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Opinion: Real reparations for African-Americans: health care reform
mercurynews.com ^ | 10/25/2009 | Alessandra Harris

Posted on 10/26/2009 3:08:52 PM PDT by artichokegrower

As the public debate over health care reform continues, many African-Americans are concerned that the minority of voices loudly denouncing a public option might sideline the real reform their community desperately needs.

From the cradle to the grave, African-Americans have poorer health outcomes: African-American infant mortality is more than double that of whites; African-American women make up 70 percent of new HIV/AIDS infections; three times as many black Americans die from diabetes as white Americans; and the life expectancy for whites is 78 years, compared with 73 years for all African-Americans and less than 70 years for African-American males.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
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" If white America does not want the public option, give it to us."

Fine we'll give it to you as long as we don't have to pay for it.

1 posted on 10/26/2009 3:08:53 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

I’m not even gonna start.


2 posted on 10/26/2009 3:10:42 PM PDT by rae4palin
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The liberal black community doesn’t want anything if they have to pay for it.


3 posted on 10/26/2009 3:11:19 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: artichokegrower

Wouldn’t full reparations include repatriation?


4 posted on 10/26/2009 3:14:38 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: artichokegrower

Any “right” which bestows a material good upon a group of people will ultimately bankrupt the nation. If this isn’t an economic law, it should be.


5 posted on 10/26/2009 3:15:05 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: artichokegrower
If Obama spends enough money, the entire economy will collapse.

Guess who will be on the very, very, very, very bottom then?

6 posted on 10/26/2009 3:16:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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To: artichokegrower

I can’t believe it took this long for the first, “If you opppose government health care, you want to kill blacks” story to surface. There may have been others, but this is the first one I’ve seen that just comes out and says it.


7 posted on 10/26/2009 3:17:35 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: Darteaus94025

Seems like the only fair thing to do, if we’re still guilty today for what took place in the 1600s to 1700s. We should return any of them that think they are due reparations. We pay them a sum and return them to their homeland. I wouldn’t dream of making them stay here in the land of the oppressors.


8 posted on 10/26/2009 3:18:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Deficit spending, trade deficits, unsecure mortages, worthless paper... ... not a problem. Oh yeah?)
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To: artichokegrower

My thoughts exactly, only the African American and other low income families don’t realize that any government program is nothing more than modern slavery.


9 posted on 10/26/2009 3:19:09 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: artichokegrower
Figures. I'm against reparations also.
10 posted on 10/26/2009 3:19:12 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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What kind of crap is this? Who in their right mind thinks government health care can possibly be better than what we have now? How is that supposed to change societal dynamics that, for example, lead to the high rate of diabetes among the black population?


11 posted on 10/26/2009 3:19:17 PM PDT by perchprism
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Virtually all the things they are complaining about in that first paragraph are lifestyle things that only they can control. Black males have a shorter life expectancy as an average because many of them kill each other when they are teenagers, therefore skewing the statistic. Diabetes and heart disease are very often tied to other things that individuals control, such as obesity. Even infant mortality is tied to things such as maternal diet.

I remember a program at a Catholic hospital back in the 1970s. They provided a free pre-natal program for black ghetto residents that included things such as meal planning, pre-natal vitamins, etc. It was hard to get the girls to come to it, except that some of them were so young they didn’t have much choice. When asked at the beginning of the program what they ate for breakfast, the response was potato chips and Pepsi. When asked at the end of the program, the response was the same. In fact, that seemed to be what they ate for most meals. And the number of them who took the pre-natal vitamins could be counted on the fingers of one hand. They all got welfare and food stamps and WIC vouchers (or whatever their equivalent was then). They did absolutely nothing to help themselves or their babies.

Until the lower-income black population stops being so passive and expecting everybody else to live their lives for them, nothing is going to change, no matter how much money we throw at them. Better off blacks are doing them no favor by ignoring this and continuing to cover up for this dysfunctional group by blaming whitey.


12 posted on 10/26/2009 3:21:15 PM PDT by livius
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When a hospital has to make a rationing decision, are political ramifications going to guide their decision?


13 posted on 10/26/2009 3:21:57 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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“From the cradle to the grave, African-Americans have poorer health outcomes”

Because that includes the cradle to grave welfare parasites and the people that live off of them.


14 posted on 10/26/2009 3:22:24 PM PDT by dynachrome (I am Jim Thompson!)
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" If white America does not want the public option, give it to us."

Fine we'll give it to you as long as we don't have to pay for it.

You are exactly correct, and this the only morally valid option.

It is also what we need to work for to avoid a full-on armed 2nd Civil War. The progressives of all colors are welcome to however much of each other they vote themselves.

I am not available, however, for redistribution.

On any level, in any amount.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

15 posted on 10/26/2009 3:23:21 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: livius

No they won’t even accept someone else “living their lives for them.” Try to force them to put away those chips and Pepsi and see what happens!


16 posted on 10/26/2009 3:27:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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To: The Comedian

Nononono. They want reparations (keep on taxing whitey) not a self help plan!


17 posted on 10/26/2009 3:28:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ACORN: Absolute Criminal Organization of Reprobate Nuisances)
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Would their poor health prospects have anything to do with their sexual behavior, drug and alcohol abuse, poor eating habits or diet, and violence toward one another?

Black women are 15 to 20 pounds heavier than white women. Compare these two charts found at the following links.
White Women
BlackWomen

Black Men, OTOH, are a few pounds lighter than White Men. Here is a source for more charts.
Average height and weight charts

18 posted on 10/26/2009 3:29:11 PM PDT by Aroostook25
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African-American women make up 70 percent of new HIV/AIDS infections

And that is non-black peoples fault how??

19 posted on 10/26/2009 3:31:34 PM PDT by katnip ( Embittered Nativist)
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They all got welfare and food stamps and WIC vouchers

Food stamps and other food welfare should be limited to healthy basic food and specifically prohibit using such food welfare to buy snack foods, soda, and junk food. Make them use that welfare money to buy bags of raw potatoes instead of potato chips, and packages of fresh meat and frozen vegetables instead of frozen dinners.

20 posted on 10/26/2009 3:34:11 PM PDT by Aroostook25
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