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MSNBC is in Big Trouble Without Bush to Bash
TownHall ^ | February 16, 2009 | Floyd and Mary Beth Brown

Posted on 02/16/2009 8:47:53 AM PST by dbz77

You won't hear executives at MSNBC chanting "yes we can." The network that they cobbled together as a TV version of the left-wing screed Air America is in the ratings dumper. Advertising dollars that have never been easy are getting thinner.

Since the inauguration of Barack Obama, Bill O'Reilly and the Fox News Channel have owned prime time. One night last week, for example, O'Reilly scored 3.5 million views compared to Olbermann's 1.4 million. Keith Olbermann may need to go back to sports. MSNBC is in big trouble without Bush to bash. Olbermann, Rachel Maddow and even Chris Matthews have filled their shows with nothing but anti-Bush hysteria for the last year. Now that their punching bag-in-chief has left Washington, they are lost. Bush hating came naturally for MSNBC; their commentators lampooned "Dubya" at every opportunity. In addition to attacking Bush, they enjoyed trumpeting bad news with the hopes that it would make President Bush look bad.

After Bush's farewell address, Matthews came on the air and bashed Bush as a stupid buffoon who hung out with jocks, and proceeded to laugh at the notion that he reads books. This from the same Chris Matthews who said he "got a feeling running up his leg while listening to Barack" and also said it was "his job to make sure this presidency (the Obama presidency) works." More people tuned into his diatribes that mocked the Bush presidency than the few who tune into his rants supporting Barack Obama.

Another commentator who loves to hate Bush, liberal activist Rachel Maddow, said on her show following the farewell address, "this is the start of the part where we don't have President Bush to kick around anymore. there can be no promise that we won't be compelled to try to keep on with the kicking around." She spoke with the caption, "goodbye and good riddance," situated behind her. She then proceeded to kick Bush around for ten minutes straight, blaming him for everything from Katrina, 9/11, the existence of Hamas, the recession, and "two worthless wars". She had practically filled her show with anti-Bush rants and guests. After January 20, she has struggled to find new material.

But we give her credit for attacking Obama, albeit from the left. She is a critic of the reluctance of the Obama administration to prosecute President Bush and Vice President Cheney and other officials for so-called "war crimes" related to interrogation tactics used on terrorists. She is giving relentless coverage to left-wingers' calls for a Soviet-style inquisition.

Media bias is not something unique to MSNBC, they just take it to a whole new level. As the balance of the left-stream media gushes over how much Obama works out, the same media complained about Bush's "weird obsession" with exercise. While they went gaga for Obama's inauguration, the same correspondents complained about how much Bush spent on his more modest 2004 event. While the media were slamming Sarah Palin, they ignored Barack's propensity for gaffes including "57 states" and Afghani-Iraqi translators. While the media drilled Republicans for a "culture of corruption," they give Eric Holder, Tim Geithner, Bill Richardson, and Hilda Solis a free pass, saying they made honest mistakes.

MSNBC could look on the Obama administration with an eye of skepticism and provide needed details about his Cabinet picks and their corrupt and shady dealings. They could help Obama succeed by acting as a watchdog to keep him from going astray; instead they seemed poised to help him "succeed" by acting as his lapdog and propaganda office.

If MSNBC and the rest of the left-stream media continue to attack George Bush and the Republicans, even though neither are in control of anything, their attacks will sound even more insipid. Partisan propaganda is putting the media on the path to irrelevance. They could start a renaissance by serving as a less biased source that reports what is actually occurring. Just check out how many times ABC's Jake Tapper was viewed on Youtube for challenging Robert Gibbs on administration ethics.

Americans are not stupid; they know FOXNEWS is more balanced. O'Reilly talks to Susan Estrich, Al Sharpton and other leftists brave enough to face him. We searched for similar balance on MSNBC and find none.

MSNBC could drastically improve their ratings performance by exposing all of the pork in the stimulus bill, the negative side-effects of increasing healthcare, environmental regulation and big-city political machine corruption. MSNBC could continue rebuilding legitimacy by exposing the corruption of labor unions. MSNBC hosts love to bash big business, fine, but why not hold big labor accountable and shine some light in their direction. Just a clear and simple examination of how Obama's stimulus-policy money will be spent would increase their credibility.

Being students of the media, we won't hold our breath. We suppose they will continue attacking Bush and praising Obama, until their viewers are all gone. NBC executives are doing the shareholders of General Electric a disservice if they don't start changing this programming to secure a larger audience.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bds; bho44; floydbrown; liberalmedia; marybethbrown; media; msnbc

1 posted on 02/16/2009 8:47:54 AM PST by dbz77
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To: dbz77

Just as I predicted. Mathews is actually picking on democrats, but still rooting for them


2 posted on 02/16/2009 8:50:36 AM PST by sickoflibs (Keynesian Economics : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL!")
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While I despise Olbermann, isn’t that rating still a LOT higher than MSNBC got even 4 years ago?


