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'Sluggish' jet streams linked to quiet Sun
physicsworld.com ^ | Jun 18, 2009 | Jon Cartwright

Posted on 06/19/2009 10:12:13 PM PDT by neverdem

More than just a glowing ball
Inside the sun: more than just a glowing ball

The unusually long quiet period of the Sun’s present activity may be due to the motion of “sluggish” jet streams beneath the solar surface, according to scientists at the National Solar Observatory (NSO) in Arizona, US.

The scientists’ observations, which show an east–west jet stream has taken a year longer to migrate south by 10° than in the previous solar cycle, also indicate that the sun is moving into its next cycle.

“We need to continue these observations for many, many more years to fully understand what is going on,” said NSO researcher Frank Hill yesterday at a meeting of the solar-physics division of the American Astronomical Society in Boulder, Colorado, adding: “We cannot at this point definitively say [the jet stream] is a real cause, but I think it is quite clear that it is associated.”

Charting activity

It is important to be able to forecast the Sun’s activity because it governs the space “weather” that surrounds Earth. During high solar activity, satellites and astronauts run the risk of being showered with lethal radiation.

Scientists have long known that the activity rises and falls in cycles that are roughly 11 years long. Having charted the number of sunspots, solar flares and interplanetary storms, they know that we are presently in a minimum or “quiet period” of activity towards the end of cycle 23. But this quiet period has already gone on for a year longer than scientists had anticipated, which raises the questions of what is causing the delay — and when we can expect cycle 24?

Hill, together with Rachel Howe, who is also at the NSO, employed two primary instruments in a relatively new science called helioseismology that traces sound waves to reveal conditions in the Sun’s interior. The first instrument, known as the Global Oscillation Network Group, or GONG, is a collection of six observatories located around the globe that can make 24–hour solar observations. The second, which is aboard NASA and the ESA’s Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) spacecraft and which is called the Michelson Doppler Imager, or MDI, measures movement in the Sun’s outer layer.

Slow stream

The sound waves recorded by both GONG and the MDI enabled the researchers to track an east–west jet stream several thousand kilometres beneath the Sun’s surface. Such jet streams are generated at the poles every 11 years in accordance with the solar cycle, and gradually — over about 17 years — migrate towards the equator. When they reach a latitude of 22°, the jet streams coincide with the generation of new sunspots, and a new solar cycle begins.

Hill and Howe found that the present east–west jet stream has taken an extra year to cover the past 10° latitude, although it is now reaching 22°. The researchers inferred from this that the jet stream must be linked to — and possibly causes — the onset of solar cycles, and that therefore that the next cycle will soon begin.

“What we believe it means for the coming cycle — and I’m speculating a bit here, I would say — is that it will not be as strong as the previous one,” continued Hill at the Boulder meeting. “That is an active topic of discussion within the solar-physics community.”

Dean Pesnell of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center said in a press statement that the study finds another piece in the solar-activity puzzle. “It shows how flows inside the Sun are related to the creation of solar activity and how the timing of the solar cycle might be produced,” he added. “None of the forecasting research groups predicted the current long extended delay in the new cycle. There is a lot more to learn in order to understand how the Sun creates magnetic fields.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; helioseismology; physics; solaractivity; solarcycle; sunspots

1 posted on 06/19/2009 10:12:14 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
So they monitored the latitude of the jet, and its change in latitude over time. But, did they monitor the actual velocity of the jet ? Perhaps the jets velocity determines its migration speed. If that is true, the velocity may have more of a bearing on solar sunspot activity. Ergo...


2 posted on 06/19/2009 10:18:48 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: neverdem

are they trying to say the sun affects the weather? this blasphemy cannot stand!


3 posted on 06/19/2009 10:22:49 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: CzarNicky

It also effects the wind patterns, so there goes all of those clean energy wind farms.


4 posted on 06/19/2009 10:26:58 PM PDT by Wooly
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To: neverdem
The sun is quieter than it's been since 1928.

Must be global warming crap, huh?

5 posted on 06/19/2009 10:43:36 PM PDT by blam
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To: justa-hairyape

Thanks for the pic!


6 posted on 06/19/2009 10:51:51 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

What IS the sun? I mean, WHY is it a ball of gas? How did that come about? Is there a solid center? How can a ball of gas retain a ball shape? How did the sun start?

Does anyone in the scientific community know the answers to these questions?


