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Gun Law Update—Early Brady Plans Revealed: Push to end all private sales tops list
Men's News Daily ^ | December 1, 2008 | Alan Korwin

Posted on 12/01/2008 6:14:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Push to end all private sales tops list

“Universal background checks for EVERY gun sold in this country.”

[NOTE: Don't forget to recognize and celebrate Bill of Rights Day, Dec. 15; in Phoenix we will be at the Wrigley Mansion starting at 5:30 p.m., you're invited, for details or to RSVP: http://www.gunlaws.com/newstuff.htm]

Plenty of gun-ban speculation is flying. I have this quote direct from Sarah Brady in a letter addressed to me:

“On Election Day, we helped deliver a strong victory for President-Elect Barack Obama and Vice-President-Elect Joe Biden. They will be two of the most powerful allies we have ever had.”

This is what Obama meant when he told you to your face that he respects the Second Amendment. He is the acknowledged champion of the anti-rights gun-ban movement.

POINT ONE

Most of you already know that phony talk about “gun-show-loopholes” was a smokescreen. Sarah and her team now confirm this. They are planning for: “universal background checks for EVERY gun sold in this country.” (Her emphasis, not mine).

Gun shows, she says, are now merely “included” in that plan, this will appear as proposed legislation shortly after inauguration day.

Smart money says it will be fast tracked — so be sure to join, re-up, or get friends to join gun-rights groups to aid the battle. The pro-rights groups are the main chance to slow it down and re-tool it to whatever extent possible. Don’t wait.

Find your state and national gun-rights groups here: http://www.gunlaws.com/links

For ideas on what one person (that’s you pal) can do: http://www.gunlaws.com/Tactics%20That%20Work.htm

The new gun-tracking plan will require somewhat complex legislation, to mix personal or private sales, and transfers between family members, in the centrally managed FBI NICS system for licensed dealers. A mechanism to accomplish that means making government larger and hiring more help.

The rhetoric has now expanded from phony “gun-show loopholes” to a new “deadly loopholes” idea: “We know Obama and Biden share our commitment to closing deadly loopholes in our gun laws.”

If there was any doubt amongst the public about Obama’s “support” for rights, the Bradys, now that the election is over, express the truth: “The Obama-Biden ticket won convincingly while clearly supporting gun laws.” Everyone supports gun laws that disarm violent criminals. The Bradys though are talking about something else — gun laws that disarm, encumber or infringe on the rights of the innocent. They plan on government tracking of every firearm in private hands.

POINT TWO

Campaign talk about making the phony “assault-weapons” ban permanent has morphed into “enact a stronger, comprehensive federal ban on military-style assault weapons.” They’re drafting it right now (Congress doesn’t draft these things, interest groups do and hand it to them on platters).

The only thing that could be “stronger” than Clinton’s total ban on the sale of new products would be to go after existing firearms in civilian hands, which Clinton left alone. That would require contrabanding, outright confiscations or at a minimum, registration schemes. We’ll have to wait for the bill to drop to see what they plan.

“Comprehensive,” and “military-style” seem like code words for “more guns banned,” far greater lists and categories than Clinton was able to get enacted. Normal capacity magazines like police use will undoubtedly be included, and if the past is prologue, the lists of guns will include standard household firearms the public has safely owned for decades, with little concern for criminals who misuse firearms (already strictly illegal and widely unenforced). Never forget — “assault” is a type of behavior, not a type of hardware.

I’ve said it before and it bears repeating. If the Bradys get Obama to go after CRIMINAL MISUSE of firearms, they’ll have widespread support from NRA types and the marksmanship community as a whole. If they instead go after private property the community already peaceably owns, they’ll meet outraged resistance.

POINT THREE

Sarah Brady is asking Obama to “close the deadly holes in our current laws that allow terrorists to buy guns.” This is a solution in search of a problem, since terrorists already can’t legally buy guns. Brady president Paul Helmke talks instead of blocking “suspected terrorists.” That could mean anyone.

It’s a back door way to vastly expand the NICS Index — the list of prohibited possessors that reportedly includes more than ten million Americans. Once you’re on, it can be next to impossible to get off, so making it larger serves the goal of the gun banners wonderfully. Many (but not all) currently in the NICS index are violent felons and other low-lifes who belong there.

It’s not completely clear who they’d like to add, but in the past, an effort was made to grant arbitrary authority to the Attorney General to add names to terrorism “watch lists.” This would prevent those people from air travel and place other restrictions on civil liberties. Sort of like Guantanamo detainees without the need to be caught shooting at Americans on a battlefield. Anyone on that list would be automatically banned by a NICS check, and those checks would no longer be limited to retail purchases from dealers.

FYI, if you’re placed on the NICS list, it suggests you’re a prohibited possessor whether you are or not, so any guns or ammo you already own or even touch could then constitute a felony. To a zealous cop or judge, a NICS listing might require you to prove your innocence, a nightmare of legal problems. That list should be scrupulously accurate and easily corrected, tasks government is known to do worse than their “management” of the economy.

