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Gun Law Update—Early Brady Plans Revealed: Push to end all private sales tops list
Men's News Daily ^ | December 1, 2008 | Alan Korwin

Posted on 12/01/2008 6:14:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Push to end all private sales tops list

“Universal background checks for EVERY gun sold in this country.”

[NOTE: Don't forget to recognize and celebrate Bill of Rights Day, Dec. 15; in Phoenix we will be at the Wrigley Mansion starting at 5:30 p.m., you're invited, for details or to RSVP: http://www.gunlaws.com/newstuff.htm]

Plenty of gun-ban speculation is flying. I have this quote direct from Sarah Brady in a letter addressed to me:

“On Election Day, we helped deliver a strong victory for President-Elect Barack Obama and Vice-President-Elect Joe Biden. They will be two of the most powerful allies we have ever had.”

This is what Obama meant when he told you to your face that he respects the Second Amendment. He is the acknowledged champion of the anti-rights gun-ban movement.

POINT ONE

Most of you already know that phony talk about “gun-show-loopholes” was a smokescreen. Sarah and her team now confirm this. They are planning for: “universal background checks for EVERY gun sold in this country.” (Her emphasis, not mine).

Gun shows, she says, are now merely “included” in that plan, this will appear as proposed legislation shortly after inauguration day.

Smart money says it will be fast tracked — so be sure to join, re-up, or get friends to join gun-rights groups to aid the battle. The pro-rights groups are the main chance to slow it down and re-tool it to whatever extent possible. Don’t wait.

Find your state and national gun-rights groups here: http://www.gunlaws.com/links

For ideas on what one person (that’s you pal) can do: http://www.gunlaws.com/Tactics%20That%20Work.htm

The new gun-tracking plan will require somewhat complex legislation, to mix personal or private sales, and transfers between family members, in the centrally managed FBI NICS system for licensed dealers. A mechanism to accomplish that means making government larger and hiring more help.

The rhetoric has now expanded from phony “gun-show loopholes” to a new “deadly loopholes” idea: “We know Obama and Biden share our commitment to closing deadly loopholes in our gun laws.”

If there was any doubt amongst the public about Obama’s “support” for rights, the Bradys, now that the election is over, express the truth: “The Obama-Biden ticket won convincingly while clearly supporting gun laws.” Everyone supports gun laws that disarm violent criminals. The Bradys though are talking about something else — gun laws that disarm, encumber or infringe on the rights of the innocent. They plan on government tracking of every firearm in private hands.

POINT TWO

Campaign talk about making the phony “assault-weapons” ban permanent has morphed into “enact a stronger, comprehensive federal ban on military-style assault weapons.” They’re drafting it right now (Congress doesn’t draft these things, interest groups do and hand it to them on platters).

The only thing that could be “stronger” than Clinton’s total ban on the sale of new products would be to go after existing firearms in civilian hands, which Clinton left alone. That would require contrabanding, outright confiscations or at a minimum, registration schemes. We’ll have to wait for the bill to drop to see what they plan.

“Comprehensive,” and “military-style” seem like code words for “more guns banned,” far greater lists and categories than Clinton was able to get enacted. Normal capacity magazines like police use will undoubtedly be included, and if the past is prologue, the lists of guns will include standard household firearms the public has safely owned for decades, with little concern for criminals who misuse firearms (already strictly illegal and widely unenforced). Never forget — “assault” is a type of behavior, not a type of hardware.

I’ve said it before and it bears repeating. If the Bradys get Obama to go after CRIMINAL MISUSE of firearms, they’ll have widespread support from NRA types and the marksmanship community as a whole. If they instead go after private property the community already peaceably owns, they’ll meet outraged resistance.

POINT THREE

Sarah Brady is asking Obama to “close the deadly holes in our current laws that allow terrorists to buy guns.” This is a solution in search of a problem, since terrorists already can’t legally buy guns. Brady president Paul Helmke talks instead of blocking “suspected terrorists.” That could mean anyone.

It’s a back door way to vastly expand the NICS Index — the list of prohibited possessors that reportedly includes more than ten million Americans. Once you’re on, it can be next to impossible to get off, so making it larger serves the goal of the gun banners wonderfully. Many (but not all) currently in the NICS index are violent felons and other low-lifes who belong there.

