Posted on 05/11/2009 9:41:25 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's (R) camp is not happy with Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele's suggestion that base Republicans had a problem with the 2008 presidential candidate's Mormonism.
On Monday, Romney's camp responded to the comments Steele made Friday while guest-hosting a conservative radio show, comments a Romney spokesman said were ill-considered.
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Camp Romney fired off a quick response: "Sometimes when you shoot from the hip you miss the target. This is one of those times," Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom told The Hill.
After the Romney team expressed its displeasure, Steele offered an apology.
"Chairman Steele regrets the way his comments have been interpreted," RNC spokeswoman Gail Gitcho said. "Chairman Steele believes Mitt Romney is a respected and influential voice in the Republican Party and looks to his leadership and ideas to help move our party and our nation in the right direction."
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Its time Michael Steele and Mitt Romney got lost!
ROTFLMAO
I'm sure there will be a lenghty discussion on the other reason the base rejected Romney here. I can fully understand Romney's wanting to defend his faith, I'm not sure Steele's comments were terribly tactful, considering that he is the RNC Chairman, but they do seem to have the benefit of being true. Many people did have a problem with his faith. Sometimes when you shoot from the hip, you hit the target dead on, and it creates an even bigger dust-up.
Heh, yes this is just another of our funny political kooks. Nice to see the GOP is so united! (ha)...
If both of these so-called leaders disappeared overnight, we would be rejoicing...it’s just a shame that none of them actually understand their electorate yet. Oh well, time for another party...
This guy has to decide whether he wants to run a vital business (the RNC) or be an entertainment personality.
Since he has shown that he tends toward undisciplined running of the mouth.......coupled with the fact that he's not too bright, he'd be wise to get to get down to work in his RNC office and keep his lips buttoned.
There's no biz like Republican biz, Michael!
Leni
Support someone who puts fear into the left.
Well, being an effective communicator is a very imporant part of being a leader. The fact that he seems to get into trouble every time he opens his mouth is the real problem.
Steele seems to like appearing on off-beat radio talk shows....where it's easier for a less-than-effective communicator to slip up or get caught in traps. This isn't the first time Steele's been in trouble after a talk show.
Leni
You are correct. Steele was correct.
There was an element in the GOP base, namely some Christian conservatives, who regard Mormonism as something less than Christian in nature.
There’s a chain of Christian-oriented bookstores here in the Twin Cities and in one section of their stores, they do have some books in stock that take Mormonism to task as being an un-Christian religion.
To be sure, there were others issues (such as his change in his abortion stance and his health care plan in Mass) but all in all, I think it’s safe to say that a fair number of Christian conservatives were bothered by his religion.
What show was it? Bennett? He’s subbed on that quite a bit, to the extent I’ve figured it will soon be renamed the Substitute Show. It’s become a dreary squishy show no matter who does it.
They all consistently get it wrong! I guess that is what happens when you only discuss things within your own little clique!
I'm out.
Every time he opens his mouth he sticks his foot in it. When Haley Barber ran the RNC he only spoke about clear reforms Republicans wanted to offer voters in appropriate forums. He was a lot smarter and slicker than poor Mr. Steele who is more like a gossip page guy than a policy guy.
At the moment divisive baloney like this is just what we DON'T need.
Some of the Mormon haters may soon find themselves next door to Jihad Johnny, and really have problems to bitch about.
I'm nondenominational, got tired of listening to spin artists in general.
Romney is a RINO, his religion is irrelevant.
It is a fact that some Republicans rejected Romney because he was Mormon. I am an Evangelical Christian and I have heard some Evangelicals say that they would not vote for a Mormon.
I challenge that assertion every time I hear it. Invariably the individuals who say that are revealed to be biased against Mormons but unable to explain what a Mormon could do to damage the country.
On the other hand I have no use for Michael Steele or the recently rejected Republican Party under George W. Bush. I think Michael Steele is a jerk. he has been stepping in it since he became head of the RNC. The man is a moderate and basically hostile to conservatives. He is also clueless on Second Amendment issues.
In fact Republicans have earned their place in the wilderness. Unfortunately they took the rest of us with them.
That is because all of the Christian churches agree that it is not Christian, that is why Mormons have to be baptised as a Christian to join a Christian church.
You are naturally going to find that Christian book stores have books on the topic.
How come nobody ripped the last Rnc leader? Nobody even knows who it was. But they sure as heck jump on Steele. Just wonder why.
Can't you get it through your head that the real enemy is the secular, anti religion, anti God, Marxist, policies of the Democrat party. Many denominations and religions are represented in the conservative cause and the Republican party. We need unity, not the propagating of your hates.
I do not see pretentious, religious bigots as part of the conservative movement any more than the David Duke types are. They may have some of the same enemies as conservatives but their narrow mindedness only hurts the cause of intelligent conservatism. Better to let them wander alone in the wilderness of their own ignorance.
