Posted on 07/15/2009 5:25:18 PM PDT by kellynla
Lou Dobbs reported tonight that the Federal Election Commission does not require any proof of citizenship to run for Presidency.
HUH????
Get ready for Arnold..
All it takes is one state that requires it then based on that assumption right? If say the state of California or Texas were to require it wouldn’t that forfeit all of Obama’s votes in that state at least?
There's the small matter of the Qualifications for the Office in the Constitution that might be burdensome, though (Natural Born Citizen of the United States).
Here that Ahhhnold? Hey, the constitution is just a collection of suggestions anyway.
What about the Constitution?
It is NOT A STATE ISSUE....IT IS A FEDERAL ISSUE.
In Rhode Island, you only need to sign a form saying you are “constitutionally eligible”.
The Constitution requires it.
Period.
The states can’t enact Jim Crow laws, either.
Regarding this, I am starting to wonder if the MSM is really picking up interest. I know the pinheads at MSNBC and Newsweek will never give it the light of day, but it is being DISCUSSED. That is more than it has ever gotten before.
IIRC, there was a demand for administrative action put to the FEC, and this same result was announced by them way back when (Sept/Oct?).
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The “state by state” provision has to do with ballot access. Voters vote for electors, state by state, and electors are “party” entities.
This is a federal issue, not a states’ issue.
According to Dobbs, proof to run for House, Senate and the Presidency is left up the states and every state is different. And in IL proof of citizenship is not required.
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If this is true, which I doubt, because it makes no sense, then WHO IS BREAKING THE LAW? (besides Obama). Who does a candidate for the presidency file their papers with??? A state? Or the Federal government?? Something very fishy here.
States control ballot access and always have. States have thrown presidential candidates off the ballot, too.
What is going on? Didn’t Lou Dobbs have something about Cook yesterday. Is it because someone in the military took a stand that they are starting to report or is it something else?
“The Constitution requires it.”
we all know that...the POINT is that states and the FEC
are NOT requiring proof!
I don’t think Ahnold has done a good a job as Sarah.
She has many accomplishments under her belt and
is leaving Alaska better then she found it.
LOL!
Lou needs to explain how a candidate can abide by the Constitutional requirement to be a natural born citizen without providing documentation confirming he or she is a natural born citizenship.
Back in 1880 Chester Arthur was running as James Garfield’s running mate. There were rumors that he wasn’t really born in Vermont but rather in Canada or even Ireland.
No proof was ever found of this so the whole matter went away.
When Garfield was assassinated, he became president but remains the last sitting president to run for his own parties nomination and lose it.
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Not after the Electoral College has voted and Congress has set its seal on the vote by accepting it.
Impeachment is the only constitutional way to get him out now.
There is no federal requirement, because the executive branch of the federal government is not charged with validating the election process... THE LEGISLATURE IS!!!!
DUH!
IDIOTS!
“This is a federal issue, not a states’ issue.”
again...we all know that the POINT is that the FEC & states are NOT requiring PROOF!
but it is being DISCUSSED. That is more than it has ever gotten before.
Yeah that’s true.
I can’t figure out if Lou is saying he found a possible loop hole as to why this would explain a suspected non-citizen would be allowed to run, OR is he saying there’s no need to look into this matter any further?
Congress is charged to rule on the validity of the votes of the Electoral College. They were the body that could have ruled the votes for Obama invalid on the basis of his not being a natural born citizen.
They didn’t.
I know a guy named Noe who would like to be Governor, he is a nice and meek dude. Got his greencard a few monts back... I think he should run.. maybe as a Democrat?
Basically, with the party. The party, in turn, obtains ballot access in the state. Voters vote for ELECTORS, not for president and VP.
Eldridge Cleaver was denied ballot access in Cali, in 1968, b/c he wasn't 35 years old.
Thats true, and is how Obama skated through the system with out being Vetted.
HUH????
Get ready for Arnold..
Like Hell!
My personal belief is that this is the best course of action. No one is going to roll-back what's already been done. But, with the appropriate legislation, it would make things much more difficult for Obama in the next election.
You'd have to pass legislation in an electorally rich state, and one that wouldn't be a sure thing for the Republicans. A state like Ohio or Florida would be great.
Now he may just go ahead and produce the proof he needs—why wouldn’t a man of his means be able to achieve this—and claim that he was aware of these things all along and wanted to teach us all a needed lesson.
And...we’ll all have been had...again!
Shades of potus Arthur.
That isn’t the point. Ballot access is controlled by the states under the federal system.
Urkle will have to be removed by impeachment if the Supreme Court finds him ineligible. Or he could serve from jail if it refuses to convict him.
Obama and his droids are starting to feel the heat. This issue is catching fire and it’s a fire that will ignite our nation.
Yeah, but the poor beat down bloated slob applying for a job at Chicken Licken, must provide proof he is in the country legally, must produce his Social Security Number, his drivers license number, his previous work history, and submit to intrusive drug testing..
Illegals applying for the same job, just need to start working, and say Si, at which point they are provided company benefits consisting of two 10 minutes breaks per day.
I see it as states not having residency/qualification guidelines because it’s outlined in the Constitution. Why should they?
The Constitution trumps all. If a person doesn’t qualify under the Constitution, then they aren’t qualified.
“if the MSM...”
They and the DNC KNOW. They know he’s not eligible and are complicit. A person could legitimately say they should be jailed, at the very least. Deported. Assets confiscated.
No, wait, The Candy Man is already in office.
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I seriously doubt he hered it.
There is no federal law that defines the term “Natural Born Citizen” either. The Supreme Court has not established precedent on who qualifies as being “natural born.”
Several cases testing the definition with regard to Obama went to conference at the Supreme Court and thus far, all have been denied “cert.” Meaning the Justices did not accept any of the cases for a hearing before the full Court.
It takes four justices to agree to “grant cert” or agree to hear a case.
>>> Impeachment is the only constitutional way to get him out now.
You cannot Impeach an illegitimate president, because the legislature is responsible for putting him there!
It would be like Suing yourself for screwing up!
The Judicial Branch must declare him illegitimate and order actions by the executive branch (under the president) to have him removed.
Somebody needs to tell commie Roger Calero this, he's been tossed off the ballot for being born in Nicaragua, most recently for the 2008 Presidential election.
But, wasn't it the California Secretary of State that denied him a spot on the ballot, and not the party - which if I remember correctly was some strange, unheard of, third party.
So an illegal alien could run for President?
Except NO ONE is demanding to see the proof of the qualifications. It is the supreme law of the land, with ZERO enforcement at this time.
Is this like not being on the guest list for an exclusive party at a nightclub, but the bouncer (the state) thinks you are cute so he opens the velvet rope for you to get in??
> we all know that...the POINT is that states and the FEC
> are NOT requiring proof!
Then they are in violation of the Law and the management needs to be arrested and brought to trial.
Meanwhile, the President must be compelled to show that he meets the minimum Constitutional requirements, age and nation of birth. If he can’t or won’t, he can’t serve.
Of course, getting the touchy-feely jerks running the government to actually obey the Law is an exercise in futility.
In that case, we are no longer a Nation of Laws, we are no longer a Republic, but rather a mob-rule Democracy. The Constitution is rendered de facto null and void, and the Laws are whatever the polls say they are, subject to change with the vicissitudes of the culture, if that’s what you can call it.
Sure you could. He ran for President under fraudulant circumstances. Fraud is certainly a "High Crime or Misdemeanor".
I've read the USC a few times in my life. The only provision for removing a sitting president is impeachment in the House, conviction in the Senate.
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