It’s not completely clear who they’d like to add, but in the past, an effort was made to grant arbitrary authority to the Attorney General to add names to terrorism “watch lists.” This would prevent those people from air travel and place other restrictions on civil liberties. Sort of like Guantanamo detainees without the need to be caught shooting at Americans on a battlefield. Anyone on that list would be automatically banned by a NICS check, and those checks would no longer be limited to retail purchases from dealers.

FYI, if you’re placed on the NICS list, it suggests you’re a prohibited possessor whether you are or not, so any guns or ammo you already own or even touch could then constitute a felony. To a zealous cop or judge, a NICS listing might require you to prove your innocence, a nightmare of legal problems. That list should be scrupulously accurate and easily corrected, tasks government is known to do worse than their “management” of the economy.

Just for the record, any actual terrorist is totally banned from buying or having guns in this country, but they could hardly care less about lists kept in West Virginia by the FBI. Terrorist by definition means “We smuggle weapons you can’t even get, easier than you can buy a bag of cocaine in any America city.”

An aside — these “terrorists” (generally a code name for radical muslims) are determined to kill and blow up everything they can, and they prove it around the world constantly, you needn’t take my word for it. They haven’t done it here since 9/11 for one main reason — president Bush, although hampered with constant attacks in the media (which have now swayed large swaths of the public) has been killing them off as fast as he can, before they can strike us here. He may take a lot of flack, and be looked down upon by many, but he just may be remembered as one of the greatest presidents we have ever had the luck to have. Please don’t write to complain to me about that. I’m just noting that the muslims are killing everywhere but here, and president Bush is leading that charge. What’s the bumper sticker? “Saving your butt, like it or not.” OK, so he says he doesn’t read a lot, that’s another discussion.

POINT FOUR

Sarah (Brady, not Palin) included one bald deception in her message by saying “we achieved a major victory when the first federal gun law in over twelve years passed.” She refers to the NICS improvement act, for which both the Bradys and NRA took credit. It expands the NICS index by helping states add nut cases (the non-technical description) to the list (a rule Brady rightly applauds). It also lets falsely accused or no-longer-ineligible people get off the list, which you couldn’t do previously (a rule NRA rightly applauds).

The 12-year part is laughably inaccurate, but no one expects the media to point out the lie so I will, for just this century, including:

–The PATRIOT Act (which redundantly disarms terrorists and broadens the definition of who the government can label and treat as a terrorist);

–The Aviation and Transportation Security Act (which arms passenger pilots and eventually cargo pilots);

–The Homeland Security Act (which arms all sorts of new federal agents);

–The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (HR218, which arms retired, off-duty and traveling police officers of every description across all state lines, exactly what the Second Amendment is supposed to but no longer protects for the public);

–The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Firearms Act (which protects firearm manufacturers from frivolous lawsuits);

–The Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act (which stops authorities from gun confiscations after storms and disasters like Katrina);

–And that’s just the bigger ones in the past eight years.

What hasn’t been passed “after eight long years of watching the gun lobby run loose in the halls of power” (her words) was a single federal law that directly improved the rights of gun owners in their normal every day lives. Not one.

Authorities got armed and protected. Manufacturers got protected. Cured or falsely accused nut cases got a redress of grievances. Storm-disaster victims got something. But your routine human right to carry, right to defend yourself, right to travel armed, right to shop away from home, right to get a gun from your dad or brother in another state, right to get a tax break for going to the range, or for teaching your kids how to shoot safely — no laws like that passed through Congress in all those years. What a lost opportunity while we ran loose in the halls of power. If only we had some of these laws: http://www.gunlaws.com/sunshin.htm

Sworn to protect, preserve and defend the Constitution, Congress has done nothing of the sort when it comes to your Second Amendment rights. That’s a national disgrace, and it will be sorely felt when Brady and her evil cohorts savagely attack what rights you have remaining.

POINT FIVE

Suggestion for action –

1 - ALERT your local marksmanship clubs and fellow marksman by emailing them this Gun Law Update;

2 - DECIDE to go to lunch or dinner the week of January 12 before inauguration day at any decent restaurant near you (just pick a date and place and tell everyone to go there);

3 - AGREE together — in person — to get the word out and show up at your state capital and other high profile spots when infringements to your right to keep and bear arms are assaulted. Agree to face up to people who disrespect your rights and do harm to the precious and sacred Constitution of the United States of America.

