A Fresh Look at Nebraska Man (how the evos used this fraud to change American education policy)

Journal of Creation ^ | Andrew Sibley

[GodGunsGuts]

Wolf and Mellett in their Talk origins paper, The Role of ‘Nebraska man’ in the creation-evolution debate,[1] claim Nebraska man was a careless mistake by an honest scientist. However, the evidence suggests that Osborn deliberately overstated the find because the theory of evolution was centre stage in a struggle for control of education policy in America...

[GodGunsGuts]

Ping!

[DonaldC]

Much of the health care, evolution, and climate “findings” can be best understood if one follows the money.

[mountainlion]

I like the artists conceptions of some of these fantasy animals. One Neanderthal had a nice long hair covered body. What happened to Peking man. Did they ever find the bones? Poor Lucy is a monkey again. Evolution is a funny soap opera like ongoing show.

[wendy1946]

Wolf and Mellett in their Talk origins paper, The Role of ‘Nebraska man’ in the creation-evolution debate,[1] claim Nebraska man was a careless mistake by an honest scientist.

That entire talk.origins "FAQ" system is a bunch of ideologically motivated BS. I refer to them as FGU's (Frequently Given-out Understandings) rather than FAQ's, the pronounciation (of FGU) being left to the reader's imagination...

[ClearCase_guy]

I support the idea of "teaching the controversy" and part of that means an examination of the willingness of some scientists to fudge their findings. There are no shortages of examples for this: many have to do with evolution, but climate change is also rich in such fraud.

Finding evidence of fraud in science does not necessarily invalidate the particular topic -- but it ought to show people that science is not perfect and that a good deal of scepticism is sometimes warranted. Unfortunately, with topics like evolution and climate change, a good number of supporters like to shout that "the debate is over". And so the important topic of fraud in scientific research is not used as a "teachable moment".

[GodGunsGuts]

PS I read the book Bones of Contention listed at the bottom of the article, it goes into all this stuff, and I found it nothing short of fascinating. All the best--GGG

[GodGunsGuts]

LOL...I will have to remember that the next time an evo tries to quote a Talk.Orginis “FAQ”!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Nathan Zachary]

"I like the artists conceptions of some of these fantasy animals. One Neanderthal had a nice long hair covered body."

Imagine the blood rush one of those dinosaurs with the 200 foot long neck must have got every time it bent down to take a bite of dino-grass.

They must have had terrible over eating problems as well, it could eat constantly for half a day before the first bite it took reached it's stomach.

Then, if it felt sick and had to barf, that would be some production.

They had large bodies, not because they needed large stomach and intestines to handle that barrage of food that finally began reaching it's stomach, but to hold those giant lungs. A dinosaur with a 200 foot neck would die from lack of oxegen if it didn't have extraordinary large lungs to get fersh air to them down that 200 foot long windpipe. If it was say 2 inches wide, the lungs would have to hold more than 400 cubic inches of air, at least 800 to get some fresh air into them. The rest of the body had to hold a massive multi chambered heart to pump all those gallons of blood under extreme preasures to it's pea-sized brian 200 feet up. It must have had arteries made of hydraulic hose material.

[mountainlion]

Imagine the blood rush one of those dinosaurs with the 200 foot long neck must have got every time it bent down to take a bite of dino-grass.

I wish I got a blood rush when I stooped over and not heartburn!

[count-your-change]

Shades of Lucy. No hands, no feet but that hasn’t stopped the illustrations of Lucy’s hands and feet.

And a pig’s tooth grows a whole body because that’s what’s needed at the moment.

[Natufian]

Which animal are you talking about with a 200’ neck?

[editor-surveyor]

"And a pig’s tooth grows a whole body because that’s what’s needed at the moment."

And that covers every so-called fossil 'find.' - There is seldom more than a fragment of a single bone, and out of that fragment rises an entire creature. It even tells them the shape of the forehead, the capacity of the cranium, the shape of the spine, and the exact structure of the feet!

Fantasy is ok, but don't tell me its science.

[Oztrich Boy]

Great book

[ColdWater]

And that covers every so-called fossil 'find.' - There is seldom more than a fragment of a single bone, and out of that fragment rises an entire creature.

[ColdWater]

The story of the origin of man looks likely to be rewritten yet again after the discovery in South Africa of a near-complete skeleton of an ape-man thought to be three million years old.
If confirmed, this would make the remains 500,000 years older than anything previously unearthed south of Tanzania.

The 1.22-metre-tall (four feet) hominid (ape-man) was discovered at Sterkfontein, north of Johannesburg. Professor Phillip Tobias, who led the team of researchers from South Africa’s University of the Witwatersrand, said on Wednesday that the find would aid the search for the missing link in man’s evolution from ape to human.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/231442.stm

[editor-surveyor]

Its already shown not to be Ape-man, as he has a thumb-foot.

[ColdWater]

Its already shown not to be Ape-man, as he has a thumb-foot.

How can you tell that from just one tooth?

[editor-surveyor]

By simply becoming an evolutionist.