3 posted on 02/16/2009 8:51:07 AM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: Crimson Elephant

Before, a show on MSNBC would draw 500-700,000. Except for King, is he still alive, would draw right at a million viewers.


4 posted on 02/16/2009 8:53:02 AM PST by Tarpon (If you don't stand on principle, you stand for nothing at all.)
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To: All

Any respect I had left for MSNBC went down the toilet after their behavior during the election.

Their only saving grace is Joe Scarbourough who is not afraid to tell it like it is.

Keith Obermann is a joke. What a tool.


5 posted on 02/16/2009 8:55:34 AM PST by excalibur1701
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To: dbz77

I’m so far right, I think Mary Beth Brown is balance to her husband, Floyd!


6 posted on 02/16/2009 8:56:30 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: dbz77

Does anyone still watch MSNBC?


7 posted on 02/16/2009 8:57:39 AM PST by rllngrk33 (The RATs and Media are the enemy.)
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To: dbz77
Way to Skirt the Issue

So much for tarting her up...

8 posted on 02/16/2009 8:58:16 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: rllngrk33

I have to check and see if it’s still in my cable line-up.


9 posted on 02/16/2009 8:58:31 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: dbz77

I guess Rush Limbaugh won’t do as a surrogate. I hope they go under. It would serve the one trick ponies right.


10 posted on 02/16/2009 8:58:53 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: dbz77

By all means, send KO back to sports, just not pro football. How about sending him to cover grade school 4-square tournaments (if the kids are still allowed to play it, that is!) and tetherball?


11 posted on 02/16/2009 9:00:23 AM PST by Theresawithanh (Impeach Obama)
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To: rllngrk33
Does anyone still watch MSNBC?

I don't watch any cable news or alphabet channel news--not even FOX.

12 posted on 02/16/2009 9:00:40 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: dbz77

I hope they go out of business and 99% of the people who worked there have to file bankruptcy.


13 posted on 02/16/2009 9:00:56 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: All

They are a moveon.org mirror site of left wing fanatics.

They will spend their time:

1. hating Limbaugh
2. hating Palin
3. hating all Republicans in general
4. defending the messiah after they try to correct him


14 posted on 02/16/2009 9:01:43 AM PST by rbmillerjr (2/6/09 The Day the Republican Party died.....Reagan's Birthday nonetheless)
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To: dbz77

I actually erased it from my tv’s tuner after the shameful job they did on the election. Very simple. Very effective.


15 posted on 02/16/2009 9:03:02 AM PST by Trod Upon (The Left killed my country.)
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To: dbz77
MSNBC could drastically improve their ratings performance by exposing all of the pork in the stimulus bill, the negative side-effects of increasing healthcare, environmental regulation and big-city political machine corruption. MSNBC could continue rebuilding legitimacy by exposing the corruption of labor unions.

Whose side are you on? Don't give them any hints.

consequently, the powers to be know they have a big credibility problem. They have a virus throughout their organization that cannot be cured. They can't just fire everyone and hire more balance minded journalist. They can't go and change all the minds and styles of all current employees. They don't know how to fix it. And they don't know how to investigate and report news objectively. For so long they have started with a point and placed the facts and figures to support it, they lost the ability to investigate the facts and figures and actually report it for a reader to form an opinion.

16 posted on 02/16/2009 9:04:10 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Democrats are for Change - Let's run through a mine field at night wearing clown shoes!)
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To: dbz77

Rush had a similar problem when Bush was elected. Clinton’s election was the best thing to happen to Rush. It ultimately gave him 8 years of juicy material. Although Bush gave him material, it was not prudent to use it.

MSNBC does not have the class nor character of Rush. Obama is MUCH worse than Bush and easier to target and lampoon. As time goes on, anyone who doesn’t point out his failures is going to seem less and less believable.

MSNBC may be a dead network walking.


17 posted on 02/16/2009 9:08:30 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: dbz77

I thought Rachel Madcow was going to be the saviour of MSNBC


18 posted on 02/16/2009 9:08:56 AM PST by Carley (President Obama ~ Leaving No Tax Cheat Behind)
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To: Theresawithanh

KO requires a chauffeur due to vision (medical) problems, unrelated to his inability to see the truth. Therefore, covering road rallies, NASCAR and Grand Prix would be ideal, especially riding shotgun.


19 posted on 02/16/2009 9:16:35 AM PST by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: dbz77

Not surprsing MSNBC is losing money. They’re slobs. One of their guys in the evening never even wears a tie.


20 posted on 02/16/2009 9:16:36 AM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: RobRoy

I don’t think Rush had one problem going from Clinton to Bush. There are always libs open to ridicule, in administrations and out and in Congress. Rush is very much more than one-dimensional. That’s the beauty of his longevity.


