Posted on 12/05/2008 8:54:06 PM PST by FreeAtlanta
Seven Reasons Why Barack Obama Should make the Birth Certificate Controversy go Away
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It is not fair to label those who want answers as racists, disillusioned right wingers, conspiracy nuts or any other convenient appellation thereby asking them to simply shut up. Lawsuits filed to require that an official vault document be produced have come from African Americans, democrats and a host of constitutionally concerned citizens.
In fact one You Tube offering about the matter garnered 750,000 views alone and the total viewing of videos and articles on the subject is somewhere near three million to date.
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Reason # 8: KINKO’S is open 24 hours a day..ready to Photoshop any document.
Yup, where there’s smoke there’s fire. osama hussein, produce your birth certificate.
One possible reason why he will not is that he actually did post a forged BC on the internet in June. He forged the document because he was born in Kenya.
The backers of the President-elect in many respects are not fair. I find the ad hominem remarks verging on a sort of hysteria in some respects. What gives me a faint chill is the absolute silence on the part of many persons in the media. This among conservatives as well.
I can only say that while the President-elect is not a demagogue, the press has painted themselves into a corner. They have created their own monster. To absolutely go overboard and lend themselves to utterly impossible expectations of the man, and almost deify him, makes them now look at their creation.
The persons whom they rant on about as being wackos, to my mind are more like a tenacious wire haired terrier - it has it's teeth in their elegant posteriors. Just give up want is wanted, then maybe the problem will evaporate.
Want to know why he hasn't?
Because nobody of any importance has asked to see it.
Guaranteed, if someone in a position of any legal authority or influence compels Obama to produce a birth certificate, he'll produce something. Until then, he can sit back, secure in the knowledge that this is a total non-story that has earned no mainstream coverage except footnotes of ridicule and contempt from the few who have taken the time to comment on it. Every legal challenge has, so far, been laughed out of court.
Do you think Obama cares what some 9/11 Truther or professional card-player believes? Do you think he's going to just hand over his birth certificate to every Joe-Shmoe who demands to put it under a microscope only to declare it fraudulent? For cryin' out loud, there were a whopping fourteen people holding vigil at the steps of the Supreme Court today! Hardly a Constitutional crisis.
Obama has not produced his birth certificate because outside of a few corners of the blogosphere, no one cares to see it.
Mods:
Can you please look into who is abusing the keywords on the CertifiGate threads? We see stuff like ArtBell, TinfoilHat, NotThisShitAgain. When an issue has 5 concurrent cases docketed at the supreme court, maybe it’s time to put a stop to the abuse.
Drew, some might look at your comments and call you a troll or a sleeper, but I don’t think you are. I think you’re a skeptic, and that’s alright. You at least argue your point with some degree of logic.
I’m not going to argue with you, but I do want to go on record as saying that I disagree wholeheartedly with your analysis of this issue, and think you’re wrong on every point.
That being said, I respect you for at least having a real viewpoint, and for being willing to swim against the tide.
Gotta respect that.
Cheers ~
I’ve heard it all from the Obamamorons; he’s already released it, he’s too busy, the original won’t be enough, it’s a tin foil hat conspiracy, the FEC must have checked, McCain didn’t bring it up, the media hasn’t covered it, he has a passport.....it goes on and on. $10 and 10 minutes will clear it up, instead Obama spends hundreds of thousands of dollars to prevent it from being released. Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Yeh, another excuse from another team of lawyers.
I appreciate that.
I'm no troll or sleeper. I've been posting here a long time. I love this place! In fact, I love this place so much that it pains me to see it taken over by a small but loud group of conspiracy theorists. As such, I'm gonna chime in on the BC threads, throw my wrench into the spokes and make it known that this conspiracy is not monolithically accepted as doctrine here on Free Republic (until JimRob himself establishes otherwise).
You’re absolutely wrong about the conspiracy theory, Drew. Free Republic hasn’t suddenly gone mad. It’s the same place you’ve grown to love, and the people here are just as smart and solid as they ever were.
You’re simply not seeing this issue for some reason. I would encourage you to read some of these BC threads from end to end with an open mind. Try to digest all of the facts, reasoning and logic folks are writing on the subject.