Just for the record, any actual terrorist is totally banned from buying or having guns in this country, but they could hardly care less about lists kept in West Virginia by the FBI. Terrorist by definition means “We smuggle weapons you can’t even get, easier than you can buy a bag of cocaine in any America city.”

An aside — these “terrorists” (generally a code name for radical muslims) are determined to kill and blow up everything they can, and they prove it around the world constantly, you needn’t take my word for it. They haven’t done it here since 9/11 for one main reason — president Bush, although hampered with constant attacks in the media (which have now swayed large swaths of the public) has been killing them off as fast as he can, before they can strike us here. He may take a lot of flack, and be looked down upon by many, but he just may be remembered as one of the greatest presidents we have ever had the luck to have. Please don’t write to complain to me about that. I’m just noting that the muslims are killing everywhere but here, and president Bush is leading that charge. What’s the bumper sticker? “Saving your butt, like it or not.” OK, so he says he doesn’t read a lot, that’s another discussion.

POINT FOUR

Sarah (Brady, not Palin) included one bald deception in her message by saying “we achieved a major victory when the first federal gun law in over twelve years passed.” She refers to the NICS improvement act, for which both the Bradys and NRA took credit. It expands the NICS index by helping states add nut cases (the non-technical description) to the list (a rule Brady rightly applauds). It also lets falsely accused or no-longer-ineligible people get off the list, which you couldn’t do previously (a rule NRA rightly applauds).

The 12-year part is laughably inaccurate, but no one expects the media to point out the lie so I will, for just this century, including:

–The PATRIOT Act (which redundantly disarms terrorists and broadens the definition of who the government can label and treat as a terrorist);

–The Aviation and Transportation Security Act (which arms passenger pilots and eventually cargo pilots);

–The Homeland Security Act (which arms all sorts of new federal agents);

–The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (HR218, which arms retired, off-duty and traveling police officers of every description across all state lines, exactly what the Second Amendment is supposed to but no longer protects for the public);

–The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Firearms Act (which protects firearm manufacturers from frivolous lawsuits);

–The Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act (which stops authorities from gun confiscations after storms and disasters like Katrina);

–And that’s just the bigger ones in the past eight years.

What hasn’t been passed “after eight long years of watching the gun lobby run loose in the halls of power” (her words) was a single federal law that directly improved the rights of gun owners in their normal every day lives. Not one.

Authorities got armed and protected. Manufacturers got protected. Cured or falsely accused nut cases got a redress of grievances. Storm-disaster victims got something. But your routine human right to carry, right to defend yourself, right to travel armed, right to shop away from home, right to get a gun from your dad or brother in another state, right to get a tax break for going to the range, or for teaching your kids how to shoot safely — no laws like that passed through Congress in all those years. What a lost opportunity while we ran loose in the halls of power. If only we had some of these laws: http://www.gunlaws.com/sunshin.htm

Sworn to protect, preserve and defend the Constitution, Congress has done nothing of the sort when it comes to your Second Amendment rights. That’s a national disgrace, and it will be sorely felt when Brady and her evil cohorts savagely attack what rights you have remaining.

POINT FIVE

Suggestion for action –

1 - ALERT your local marksmanship clubs and fellow marksman by emailing them this Gun Law Update;

2 - DECIDE to go to lunch or dinner the week of January 12 before inauguration day at any decent restaurant near you (just pick a date and place and tell everyone to go there);

3 - AGREE together — in person — to get the word out and show up at your state capital and other high profile spots when infringements to your right to keep and bear arms are assaulted. Agree to face up to people who disrespect your rights and do harm to the precious and sacred Constitution of the United States of America.

More details when they arrive. To sign up for future alerts go to http://www.gunlaws.com

POINT SIX

Crass commercial message from an unabashed capitalist free-marketeer — books make excellent gifts, help us continue our work and do some good Christmas shopping with us. New gun owners need the rules, long-time gun owners need new tactics and strategies, the politically correct need correction, and everyone needs a little extra safety, preparedness and a good read or two. http://www.gunlaws.com/books.htm. It’s a particularly good time to consider the Founders Package — the books our Founding Fathers read and wrote. http://www.gunlaws.com/books8founders.htm


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; banglist; bho2008; bhobanglist; congress; obama; obamatransitionfile; presidentelectobama; rtkba; sarahbrady
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
I will NOT allow them to seize my guns without a fight.

But that's the easier way to do it. You won't be home; maybe arrested for something else entirely; and they'll get a warrant and poof go your guns.
Why should anybody get hurt? Unless, of course, that particular day, they want an example for the rest. Gun owner goes berserk, resists legitimate authority, gets gassed/flamed/shot. Proves gun owners are crazy and intimidates the holdouts.
Are you really ready to go up against the government?

21 posted on 12/01/2008 7:04:31 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: TonyStark

Never Forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn’t allow him to do if you were equipped to prevent it.” - Alexander Hope


22 posted on 12/01/2008 7:06:02 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Never underestimate the ability of a liberal to deny reality and attempt to change the rules to do s)
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To: GBA
I'm a “Katrina survivor” that was living in Biloxi at the time. No one was foolish enough to even contemplate gun confiscation in Mississippi. Many NOLA residents have been on the dole for several generations, so being a sheeple is second nature. Sorry if I offended anyone's sensibilities, but the truth hurts.
23 posted on 12/01/2008 7:06:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: TonyStark
That's right. Molon labe!

