Posted on 09/18/2009 4:09:29 PM PDT by GoldStandard
Edited on 09/18/2009 4:48:36 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Federal Judge Clay Land may have made good on his threat of sanctions against a lawyer for an army officer fighting deployment on the claim that President Barack Obama was not born in this country. In an order today Judge Land denied a motion for a Stay of Deployment for Captain Connie Rhodes, filed by Attorney Orly Taitz yesterday. The motion was filed after Judge Land threatened sanctions and dismissed the complaint calling it frivolous. Taitz has 14 days to show why a $10,000 penalty as a sanction should not be imposed against her. We tried reaching Taitz. She has not returned our calls.
In a bizarre twist, News 3 has received a copy of a letter to Judge Clay Land, written by the officer in this case, Captain Connie Rhodes. In it she writes she is shipping out to Iraq and asks the Judge to withdraw the Motion to Stay the Deployment. She denies authorizing Taitz to file on her behalf.
Related: Rhodes v MacDonald
This certainly complicates things.
On the (still unconfirmed but likely) news that Orly’s client has withdrawn from the case, see:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2343231/posts
This was posted by an apparent troll, and may be viewed with suspicion, but it also may be true.
This complicates things. But it still seems to me that if the judge tries to fine Orly, that opens the door for her to appeal and keep the issue open. Although if the original party has decided not to go further, that may leave the issue “moot,” I’m afraid. Instead of an appeals court suggesting that Obama should cough up his birth certificate, they might at best just strike down the fine.
We’ll see.
OK, and see #2.
Is that regarding the original complaint? In other words O'Rly used her name without authorization? Or is this about the withdrawal?
Was Orly Taitz set up? Just wondering.
If the client doesn't want to appeal, Orly cannot appeal the decision dismissing the case. If she is sanctioned, she can appeal the sanction, but remember that she is being threatened with sanctions not for filing the original case, but only for filing the motion to reconsider. So the only issue on appeal would be whether the motion for reconsideration is sanctionable. Since she threw in gratuitous insults of Judge Land (including accusing him of treason!), I wouldn't bet on the sanctions order being reversed.
“Clay Land”? Gotta be an alias.
Set up by whom?
Land is a *RAT-APPOINTED* far left activist judge *SHILLING* for 0bambi. Who *CARES* what he thinks?
Too bad. This looked very promising just this morning. And now, this.
More like Land was appointed by George W. Bush.
he is a conservative Republican appointed by George W. Bush.
I think Bush appointed this judge.
The main character is a relatively unknown inexperienced, undocumented, illegal alien, who is a known Marxist/Socialist, an associate of extreme left radials with violent backgrounds, and a twenty year patron of an anti-US black power church. He is elected to the White House with the overt aid of a compliant media, blatant appeals to black and white racists for support, and unprecedented hundreds of millions in mysterious and questionable financial backing from unidentifiable foreign and domestic sources.
Once elected President, while the character openly works to destroy the USA economy, culture and Constitution, he is protected and supported by majorities in the US Senate, the House of Representatives, the Supreme Court, the local and appellate courts, the wealthiest people in the financial industry and 95% of the established media.
Efforts of the working class and middle class to expose and oppose the fraud and to prevent further destruction of the nation are met with disdain and active opposition of the government, the established power structure, the wealthy elitists and the ruling classes and the media. Critics of the usurper are ridiculed, labeled as racists and potential terrorists, and the recipients of thinly veiled government threats.
The book proposal would have been turned down as implausible, too far fetched, and needlessly provocative.
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Land was appointed by George W. Bush.
But then you were informed of this two days ago.
Did you forget or do you truly believe that GWB was a democrat?
I may be incorrect, but I recall seeing on these threads that he was a Bush appointed Republican. Or do I have him confused with the California judge?
“Set up by whom?”
I might be a little irritable. It’s not been a good day, so I’ll just say...That’s what I am asking. It seems to me that mine was an all encompassing question that could be either answered or not.
No you don't. The California judge, Carter, is a Clinton appointee. But he's also a former Marine officer who got a bronze star and purple heart at Khe Shah.
coffee. all over my computer. yes rly.
This is about the CA case. Check out Orly’s page at http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/, scroll about 1/3 of the way down and read the blog post. I’d be interested in what yall think.
George Bush was no conservative, that’s for sure!
Thou shalt not dis the Community-Organizer-in-Chief!
I just read that post you just linked to.
(Thanks for that link by the way)
I would like to hear others views on the post as well.
I hate having to grasp at the little strings of hope people dangle regarding this issue.
90% of my pessimist brain doesn’t want to even begin to hope that there might be some truth to the post.
We have been burned so many times in the past.
But a small piece of my heart felt good after reading it.
