action.
24 posted on 10/29/2009 12:21:40 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Welcome to the Second American Revolution)
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To: pissant; LucyT

Bump to there are no coincidences!!


25 posted on 10/29/2009 12:22:02 PM PDT by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: pissant

Screwed once again by a liberal leftie judge. It makes no difference whether Judge Carter was an ex-marine or not. Left-wing socialism is a cult religion and will always run deeper than blood, race, or any normal religion. The good guys are screwed again & again by the frikkin rat bastard 0bozo and the fanatics who will go to any lengths to protect this commie pig bastard usurper 0bozo. A military coup is the only way we will ever see the removal of this corrupt thug POS.


26 posted on 10/29/2009 12:22:12 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: All

This is the second time a judge has referred the internet image as ‘proof’.

Does anyone care that they are setting a dangerous precident of what can be accepted as proof in other cases? Or is all that matters is the precious Zero is protected?

I have officially given up hope for this country.


27 posted on 10/29/2009 12:22:40 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: paul51

Soap box.
Then:
Ballot box.
Then:
Jury box.
Then:
?


28 posted on 10/29/2009 12:26:08 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 280 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: trumandogz
How could this happen? I am thinking that this is a conspiracy too. It's the vast Obama network. What is scary is that FNC and Ann Coulter appear to be in on it too, or scared of Obama. And talk radio conservatives too. Fortunately there a few of us 'true' conservatives that believe in the constitution here so we can sympathize with each other, after every lost court case.
29 posted on 10/29/2009 12:27:50 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: JoeA

I’ve felt like this for a few months now.


30 posted on 10/29/2009 12:28:10 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: pissant

And... another judge bites the dust!

He bent over and asked “How Wide”?

Thank you Judge Carter, you have screwed your country well.


31 posted on 10/29/2009 12:30:19 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: autumnraine; Smokeyblue
Carter - “There may very well be a legitimate role for the judiciary to interpret whether the natural born citizen requirement has been satisfied in the case of a presidential candidate who has not already won the election and taken office. However, on the day that President Obama took the presidential oath and was sworn in, he became president of the United States. Any removal of him from the presidency must be accomplished through the Constitution’s mechanisms for the removal of a president, either through impeachment or the succession process set forth in the Twenty-Fifth Amendment.”

And the argument we heard before the usurper was in office was you couldn't sue Obama since he was not president yet and only running for office. A complete end run around the Constitution.

32 posted on 10/29/2009 12:31:04 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: F15Eagle

“Im sure folks would like to know all about the doctor and perhaps make a shrine at the hospital”. Good point. Since being in office he has been named man of the year and won the nobel peace prize. How come the lib media hasn’t started on a shrine at his birthplace? It could be a national treasure ahead of it’s time. Hell, I am willing to start a drive to contruct a shrine to his obamaness. I am personally donating the “change” left in my pocket to start the drive. Just tell me what country it is to be located and provide real proof.


33 posted on 10/29/2009 12:31:25 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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To: pissant

So there is not one honorable judge in our country... sad, very sad.


34 posted on 10/29/2009 12:32:33 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: sickoflibs
Fortunately there a few of us 'true' conservatives that believe in the constitution here so we can sympathize with each other, after every lost court case.

You?

BS.

35 posted on 10/29/2009 12:33:15 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: trumandogz

The case was tossed on a lack of jurisdiction.
Not lack of proof.

However, Taitz DID screw up. Had she filed a day earlier, Judge Carter would have had a different set of circumstances to consider. Because of in-fighting between Kreep and Taitz, the filing was delayed until AFTER the swearing-in ceremony.

Judge Carter DID throw us some bones. Prior to the swearing-in ceremony, his opinion was that Alan Keyes DID have standing. This opens the door to another court challenge, once Obama declares himself a candidate for 2012.


36 posted on 10/29/2009 12:37:32 PM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: Red Steel; trumandogz
RE :You? (a 'true' conservative?) BS.

LOL

37 posted on 10/29/2009 12:40:24 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: kidd; pissant
another court challenge, once Obama declares himself a candidate for 2012.

There should be array of court challenges against Obama if he decides to run for 2012; not only sue him, sue the states to verify his Constitutional credentials to keep his butt off the ballots. Many states neglected to enforce their own laws. We should be well ready for him. He's not going to be able to skate through the next time.

38 posted on 10/29/2009 12:43:28 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

It appears from this decision you need some super damning evidence the House can’t refuse.


39 posted on 10/29/2009 12:44:19 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Smokeyblue
...if you can fake/fraud your way to the swearing in ceremony you win....

If you have a compliant Congress, yes. Which you have if you're Barry. Even under much better circumstances, though, impeachment of a president is tough, tough, tough. They had Clinton dead to rights, and he survived the trial. Andrew Johnson was impeached by an exceedingly hostile radical Republican Congress, and even they fell short of conviction.
40 posted on 10/29/2009 12:44:19 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Red Steel

RE :”Going to need some super damning evidence that the courts can’t refuse.”

Time to call Dan Rather. He is an expert at getting to the bottom of things. I bet he could find the foreign birth-certificate, made by Microsoft word.


41 posted on 10/29/2009 12:44:49 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: sickoflibs
Here you are

Oh yeah, LoL!

42 posted on 10/29/2009 12:45:56 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

It’s gonna be a long, long time until 2012. I really would like to see him gone before then. He doesn’t deserve to be there NOW! *sigh*


43 posted on 10/29/2009 12:46:19 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Red Steel

It would only take ONE STATE that required a long form birth certificate in order to get on the ballot.

Refusing to do so in that state would be a full admission,

(as if what he’s doing now isn’t a full admission).


44 posted on 10/29/2009 12:47:29 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: sickoflibs
Time for you to call Kieth Olbermann since he's an expert at shoveling and you too like to...


45 posted on 10/29/2009 12:49:27 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: All

JB Williams

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

(Snip)
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

___________________________________

A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.

She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!

She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.

So let’s get behind this great little Russian refugee and great American patriot.
Stop tearing her apart. The Obots don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcChG5pRTOE&feature=player_embedded

Please visit Dr. Orly’s website. Don’t be influenced by Obots.
Do what you can to help her.


46 posted on 10/29/2009 12:50:11 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Smokeyblue
“There may very well be a legitimate role for the judiciary to interpret whether the natural born citizen requirement has been satisfied in the case of a presidential candidate who has not already won the election and taken office. However, on the day that President Obama took the presidential oath and was sworn in, he became president of the United States. Any removal of him from the presidency must be accomplished through the Constitution’s mechanisms for the removal of a president, either through impeachment or the succession process set forth in the Twenty-Fifth Amendment.”

By that same logic, then there should be no "judicial review" of laws to see if they meet the Constitution --- if Congress passes it and the President signs it, then using that same standard, that law must be constitutionally legitimate.

47 posted on 10/29/2009 12:52:56 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Red Steel; trumandogz; Las Vegas Ron

Didnt I see that picture a few replies ago?

I got an idea, how about organizing a set of nationwide birth-certicater rallies ? We can get national press. And do it on a Monday, so the whole country is shut down when we dont show up for work. They would have to put that on the news. Finally the secret would be out and Obama would leave the HW in shame on his own. We need to think BIG!


48 posted on 10/29/2009 12:53:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: trumandogz
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Shoveling sh*t for the DNC

49 posted on 10/29/2009 12:54:40 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: missnry

And these judges want us to call them your honor..
You have to earn that title, not just demand people say it.

FU judge Carter ( you must have been one those we marines call Sh!tbird)


50 posted on 10/29/2009 12:55:00 PM PDT by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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