7 posted on 06/19/2009 10:58:54 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: neverdem
That is the current sun. Very low activity. Gets big bright spots all over the sphere when it gets excited. Kinda like a negative image of dark sunspots. Very interesting. Extreme Ultraviolet Telescope EIT image.
8 posted on 06/19/2009 11:01:07 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Beowulf9

I thought it was made of green cheese, but I’m becoming less certain all the time.


9 posted on 06/19/2009 11:03:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The University of Notre Dame's motto: "Kill our unborn children? YES WE CAN!")
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To: neverdem

This is at least the third high profile prediction in the last year that Cycle 24 is imminent.

Whoops, never mind.

The little black dot in the NW quadrant is a blown pixel, not a sunspot.

10 posted on 06/19/2009 11:19:13 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: neverdem

The Sun is going out. Maybe it will explode. I say, “Let’s panic!” ;-)


11 posted on 06/19/2009 11:27:22 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: Beowulf9

The sun and stars began as clumps of hydrogen gas (which in turn was generated in the creation event) whose own gravity squeezed them together tightly enough to start nuclear fusion processes that turn the hydrogen into helium and release lots of energy. If this keeps up long enough the hydrogen is depleted and the helium starts getting squeezed together into heavier elements — it will be an extremely long time before the sun starts doing this, if it ever does. A symmetric globe is what you get when there is no other significant force affecting the star. Stars that spin rapidly enough become squatty ellipse shapes.


12 posted on 06/19/2009 11:27:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (In only 19 weeks, 0 has enabled us to agree with the Taliban [his empty speechifying] - Iron Munro)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Hey, thank you. That’s very interesting material.


13 posted on 06/19/2009 11:40:45 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: CzarNicky

You’re right, we should have a Senate resolution denouncing the Sun.


14 posted on 06/19/2009 11:41:20 PM PDT by TheThinker (America doesn't have a president. It has a usurper.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Thanks for the feedback. What does EIT image mean?


15 posted on 06/20/2009 12:06:36 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Excerpted from EIT - The SOHO Extreme ultraviolet Imaging Telescope

The SOHO EIT is able to image the solar transition region and inner corona in four, selected bandpasses in the extreme ultraviolet (EUV):

Fe IX/X, 171 Å
Fe XII, 195 Å
Fe XV, 284 Å
He II, 304 Å

Using either full-disk or subfield images, the EIT can image active regions, filaments and prominences, coronal holes, coronal "bright points," polar plumes, and a variety of other solar features. The instrument was designed to be used in conjunction with other SOHO instruments, particularly the LASCO visible-light coronagraphs and the SUMER and CDS imaging spectrographs, as well as with ground-based instruments.

Excerpt end
Basically you are looking at narrow bands of very energetic electromagnetic radiation (light) emitted from the sun. Much more energetic then what our eyes can see. Regular UV burns the skin. They are looking at even more energetic UV light.

16 posted on 06/20/2009 1:54:31 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Now this is what some solar activity looks like through the EIT.

17 posted on 06/20/2009 2:04:31 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Here is a coronal mass ejection for you.

18 posted on 06/20/2009 2:07:29 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: neverdem

may be
cannot at this point definitively say
inferred from this
might be
There is a lot more to learn

Translation:

We don’t have a freakin’ clue but we need to come up with something so the government keeps sending us bushels of money.


19 posted on 06/20/2009 3:04:50 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BBell; ...
Thanks neverdem.
 
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20 posted on 06/20/2009 3:15:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Beowulf9
"Does anyone in the scientific community know the answers to these questions?"

Yes

21 posted on 06/20/2009 5:11:14 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Global Warming Theory is extremely robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it)
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To: zeestephen

I found three more sun spots, but when I scrolled down, they moved off the sun. They were monitor spots.


22 posted on 06/20/2009 5:22:14 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: zeestephen
"The little black dot in the NW quadrant is a blown pixel, not a sunspot."

You should have posted this at the top of the picture. I spent five minutes trying to clean it off my screen.

And what about the one in the NE corner? Oh, oops. That was on my screen. [TheOldLady blushes, slinks away]

23 posted on 06/20/2009 6:38:39 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Beowulf9
What IS the sun? I mean, WHY is it a ball of gas? How did that come about? Is there a solid center? How can a ball of gas retain a ball shape? How did the sun start?

'Does anyone in the scientific community know the answers to these questions?"

Yes. All of them. They're all part of basic science (physics).

24 posted on 06/20/2009 6:52:33 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: justa-hairyape

Fascinating, thanks for the link!


25 posted on 06/20/2009 12:11:44 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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