As always, we shall see. October will be here soon.
| Hmmm... Updated over at I.O.: Updating, updating Today’s letter to Judge Land, by plaintiff Cpt. Connie M. Rhodes, MD: [Edit: or is it? Based on a tip, check out the signature line. Now, someone may sign her name and underline it, as I regarded it, in passing, but it appears to be a pre-printed line. That in turn appears to make the signature a photocopy, which appears to make the letter appear to be a forgery. Yet more drama and disruption. Does someone have something to hide?] http://static.mgnetwork.com/rbl/pdf/birther_letter.pdf Plus, see Judge Land’s orders and the reasons for his punitive measures against Dr. Taitz: http://static.mgnetwork.com/rbl/pdf/rhodes_macdonald_order.pdf The source for this story is WRBL TV in Columbia, Georgia: “$10,000 Sanction Proposed Against ‘Birther’ Lawyer.” They have been asked about this letter and they are trying to track it down. More to come. Hmmm ... you don't think its possible some Obot went to the OfficeMax in Columbus, GA, to fax a letter into the judge, and then the judge - who editorializes more in his orders than Maureen Dowd does in her columns - acted on the letter without checking to see if Capt Rhodes really sent it, do you?
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Brilliant.
I suspect that the concluding chapters of this tale will prove to be even more implausible, far fetched, and needlessly provocative!
That's not the point.
The point is that Sir Valentino posted two days ago on the thread I linked to in post #18 that Judge Land was a Clinton appointee, something that is not only wrong but can be quickly verified.
As it turns out, Judge Land, a former Republican State Senator from Georgia with a reputation as a solid conservative was appointed by George W. Bush and confirmed by Senate on 21, Sept. 2001, a time, you may recall, when GWB enjoyed enormous political capital to do as he wished.
After being set straight by multiple posters on the previous thread, Sir Valentino continues to disseminate incorrect information, a strategy that is not unusual among Birthers and one reason why so many of us cannot take them seriously. Intentionally spreading misinterpretations, imaginings, wishes, blatantly incorrect information, and outright fabrications as absolute fact and then repeating them over and over again until everyone believes them and no one questions them is a common tactic employed by Birthers on these many threads.
The truth is that the judge is correct about the Army officer’s refusal to deploy.
If nothing else, this is an ongoing war, authorized by Congress long before Obama took over. Besides that, her orders do not come from the president, but from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, an officer who has separately been approved by the US Senate.
At this point, even if she objected to Obama, her only evidence puts that objection at the level of personal philosophy, which doesn’t pass muster as an acceptable reason for refusing a lawful order in the manual of courts martial.
It sounds, though, like she might have seen the light. Besides, you don’t leave your mates in the breach when they go off to war.
I have applauded Dr. Taitz’ efforts to get the information on POTUS Obama made public so the congress would have to act. However, if she did indeed proceed on the CPT Rhodes case without CPT Rhodes permission...she should be sanctioned.....but NOT for filing “frivolous” suits...but for acting unprofessionally in this situation.
I understand Dr. Taitz’ exasperation....I feel it as well. However, maybe it is time she takes a few deep breaths as she steps back for awhile. I personnally think the concept behind her pursuit of the truth on POTUS Obama is correct, but I think her passion is getting the better of her professional judgement. I commend her for her pursuit; I believe her motives to be pure, but she is rapidly losing credibility by “show boating.” I’m concerned about her mental state. I am not saying she is wrong about POTUS Obama....just that I must concede she is starting to act irrational. Even though most in the legal profession disgust me with their IMO foolish procedures that hamper true pursuit of justice....it is their system and to continue to fight against it is not rational. She needs to be more professional in her deportment and procedures.
Well, I saw that too earlier today. A possible cut and paste job on the signature....
| THIS has people going for a short time in July, too, until we de-bunked it here on FR: (it's hard sometimes to know what to believe is real or not in the digital age)
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I’m not sure about that. Gates was confirmed by congress, but he was appointed by Obama, who is the dubious commander-in-chief.
It’s an unprecedented situation in US law. But International Laws of War for a thousand years are based on St. Paul’s statement: “Obey the Powers that be, because the Powers that be are from God.” Usually that phrase was translated as “obey the magistrates” or “obey the duly constituted authorities,” whether Emperor, King, Duke, or President.
But theologians and legal philosophers all agree that the legitimacy of a soldier derives from the legitimacy of the magistrate.
I’m not talking about “international law” as it is made in the Hague. I’m talking about accepted international law and Natural Law as it was recognized by the Founding Fathers.
But this is, certainly, unprecedented in America, since we have not previously suffered from a POTUS of questionable legitimacy or a president who might justly be called a tyrant.
I’m not sure about that. Gates was confirmed by congress, but he was appointed by Obama, who is the dubious commander-in-chief.
It’s an unprecedented situation in US law. But International Laws of War for a thousand years are based on St. Paul’s statement: “Obey the Powers that be, because the Powers that be are from God.” Usually that phrase was translated as “obey the magistrates” or “obey the duly constituted authorities,” whether Emperor, King, Duke, or President.
But theologians and legal philosophers all agree that the legitimacy of a soldier derives from the legitimacy of the magistrate.