Christian book stores were mentioned in a way that was misleading, I merely pointed out that Christians that are aware of their churches description of Mormonism would know that their church does not recognize Mormonism as Christian and so some would look for that topic in Christian bookstores.
I will not ignore misleading falsehoods and allow them to continue to mislead just so that your candidate’s agenda is furthered.
As you know FR is officially a hostile environment to Mitt Romney, so don’t try to pretend different and play the, can’t we just get along act.
“Can’t you get it through your head that the real enemy is the secular, anti religion, anti God, Marxist, policies of the Democrat party. Many denominations and religions are represented in the conservative cause and the Republican party. We need unity, not the propagating of your hates.”
Hear ye, hear ye. You win the prize for best insight into what’s really going on among a certain segment of the general population as well as among a certain segment of Freeper Mormon haters. I’m surprised the whole gang of them hasn’t jumped on this thread yet. They tend to run in packs. Gives them more cover for their Mormon hatred, and they can bounce their comments off each other, all agreeing on the main topic, the slamming of Mitt Romney. Of course, I may be speaking too soon here. The night is young, and the thread still short.
Looks like hate to me.
This is stupid. Why are Republicans infighting over this stuff? Do they think that this is drawing attention to the party? It is! But only in ridcule. Why don’t they grow up?
I didn’t vote for Romney because he is a RINO. His religion had little to do for my decision. While I object to some of their tenets of faith, they are normally very moral people and wonderful citizens. I objected to his waffling on the issue of life and family issues, in which he is very much out of character for a Mormon.
Hey now. I like slamming Socialist RINOs.
As you know FR is officially a hostile environment to Mitt Romney, so don’t try to pretend different and play the, can’t we just get along act.
Does Steele think Rush Limbaugh is a Mormon?
Will it not be great fun watching these two cavort during the election years of 2010 and 2012, if Steele is still around then?
How dare Steele try to point out the truth.
Romney-the-Spoiler: "Deny me what I want, and my team will spoil the next election, too, just like the last one."
Amen.
The irony is delicious...
And in turn that makes Mitt's political “shortcomings” verbotten as well?
Hum...
Enlighten me.
What was said in post #20 that is hate?
It appears that no matter many times you say what you posted, ldsers will not accept it.
Very frustration.
More proof that the RNC has been taken over by Dimocrats. That's a Dimocrat apology.
Romney doing his job. Liberal-pretend-conservative causing problems in the party. It is intentional.
I haven’t said anything anti Mormon here but you are making personal attacks against me.
All your posting to me on this thread is personal and an attack.
You don’t post facts or truthful information, you just keep telling me to not post anything unless it serves the Romney campaign purposes.
You are always campaigning for your candidate but you do it in the most disgusting, personal and ineffective manner.
Wow, you should let me know when you are attacking me.
Your religious bigotry is so strong that you continue to lie, I didn’t post anything anti Mormon.
The Christian churches that people belong to all agree that Mormonism is not Christian, that is just a statement of fact. When a Catholic knows that the Catholic church says that Mormons are not members of a Christian church then she might want to read more about that, why should a Christian bookstore keep a good Catholic from the teachings of their church, to serve you instead?
If you want to attack the Catholic church then go ahead but don’t lie about me for knowing and posting their position.
I've been a Steele support for many years, but his lack of tact and awareness of what he's saying is disturbing to say the least. What possible good could come from the RNC chairman making such comments about a prominent Presidential candidate?
His job is to promote Republican principles, market them to the masses and help get Republicans elected. Leave the prognostication about why Romney lost in the primaries to Rush and Karl Rove. The current RNC chairman ought not to be publicly telling people his gut beliefs as to why someone like Romney lost.
If he wants to opine on why traitorous scum like Arlen Specter left the GOP, that's fine. But Michael should respectfully decline to engage in analysis on why loyal team players like Romney failed to win. Take a lesson from the sports world, Michael, and observe the way a classy guy like Joe Torre comments when asked about his players' failures. A good coach knows when to help heal the wounds and put the focus on the team and the future instead of getting sucked into a meaningless discussion about a player's past failures.
By the way, the liberals at Huffington Post read every last comment Freepers make about Steele. Know thy enemy...
Here's a choice quote Sam Stein at HuffPo got from a Freeper: "Steele is now calling out members of the Republican Congress who 'are getting it wrong,'" read one entry. "And he used a sports analogy -- if a player isn't doing his job the coach replaces him. This makes me want to take up drinking again."
I used a sports analogy too. Better start drinking again!
Steele finally did something that conservatives could support, to quote Jim Robinson 4/30/2009
"But Romney is a NO go. And I don't care who this socialist, abortionist, homosexualist, constitution trampling bastard picks for running mate. If Romney's in I'm out! G.O.P., R.I.P! "
I am burned out on michael steele
Romney's ring was not kissed: therefore - HATE!!
Joseph Smith stated that God told him: "they [other churches] were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:19).Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127).James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).
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