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Guess What? Unemployment's Really at 16.3 Percent
Fox News ^ | Aug 7 2009 | John Lott

Posted on 08/08/2009 6:41:41 PM PDT by Daffynition

How is it possible for the unemployment rate to essentially remain unchanged when 247,000 jobs have been lost? Because the number of people who gave up and stopped looking for work rose dramatically.

The announcement today that the unemployment rate declined slightly to 9.4 percent in July while only 247,000 additional jobs were lost has been greeted as good news. The change in the unemployment rate puts the rate at what it was in May. Yet, even a rough look at the numbers indicates that the true unemployment rate has been getting significantly worse over the last few months.

How is it possible for the unemployment rate to essentially remain unchanged when 247,000 jobs have been lost? The reason is simple -- the number of people who stopped looking for work rose dramatically. Six hundred thirty-seven thousand additional people no longer consider themselves looking for work. This is by far the largest drop in the number of people who consider themselves in the labor force during the last year. -- It is almost twice the 358,000 increase in the people who left the labor force during June and almost four times the average monthly increase of 167,333 over the last year. Jobs are sufficiently scarce and the prospects of people finding them at wages that they are willing to work for so low that many individuals don't think that it is worth their time to even look for a job. [snip]

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; layoffs; third100days; unemployment
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1 posted on 08/08/2009 6:41:41 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

They’ll start telling the truth when the welfare funds start drying up. Either that, or just suppress the pix of people starving...


2 posted on 08/08/2009 6:44:32 PM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property)
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Well, yea. I’m no math genius, but even I could figure that one out. But, the WH says break out the champagne! Happy Days are here again!!


3 posted on 08/08/2009 6:45:20 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: Regulator

Income tax returns are going to be soft .... how are they going to spin that?


4 posted on 08/08/2009 6:46:16 PM PDT by Daffynition ("...... we are about to be czarred and fettered." ~ alterum ictum faciam.)
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To: Daffynition

If we include the normally counted number of unemployed as well as those who have recently given up looking for work and those who have taken a part-time low paying job because they can’t find full-time work, the implication is that the unemployment rate for July would be at 16.3 percent These discouraged workers will again look for work once the economy starts to improve, but this 6.9 percentage point gap between publicly discussed unemployment rate and these discouraged workers is unusually large.

From the article.


5 posted on 08/08/2009 6:49:02 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Live free or die.)
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To: Daffynition

LOL the official numbers in my county are over 16%. I hate to think what the real numbers are.


6 posted on 08/08/2009 6:50:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Daffynition

What about all those Americans who have just given up trying to find a job in the new Communist America?


7 posted on 08/08/2009 6:51:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Proud member of "The Angry Mob" Est. April 19, 1775)
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To: Daffynition
Government is just one big ponzi scheme.
8 posted on 08/08/2009 6:54:14 PM PDT by taxtruth (MY GOVERNMENT THINKS I"M IN A MOB)
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To: Jet Jaguar
those who have recently given up looking for work

Wouldn't they already be included in the original unemployment figure?

9 posted on 08/08/2009 6:54:22 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who's your Long Legged MacDaddy?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Not the way these guys cook the books.


10 posted on 08/08/2009 6:58:05 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: Daffynition

It will be spun that it is clear tax cuts don’t work. We need to suck more productivity from the system to get it kick started.


11 posted on 08/08/2009 6:58:52 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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To: Daffynition

And we lost 247,000 jobs last month! I don’t care how they spin it - that’s horrible.

HOw many millions of jobs have been lost since Congress was taken over by the Marxists? And since Obama took office?

And THOSE are the numbers that really matter.

My heart goes out to all who have lost their jobs. I wish some would post here on FR and let us know how things are going.


12 posted on 08/08/2009 6:58:57 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: Daffynition
Oh, no. Obama will claim his socialism has cured all our ills and we need more government control and more socialism to make us well again. He will continue to push how HIS policies have FIXED what Bush caused and how wonderful he is. His lap dogs in the MSM will praise the messiah for his curing all our ills and how wonderful he and socialism are.
13 posted on 08/08/2009 7:02:10 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (SUPPORT THE TROOPS!!! VOTE AGAINST DIMOCRATS!!!!!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

They were, but they are now longer looking.
So, the Gov’t does not count them.
They are not working and not looking.
But, they are not employed. (they were)


14 posted on 08/08/2009 7:03:29 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Live free or die.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Occasionally I wander over to Walter William's site ShadowStats

It usually depresses me ... but this is the type of analysis and reporting we should be getting from the lamestream. All administrations have defined and re-defined the terms.

15 posted on 08/08/2009 7:04:30 PM PDT by Daffynition ("...... we are about to be czarred and fettered." ~ alterum ictum faciam.)
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To: Daffynition
When Bush had record low unemployment, the media still found a way to call it bad news.

When Obama has record high unemployment, the media finds a way to call it good news.

-PJ

16 posted on 08/08/2009 7:04:56 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

My wife would be one of those no longer looking. She got laid off as a secretary for a local company. I got a promotion at nearly the same time.

My promotion and pay raise made up for the loss of income in OUR household.

But, she is no longer a taxable worker. My taxes have gone up slightly with the promotion. But, not nearly as much to match the loss to the Gov’t as she pays no income tax now.


17 posted on 08/08/2009 7:10:10 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Live free or die.)
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To: Daffynition

I agree.

With the current standard applied to 1929, I am curious what the unemployment would have been.


18 posted on 08/08/2009 7:12:06 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Live free or die.)
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To: cripplecreek

>>LOL the official numbers in my county are over 16%. I hate to think what the real numbers are.<<

That’s what I was thinking.
What are the real numbers in MI all around.


19 posted on 08/08/2009 7:18:25 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

We must be hovering in the 30% range here in Jackson county.


20 posted on 08/08/2009 7:20:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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