I’m not talking about “international law” as it is made in the Hague. I’m talking about accepted international law and Natural Law as it was recognized by the Founding Fathers.
But this is, certainly, unprecedented in America, since we have not previously suffered from a POTUS of questionable legitimacy or a president who might justly be called a tyrant.
Land is a *RAT-APPOINTED* far left activist judge *SHILLING* for 0bambi. Who *CARES* what he thinks?
Clay Land, a Columbus Republican, was elected to the Senate from west Georgia’s 16th District (which includes north Columbus, Harris, Talbot and Marion counties) in 1994.
Land is a member of the influential Appropriations and Judiciary Committees. He also serves on the Natural Resources and Reapportionment committees. He has also served as a member of the Georgia Future Communities Commission, the Senate Structured Sentencing Commission, the Child Support Review Commission, the Election Code Revision Committee, the Senate Study Committee on Privatization of Governmental Services, the Senate Study Committee on Foster Care and Adoption, and as chairman of the Senate Study Committee on Civil Justice Reform. Land has been recognized for his legislative contributions by various organizations, including the Outstanding Legislator Award from the Georgia Council on Aging, a Legislative Appreciation Award from the Georgia Municipal Association, and the Legislative Award from the Georgia Gerontology Society.
Land has sponsored a wide variety of legislation which has been enacted into law, including the 1996 law authorizing hefty fines against the City of Atlanta for its pollution of the Chattahoochee River, landmark education reform legislation expanding Georgia’s charter school law, amendment of the expert affidavit statute, and privacy protection legislation restricting access to motor vehicle accident reports by ambulance chasing lawyers.
During the current term of the General Assembly, Land is the primary sponsor of several significant pieces of proposed legislation, including “The Early Hope Scholarship Act,” which would provide scholarships to low income students attending chronically failing schools, Senate Bill 11, which would require violent felons to serve a minimum of 90% of their sentences before being eligible for parole; and The Wildlife Heritage Fund Act, which would help preserve Georgia’s natural resources.
Before his election to the Senate, Land served on the Columbus City Council from 1993-1994.
Born March 24, 1960, Land grew up in Columbus. He graduated cum laude with a BBA and a law degree from the University of Georgia. A practicing attorney, he is a partner in the Columbus law firm of Buchanan & Land, LLP.
Active in professional and community affairs, Land has served as president of Leadership Columbus, chairman of the Georgia Indigent Defense Council, trustee of the Georgia Bar Foundation, and a member of the boards of several community organizations. Land has been recognized for his community involvement, having received the J. R. Allen Outstanding Columbus Young Person Award for 1995 and the H. Sol Clark Pro Bono Award from the State Bar of Georgia in 1993. He is also a Leadership Georgia graduate.
Land and his wife, Shannon, are the parents of three children—Katherine, Brooks and Clay, Jr. They are members of First Baptist Church of Columbus. December 1999 .
Not surprised
Congress is in charge of the REGULATION of the Army.
If they approve a CJCS, then his orders have the force of Congressional regulation behind them regardless of who is president.
The CJCS issues deployment orders.
What professional judgment? Looks like someone at least gave the client some good legal advice late in the game. Probably an on-base civilian attorney adviser.
President Bush didn’t *APPOINT* judges, he *NOMINATED* them. In September 2001, when Land was *CONFIRMED*, the Senate was *CONTROLLED* by the Dems. You can *TALK* all you *WANT* about President Bush, but the *FACT* is the Dems *CHOSE* the judges at that time.
That's a crock and you know it. Congress was doing Bush's bidding in Sept. of 2001.
Please try harder next time.
Sad to say the rest of the fable was never written.
Unable to find a publisher the fledgling author became broken and depressed. He suffered increasingly from acute paranoia and soon thereafter committed suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head three tmes with a single action Russian revolver.
His badly deteriorated remains were eventually discovered in a remote section of Fort Marcy Park by a former FBI agent who is now employed as a top security consultant by Goldman Sachs.
The unfinished manuscript has never been found.
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I am trying to check Orly’s site, but it’s giving me a “SITE NOT FOUND error message (?)
Since I place the most credibility on you two members, did Sinclair’s letter get debunked ? and is this Rhodes complaint a hoax also...or is it too early to tell ?
I cannot imagine Orly filing an appeal without clearing it with her client, so a hoax wouldn’t surprise me.
Thx so much.
She should just pay the $10,000 and move on. Orly has a much better chance with justice Carter. Carter seems like a reasonable man, who puts his politics aside.
I don’t believe any of this stuff about Orly. I’ll wait for Orly to address it and our day in court. The rest is all speculation,
And used Vulcan mind control to get GWB to nominate them. Canny, that.
Curiously, the Constitution says that the President shall nominate and appoint.
Carter seems like a reasonable man, who puts his politics aside.
Will Judge Carter seem like a reasonable man if or when he dismissed the suit?
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