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.
Groove to Black Violin EPK, too.


24 posted on 12/01/2008 7:10:56 PM PST by rdb3 ([T]he cool regions of the head are easily trumped by the raging fires of the heart.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks for that. The government and power it wields scares the beejeezus out of me. One never knows when it's going to turn around and bite you with it.

“Freedom is a fragile thing and never more than one generation away from extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom and then lost it have never known it again.” -- Ronald Reagan

25 posted on 12/01/2008 7:16:31 PM PST by GBA
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To: GBA

>A lot of us talk big, but these folks lived it.
>Put yourself in any of these people’s shoes and see what feelings come up.

I feel like the police officers doing the confiscation should have been shot. That they had weapons and were attempting illegal seizures [theft] makes it armed robbery. Citizens have a right to protect themselves from thieves.


26 posted on 12/01/2008 7:17:59 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know, I’ve watched the Federal gov’t allow millions of illegals to break all sorts of laws with total impunity for over 20 years now. I know what laws they are allowed to ignore.

If this ban/registration business passes I’ll know what laws I will finally start ignoring. If I don’t get the same immunity as illegal aliens and someone shows up at my door to question me about my guns there is going to be serious trouble.

I’m totally fed up with this garbage and I’m not going to let gov’t imbeciles violate my constitutional rights on my own front porch. It simply isn’t going to happen.


27 posted on 12/01/2008 7:22:15 PM PST by navyguy (The National Reset Button is pushed with the trigger finger.)
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To: OneWingedShark

yeah, but who wants to die? Or have your family caught in the crossfire? Tough choice if you ask me.


28 posted on 12/01/2008 7:22:56 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Ouderkirk
Wow, excellent quote; it bears repeating:

Never Forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn’t allow him to do if you were equipped to prevent it.
-- Alexander Hope

29 posted on 12/01/2008 7:24:37 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: navyguy

Care to list said laws?


30 posted on 12/01/2008 7:25:24 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: techno

How do you get a billion weapons out of the hands of 300 million people?


31 posted on 12/01/2008 7:26:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These articles are so inspiring! I need to go see my pals at the shop again!


32 posted on 12/01/2008 7:27:58 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not why the ship was built." by The First Gal of AK)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

1. Pass a semi-restrictive law that 60% of the people obey 120 million left
2. Pass restrictive use laws that harass users 60 million left
3. Pass a law restricting ammo 20 million effectives left
4. Pass a law outlawing firearms entirely - a few million resist, most don’t. Some violence, but nothing the CNSF can’t handle.


33 posted on 12/01/2008 7:32:28 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: techno

>>”Americans can no longer own private firearms unless they belong to a state militia that is bought and paid for by Obama...”<<

I have a vision that “0bama’s state militia” will resemble the kinds of people that showed up for the “Million Man March”.

If that’s the case, then I suggest taking your next paycheck and spend it all on ammo and replacement parts for your favorite weapon. Eat beans and rice for a couple of weeks and carpool if you have to, but buy ammo before Jan. 20th. You’ll be glad you did.


34 posted on 12/01/2008 7:43:39 PM PST by panaxanax ("Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't." T.Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guns? What guns? Oh, THOSE guns! Sorry; I sold all my guns to private buyers to tide us over the recession!

Names? Uhh, John Smith, Seymour Butts, Moe Szyslak...

Do I mind if you WHAT? Of course I mind! Get a warrent!


35 posted on 12/01/2008 7:48:21 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How did they do it in Germany? In Great Britain? In Australia? How did they ban guns in any of the American cities they've already done it? There are models to use and adapt to our society as a whole. They are methodical. It is done one piece, one city, one state, one gun law at a time. And instead of jumping out of the pot, far too many of frogs don't think the water is warm enough yet.
36 posted on 12/01/2008 7:48:57 PM PST by GBA
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To: Sharrukin
You are a damn fool if you think millions of armed Americans wouldn't fight to the death over this. Just because you might be too much of a coward to fight doesn't mean millions won't.

America without the right to keep and bear arms won't be worth living in and millions know that. They won't go quietly and there aren't enough confiscators to even begin to fight citizens to the death to take away their guns.

37 posted on 12/01/2008 7:49:54 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority ((Barack Obama...stuck on stupid and idle as the world races by him like a bullet train...)
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To: Sharrukin

>>”yeah, but who wants to die?”<<

This guy did.

“Is life so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the cost of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but for me, give me liberty or give me death.”.......Patrick Henry


38 posted on 12/01/2008 7:50:16 PM PST by panaxanax ("Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't." T.Jefferson)
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To: factoryrat

Spent rounds? That will be easy. Check the Congressional obits...


39 posted on 12/01/2008 7:51:56 PM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

“...behind every blade of grass”


40 posted on 12/01/2008 7:52:01 PM PST by panaxanax ("Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't." T.Jefferson)
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