More details when they arrive. To sign up for future alerts go to http://www.gunlaws.com

POINT SIX

Crass commercial message from an unabashed capitalist free-marketeer — books make excellent gifts, help us continue our work and do some good Christmas shopping with us. New gun owners need the rules, long-time gun owners need new tactics and strategies, the politically correct need correction, and everyone needs a little extra safety, preparedness and a good read or two. http://www.gunlaws.com/books.htm. It’s a particularly good time to consider the Founders Package — the books our Founding Fathers read and wrote. http://www.gunlaws.com/books8founders.htm


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; banglist; bho2008; bhobanglist; congress; obama; obamatransitionfile; presidentelectobama; rtkba; sarahbrady
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

Who fought in New Orleans?
Who fought in California?
Who fought in New Jersey?
Who fought in New York
Who fought in Massachusetts?

Pointing out the truth isn’t cowardice. We need to stop gun control wherever it shows up, because they never stop.

Michael Steele that so many Republicans seem to love is fine with the Assault Weapons Ban, but draws the line at a ‘Total Ban’ on all firearms. They want to make him head of the RNC.

The frog is already boiling!


41 posted on 12/01/2008 8:02:11 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Dead Corpse

Has any one read Vince Flynn’s “Term limits”?


42 posted on 12/01/2008 8:02:36 PM PST by unkus
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To: LibWhacker

At which point, it’s time for Texas secession.


43 posted on 12/01/2008 8:05:56 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

You’d surprised what a couple of protests and some people behind them will do. And most of the South’s authority will not try anything, simply because they will have to go to church with the people that they terrorized.

There will come a point where people who are police officers realize that arresting their friends and neighbors isn’t right. They will quit, and the gov’t will send the National Guard in, and they will quit, and the gov’t will just wonder what the heck is going on.

Then China/Russia will attack.


44 posted on 12/01/2008 8:09:49 PM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: techno; Travis McGee
So, I appreciate your rant in the spirit intended, but my post was entirely cynical. However, take heart, dear citizen:Art of the cache

alas, the original is lost in the mists of time. Well hmm - the Wayback machine has an earlier version: Earlier Art of the Cache on FR

Especially take note of post 63...

Of course, Archive.org will take down almost anything when asked...bump to travis mcgee.

45 posted on 12/01/2008 8:10:58 PM PST by no-s
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The Gun Grabbers could have all “Assault Weapons” declared NFA weapons.


46 posted on 12/01/2008 8:24:25 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Push to end all private sales tops list

That tops the list because outlawing private sales is the only way the government gun grabbers can keep track of who owns what. Every gun bought new or used from a licensed gun dealer or transferred from one person to another through a FFL dealer has a record of who transferred it and who received it, and also of every subsequent transfer that is made through a FFL (Federal Firearms Licensee).

If all private transfers, sales, gifts, etc, are forced to go through a FFL, the transfer will be recorded in the FFL's permanent "bound book" along with the names and addresses of the two parties involved. Those records are subject to inspection by BATF agents, so eventually the owner of every firearm in the US that has been transferred from a dealer to customer or from one person to another will be recorded by serial #, manufacturer, description, and the name and address of transfer-er and transferee and the government will have access to that information. If that process becomes federal law with violators subject to the same severe penalties that are now mandatory for most other federal firearms law violations (mandatory 10 years with no parole) it will mark the beginning of the end for private ownership of firearms in the US.

47 posted on 12/01/2008 8:30:52 PM PST by epow (I'll keep my God, my freedom, my guns, and my money. You can keep THE CHANGE)
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To: Sharrukin

The choice is to die on your feet, or live on your knees. Everyone dies of something. God knows the retirement dream is out, what with the 401K and IRAs tanking. Anyway, I don’t remember where I heard it but this is one of my favorite quotes, “The day it becomes necessary to bury your guns, is the day you should dig them up! I wont be burying my guns.


48 posted on 12/01/2008 8:37:38 PM PST by Boiling point (If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Google up: “Racist Origins of Gun Control”. Also the “Camilla Massacre”. History:

1/ After the Civil War, gun laws were first used to disarm free blacks in the South. Gun toting whites were ignored by police (except for, of course, “poor white trash”).
2/ In 1906, the Atlanta Journal and Atlanta Constitution whipped up white frenzy in order to sell more newspapers; this resulted in a mob attack on the local black community.
3/ New York’s Sullivan Act was used to forcibly disarm Italians and Eastern Europeans [read Jews].
4/ Despite all the big talk, well most gun owners in America, given the right tragedy, would scurry down to the local P.D. and turn in their guns - look at the Aussies.