In this case, there really is a “there” there.
Ditto that. I mused over the battery of fire for those who "swam against the tide" this on FR. Been there myself. I thought the boy Elian should have been returned to his father in Cuba. I saw an article that a boy could not be bought by Disney Land. Another time I opined on the Holocaust. Not that I disputed it, but the comments by those who were not born at the time, saying they were still distraught about it. Got called an idiot.
Bottom line is, as I stare at the snow in the driveway up in Great Lakes country, nobody takes over Free Republic, they cannot do it. The system of moderators and Jim, gives us, within reason, a forum. The fact that I am still here proves it.
PS. Decent moderate soul that I am, I got trun off the rival website of the feisty lady who helped Linda Trip.
I’ll say this, Peter.
Not everyone “swimming against the tide” on this subject is simply a skeptic. Some are Obama supporters, who are here to sow dissension in the ranks.
Others are good folks who just cannot wrap their heads around this issue and are waging some sort of personal crusade to get the rest of us to come to our senses.
Skeptics, I can appreciate. The Obots and the ignorant, not so much.
I have and what I see is a lot of dishonesty. At the bare minimum, Obama was born to an American mother and this in itself makes him an American and eligible to the vast majority of American people. To try and get him disqualified on a technicality strikes me as sour grapes and you can guarantee if the tables were turned and it was, say, Palin with a British father, there wouldn't be anyone here screaming about the Constitution. That's where it is dishonest.
And, for the record, I believe Obama was born in Hawaii and Donofrio's argument is bunk.
Now, I'm no cheerleader for Obama. I didn't vote for him and I disagree with him on the issues. That being said, he was elected by the American people and it wasn't a close election either. It was pretty decisive. In fact, the American people gave a resounding vote of "No Confidence" to the Republican party --the party that is the established conduit for conservatives. Why did this happen? How can conservatives regain the voice of the Republican party, the confidence of the American people and win back Congress in 2010? These, to me, are the issues that matter.
Chasing ghosts, snipes, Great Pumpkins and whatnot isn't going to change the absolute fact that on January 20th of next year, Barack Obama will be sworn in as this nation's 44th President and Commander in Chief of our armed forces and for the next two years he will preside over a largely Democratic Congress. People here are understandably upset and depressed but they shouldn't be. We have an undeniable advantage. Our advantage is that conservatism works and socialism fails every time they have been tried! Every time!
The only way Obama will enjoy a successful presidency is if he moves to the right. Twenty three months from now we will have the opportunity to help Obama move to the right and temper his liberalism by electing conservatives to Congress as we did for Clinton in 1994. In the meantime, we have to find strong, electable conservative candidates and refocus the Republican party again on those values that made them the commanding party they once were. We have real work to do.
Many of the founders were afraid of mob rule by democracy. If you look at the media coverage of the campaign, which some have self-admitted they were biased toward Obama, it should scare you to death to make the statement above. We are supposedly a nation of laws, which you refer to as technicalities and not mob rule by those brainwashed by a biased media.
Shall we throw out the laws and just vote, ex post fcato on everything for our own convenience?
Interesting proposition.
Barack Obama himself rose through the ranks of Illinois politics, thanks in no small part to getting his opponents disqualified on technicalities, and has even gone so far as to have sealed records unsealed on court order. Was that sour grapes?
As far as people on Free Republic being biased, I myself am quite comfortable with the possibility that John McCain might not be eligible for the office of President, as far as being a natural born citizen under the Constitution.
You forget where you are. Not many FReepers supported McCain. We came on board for Palin. It was a visceral reaction. We just like her, living her life by her principles, and not being afraid to demonstrate it and speak about it. But, there are some things that are disturbing about Palin, such as cap and trade, and illegal immigration. That may well have been due to her supporting the top of the ticket. Time will tell.
The only flight of fancy on my part, would have been if this suave predator, Obama I would have taken her as a trophy wife to Kenya. The odds are against that.
Jenny Jerome was an American beauty from New York State, she married Englishman, Randolph Churchill. Her son, Winston Churchill was born in 1874 in England. He was the first to be granted honorary citizenship of the United States of America, this in 1963.
Obviously his mother, being who she was, did not qualify him as an American citizen previously.
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