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Pakistan cautions India against "non-state actors" ( ???)
Reuters ^ | Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:32pm GMT | Zeeshan Haider

Posted on 12/27/2008 11:34:52 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan's president promised on Saturday to rid the country of terrorism and his prime minister said the military would not take action first in any face-off with India.

Relations between the nuclear-armed neighbours have deteriorated after India blamed Islamist militants based in Pakistan for the last month's attacks on Mumbai that killed 179 people.

In a sign of mounting tension, Pakistan has cancelled army leave and shifted some troops from its western border with Afghanistan to the eastern border with India.

Pakistan has condemned the Mumbai attacks and has denied any state role, blaming "non-state actors."

President Asif Ali Zardari, speaking at ceremony to mark the first anniversary of the assassination of his wife, former prime minister Benazir Bhutto, said dialogue was the best way forward.

"Yes, we have none state actors...yes, they are forcing an agenda on us. But please don't fall victim because you will be the victim, we will be the victim, the region will be the victim," Zardari said.

The South Asian neighbours both tested nuclear weapons in 1998. They have fought three wars since independence from Britain in 1947 and came to the brink of a fourth after gunmen attacked the Indian parliament in December 2001.

Although many analysts say war is unlikely, international unease is growing and the United States has urged both sides not to raise tension further. China and Iran have also tried to calm things down. 

(Excerpt) Read more at uk.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bombayattacks; india; islam; jihad; mumbai; pakistan

1 posted on 12/27/2008 11:34:52 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: LucyT; NormsRevenge; Dog; Straight Vermonter; G8 Diplomat; Fred Nerks; PhilDragoo; AdmSmith; ...

A somewhat strange headline.


2 posted on 12/27/2008 11:36:14 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

they’ve been inflitrated


3 posted on 12/27/2008 11:37:11 AM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Good Morning Mr & Mrs Scooter and All The Ships At Sea)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Pakistan's president promised on Saturday to rid the country of terrorism

He's going to nuke the entire western half of his own country?

Well, that would be a pretty good start I suppose.

L

4 posted on 12/27/2008 11:38:18 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Our armed forces are...fully prepared but at the same time I assure you, once again, that we will not act. We will only react," Gilani told Muslim diplomats in Islamabad.

Pakistan's Prime Minister sounds rather like German leaders just before their invasion of Poland. In fact all of their actions are eerily reminiscent of that episode in history.

Indian Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee said Pakistan was creating "war hysteria" . . . "The issue is not the defense of Pakistan, the issue is not war, the issue is the terrorist attack on Mumbai," the news agency quoted Mukherjee as saying.

Something which has somehow been lost in the bombast and polemics of the Muslims.

Do the Pakistanis actually think they can "win" a nuclear exchange? Do they think anyone can win in such an exercise?

5 posted on 12/27/2008 11:54:12 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
A bit tough for the government of Pakistan to tell nations that when their spy agency is knee deep in all of these groups.

The government has placated internal groups by supporting international terrorism. Musharraf should have taken the dozens of assassination attempts as a clue that his program wasn't working.

.....by the way, I've got a hundred bucks on the Indians if this thing heats up.

6 posted on 12/27/2008 11:54:50 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

President Asif Ali Zardari would be very knowledgable about non-state actors since they represent a sizeable fraction of his own countrmen.


7 posted on 12/27/2008 11:58:44 AM PST by RightWhale (We were so young two years ago and the DJIA was 12,000)
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Pakistan ۋﮧ۱م

FReepmail if you want on or off

8 posted on 12/27/2008 1:44:45 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (The Middle East: We put the OIL in TURMOIL!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“non-state actors”

Just the catch phrase for terrorists. Thomas Barnett once said something like “transnational terrorists” now got a promotion and are “non-state actors”.

I will have to find the actual quote.


9 posted on 12/27/2008 1:49:47 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; george76; ...
Pakistan's president promised on Saturday to rid the country of terrorism and his prime minister said the military would not take action first in any face-off with India... Pakistan has cancelled army leave and shifted some troops from its western border with Afghanistan to the eastern border with India... President Asif Ali Zardari, speaking at ceremony to mark the first anniversary of the assassination of his wife, former prime minister Benazir Bhutto, said... "Yes, we have none state actors...yes, they are forcing an agenda on us. But please don't fall victim because you will be the victim, we will be the victim, the region will be the victim," Zardari said... They have fought three wars since independence from Britain in 1947 and came to the brink of a fourth after gunmen attacked the Indian parliament in December 2001.
Any word on who won all three of those wars? ;') After the parliament attack, it was foolish of India not to clean out its infestation of Moslems. This latest attack may be (although I kinda doubt it) enough to convince the Paki gov't that the NGOs operating within its borders (terrorist groups) need to be wiped out, and gov't control restored over the border areas with Afghanistan and Iran. They already have de facto control over the border with India, because it's Paki policy to undermine Indian control over Kashmir (which is Indian territory). Thanks Ernest!
10 posted on 12/27/2008 2:09:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, December 6, 2008 !!!)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Alright I messed up his quote:

It was:

“Down here, everybody got a promotion, ‘I’m not just a terrorist, I’m a transnational actor’ “.

Non-state actor is still a catch phrase for terrorists as being used in the article (although it can apply to other entities as well).


11 posted on 12/27/2008 2:56:43 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pakistan could show some good will toward India by killing a few thousand radical Islamist every month for say a year or two.


12 posted on 12/27/2008 4:42:28 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice.)
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