Beware!

The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. Frederick Douglass


49 posted on 12/01/2008 8:41:51 PM PST by QBFimi2 (Ve are the New World Order; ve bring to the world dis-order. Spike Jones, 1943.)
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To: Boiling point

I agree with the sentiment. I just think that realistically counter-insurgencies don’t work that way.

Some of the first ones to rebel will be criminals, and other unsavoury types as they are in the habit of doing so and have little to lose. Later others join as things get worse and compromise with the government becomes increasingly difficult. They need food, ammo, safe houses, places for the wounded, couriers, storage sites, road watchers, etc. Going out in a blaze of glory is cool, but it may not serve much point if they simply level your house with 25mm cannon fire from a Bradley.

Hiding your firearms may be the only way to keep them if the insurgents are two states away, or getting to them means going through roadblocks. Down time from service with an insurgent group is also a consideration as most insurgencies are carried on by part-timers. This was the case in the Revolutionary war, as well as most modern insurgencies.


50 posted on 12/01/2008 8:50:43 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: factoryrat

That’s why me and a couple good ole’ boys are working on a Diesel powered rifle. A spring loaded piston provides compression to ignite diesel fuel that propels a 12guage slug down the barrel. The explosion also re-cocks the piston (Semi-automatic). We wont be “Tagging” the projectiles.


51 posted on 12/01/2008 8:51:30 PM PST by Boiling point (If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Spent most of my time with the carry pistol: self defense at a minimum force level, after all...

But I’ll be working the AR in detail: I know I can’t win,
but, if you take just one with you somebody else has a chance.

Not good, but about the best I can do: sorry ‘bout that!


52 posted on 12/01/2008 9:55:06 PM PST by benewton
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

The 2nd amendment is the trip-wire that tells us when it’s necessary to take back our government.


53 posted on 12/01/2008 11:07:19 PM PST by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Brady president Paul Helmke talks instead of blocking “suspected terrorists.” That could mean anyone. It’s a back door way to vastly expand the NICS Index — the list of prohibited possessors that reportedly includes more than ten million Americans. Once you’re on, it can be next to impossible to get off,

Pretty clear deprivation of '...life, liberty, or property without due process of law.', something Constitutionally prohibited.

But then, the whole pile of infringements on the Second Amendment is Constitutionally prohibited, too.

54 posted on 12/01/2008 11:18:46 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: mamelukesabre
I’m about fed up with this country.

It isn't the country I am fed up with, FRiend, it is those who are actively working to destroy it.

Blatant disregard for the very foundations of our Republic (the Constitution and the Bill of Rights), from just urinating on them to chiseling away at them, will eventually bring this Republic down, and I reserve my contempt for those who are doing the damage, wherever, whomever they are.

55 posted on 12/01/2008 11:24:16 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Same old same old from the Brady bunch; what’s new, alas, is that the Democrats now hold the White House and both houses of congress. Stormy weather ahead for the Second Amendment...


56 posted on 12/02/2008 3:46:40 AM PST by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: struggle
They will quit, and the gov’t will send the National Guard in, and they will quit

They will lose their jobs, and their benefits, and their pensions; they will lose their cars, their homes, their kid's college educations, their investments, their credit ratings, their American dream. In the Natl Guard they will lose a lot more, if they up and quit, disobeying a legitimate order. And it will be adjudged legitimate.

You must know a lot of heroes. Good for you.

57 posted on 12/02/2008 4:00:16 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: unkus

http://www.amazon.com/Term-Limits-Vince-Flynn/dp/0671023187

Not surprising that the “professional” editorialists didn’t like it, but a number of Amazon readers reviews were quite positive.

Haven’t read any of Vince’s stuff, but Ross’ Unintended Consequences, Vin’s Black Arrow, Braken’s Enemies: F&D, Boston’s Molon Labe, etc... Excellent book all of varying styles.


58 posted on 12/02/2008 5:57:35 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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btt


59 posted on 12/02/2008 6:04:09 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Ouderkirk
"Never Forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn’t allow him to do if you were equipped to prevent it.”
- Alexander Hope

That is an excellent axiomatic quote. It is one of those foundational concepts concerning the harsh nature of reality that the left and their useful idiot acolytes try to either hide or outright lie about.

60 posted on 12/02/2008 7:16:33 AM PST by TonyStark
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