21 posted on 02/16/2009 9:20:00 AM PST by youturn ("It's not about doing something, or doing nothing, it's about doing the right thing"...Capito)
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To: excalibur1701
Any respect I had left for MSNBC went down the toilet after their behavior during the election.
Is there any way that the "right" people can take it over?
22 posted on 02/16/2009 9:24:40 AM PST by dbz77
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To: dbz77

OBambi’s FAULT!!


23 posted on 02/16/2009 9:39:23 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: youturn

I agree that Rush is not one dimensional. He was, in fact, not as interesting when Bush was president. Still good, just not as good. He’ll be screamin’ good now.


24 posted on 02/16/2009 9:41:07 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: beaversmom

Why not Fox?


25 posted on 02/16/2009 9:50:29 AM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: whatisthetruth

I got put off by them during the election—just a little too much praise of Obama for my taste. I think Hannity and Beck probably offer some good shows, but I can always see those on YouTube or elsewhere if I feel the need. Right now I’ll only watch Discovery, Science, and NatGeo on cable. I get my news from FR, internet, and radio.


26 posted on 02/16/2009 10:04:24 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Theresawithanh

They took out the tetherball poles in our school district - kids can get hurt! Heck, while on the PTA board for our school, we collected $35K in donations to build a play ground on our new school - the district said our designs were not “safe enough” and MUST include artificial grass with “padding”, etc...

We bought a awning to cover the kindergarten outdoor patios instead! It really IS that bad!!


27 posted on 02/16/2009 10:26:32 AM PST by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: Tenacious 1

If we gave them 100 hints, 1000 clues and “army” instructions (on the heel) they couldn’t figure out how to apply any of those gifts if we head-started 1099 of them!!


28 posted on 02/16/2009 10:28:42 AM PST by ExTxMarine (For whatsoe'ver their sufferings were before; that change they covet makes them suffer more. -Dryden)
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To: rllngrk33

NOPE. I removed it from the channels I get by blocking it out. I say to hell with them and their leftard views. There isn’t a single tool on there I would waste my time watching.


29 posted on 02/16/2009 10:45:50 AM PST by RickB (NOT MY PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: dbz77

The MSNBC Rave is over?

30 posted on 02/16/2009 11:13:25 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Crimson Elephant

Yes... they used to do well if they got 400,000 a night... Matthews used to average around 250,000


31 posted on 02/16/2009 12:06:51 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: beaversmom

I watch Fox, I love LOVE Glenn Beck, and really like Neal Cavuto... Bill O’Reilly makes me mad at times, but his is a worthwhile program...


32 posted on 02/16/2009 12:08:01 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I forgot Cavuto—I do like him too, but I decided on election night I wasn’t going to watch any more cable news. If it is something interesting or exceptional, I’ll see it eventually.


33 posted on 02/16/2009 12:14:02 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

I recommend Glenn Beck every afternoon at 5 eastern time. Glenn is an aquired taste as he is very irreverent in his approach to current events.


34 posted on 02/16/2009 12:34:59 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: mewzilla

I’m sure that will help, putting Maddow in a skirt.

It sounds more like the lipstick and pig routine.


35 posted on 02/16/2009 12:46:04 PM PST by Balata
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To: dbz77
Since the inauguration of Barack Obama, Bill O'Reilly and the Fox News Channel have owned prime time

As opposed to before the inauguration, when BillO and Fox owned prime time...oh wait.

I've seen PMSNBC's numbers climb, but they have yet to beat fox. Every time Drudge posts the ratings, it's the entire FOX lineup, followed by CNN's lineup, then PMSNBC. Hardball doesn't even make the list anymore, which is great, cuz it must drive Mathews nuts!

36 posted on 02/16/2009 9:07:27 PM PST by Huck (Don't vote! It only encourages them! Bye.)
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To: dbz77
Americans are not stupid; they know FOXNEWS is more balanced. O'Reilly talks to Susan Estrich, Al Sharpton and other leftists brave enough to face him. We searched for similar balance on MSNBC and find none.

I've noticed that too. The Fox shows--Oreilly and Hannity, have debates (however inane they may be.) They have different points of view, including libs, on the show to debate.

The libtard shows on PMSNBC-Maddown and Olberman--have nothing but fellow travellers. Never a single debate. Never a conservative.

37 posted on 02/16/2009 9:10:08 PM PST by Huck (Don't vote! It only encourages them! Bye.)
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To: Huck
The libtard shows on PMSNBC-Maddown and Olberman--have nothing but fellow travellers. Never a single debate. Never a conservative.
How can conservatives take over MS-NBC so they can turn it into a right-wing hack network?
38 posted on 02/17/2009 9:31:05 AM PST by dbz77
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