Posted on 11/20/2008 9:21:12 AM PST by Calpernia
I believe we need to do the following:
we need to write to all the governmental official listed in the attachments, including pres Bush, that due to the fact that Mr. Obama refused to provide proof of eligibility (Hawaii allows to issue birth certificates to children of Hawaiian residents, that are born abroad, and issue them based on a statement of one realtive only) , he cannot be certified as President and he cannot receive National Security CIA briefings.
We believe all the Secretaries of State should give Mr. Obama 24 hours to sign the consent for relies of any and all documents, verifying his eligibility, including, but not limited to a certified copy of his original birth certificate with the name and the signature of the doctor and the name of the hospital, certified copy of the birthing records from the hospital noted in the birth certificate, any and all passports with all the immigration stamps, application and registration forms from Columbia university, Harvard college, Occidental College and the schools in Indonesia, that Mr. Obama attended; and official response from the Governments of Great Britain, Kenya and Indonesia in regards to Mr. Obama's citizenship status in those countries. If Mr. Obama refuses to provide such consent, or if the consent is provided, but the documents show him to be ineligible, no Secretary of State and no Governor of State has any legal right to sign the Certificate of Ascertainment, no Elector has any legal right to sign a certificate of vote, since doing so will constitute aiding and abetting fraud in voting and punishable by up to 3 years in jail (California election code 18500) and similarly punishable by corresponding statutes in other states of the union, it possibly can be viewed as aiding and abeting commission of treason.
This has to be forwarded to all the media outlets. We need to write to the media, that American citizens are reasonably relying on them to provide them with information in regards to such issues of National Importance. Refusal by Media to publish information in regards to Mr. Obama's status as a British Citizen by birth and other issues relating to his lack of eligibility to be the President of the US, is de facto aiding and abetting commission of fraud in voting and elections.
I believe we should contact all sponsors and all advertisers and all citizens that believe in the Constitution of this country an demand that they boycott all the media outlets that refuse to air this information that is akin to a Constitutional crisis. We should start a recall of all the Governors and Secretaries of States that sign the certificates of Ascertainment without proof of eligibility. No member of US military can be expected to risk his life under orders of a Commander in Chief, who was not willing to produce proof of his eligibility for office, no order or law signed by somebody, who was not proven to be eligible will be valid. We have to stop this constitutional crisis.
Orly Taitz Esq
Again, this is an email. Not a publication. She emailed us, I posted it. Post 1 and 2 are formal, without typos etc.
Thanks. Notice what I don’t chat posted at 17
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2135374/posts?page=17#17
Bravo, Calpernia. This certainly seems the time for Americans to hit the issue with everything we have. Please be gracious enough to let me join in with you on this thread.
“I was just told by my Senator’s office...it is first sent to Iowa to be ...put through a machine to check for toxic stuff, etc. That would delay the letter, until it is too late.”
That is why I hand delivered my letters at the local level. Was warmly received and assured they would fax it up to DC.
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STAND UP AMERICA! The presidential election is not over!
We voted for electors, not the individual candidates. The electors vote on or after December 15, 2009. The results are then presented to a joint session of Congress and objections may be heard on January 6, 2009.
See the letter on my About page hand-delivered to the local offices of my Republican Senators and Representatives. I urge you to take similar action, even if it is simply mailing a one page letter to Washington, D.C.
Bravo, Calpernia. This certainly seems the time for Americans to hit the issue with everything we have. Please be gracious enough to let me join in with you on this thread.
“I was just told by my Senator’s office...it is first sent to Iowa to be ...put through a machine to check for toxic stuff, etc. That would delay the letter, until it is too late.”
That is why I hand delivered my letters at the local level. Was warmly received and assured they would fax it up to DC.
***********************************************************
STAND UP AMERICA! The presidential election is not over!
We voted for electors, not the individual candidates. The electors vote on or after December 15, 2009. The results are then presented to a joint session of Congress and objections may be heard on January 6, 2009.
See the letter on my About page hand-delivered to the local offices of my Republican Senators and Representatives. I urge you to take similar action, even if it is simply mailing a one page letter to Washington, D.C.
sorry...computer error?
Bookmark!
The piece in post 1 includes the two spelling of Dunham’s name in the same sentence, as well as the amusing reference to “Berg v Obama el all”. It is laughably amateurish. Anyone in my first year law school class who had submitted something like this for the required moot court exercise would have gotten a C or below. It completely fails to identify specific LEGAL issues, fills a lot of space with irrelevant rambling, and uses vague references like “(based on 1952 code)” instead of clear legal citations. It will be received in the spirit of Nigerian e-mail scams, rarely getting past admin assistants whose job is to make sure their bosses don’t get inundated with this sort of garbage.
I’ve been having computer errors too.
A lawyer named Kreep?
Kinda redundant, doncha think?
This is a serious issue, and it should have been formally addressed a long time ago. Personally, I think it’s too late, and ill-advised at this point, to try to pursue the matter. Our enemies around the world want nothing more than to see the US politically destabilized, and that’s the only thing this effort can achieve at this late date. If the documents posted here are representative of the efforts which were begun earlier, back when it wasn’t too late, it’s little wonder the matter wasn’t taken up by courts and elected officials.
Bookmark to send when I get home.
THANK YOU Calpernia for the post.
>>>The piece in post 1 includes the two spelling of Dunham’s name in the same sentence
I don’t see your reference.
Why don’t you add what you consider a proper write up if the ones provided here bother you so much.
Thanks, LucyT and Calpernia
Will get right on this.
“This is a serious issue,...”
Agreed.
“...ill-advised at this point,to pursue the matter.”
“Throw in the towel” flavored Koolaid. The election is not over yet, see my earlier post. Buck up, the Constitution provides political stability.
“Our enemies around the world want nothing more than to see...”
The One sitting as president. Who do you think he was talking to in Europe when he made his “we are the ones we have been waiting for” statement? Clue: he was talking to every socialist in the world, many of whom donated by credit card.
If a dogcatcher can produce a birth certificate why can’t a presidential candidate?
“g. Madelyn Dunham, his maternal grandmother remained silent and never refuted the statements that Mr. Obama was not born in Hawaii and no access was ever allowed to any reporters to ask Mrs. Madelyne Dunham one single question: “in what hospital on Hawaii was Mr. Obama born?’” (and it’s also odd that she is first referred to without a title, and then the “Mrs.” is added for the second reference. This sort of mangled writing is typical of Nigerian e-mail scammers, who randomly throw in lame attempts to sound “formal” in the midst of a general mess of writing.
A “proper write-up” needs to be done by serious legal professionals, putting in some serious time on research, and sticking to facts relevant to a legal case. As I said in another post, I think the time for this is long past. I wish it had been done properly many months ago, because it is an important issue, but it’s water under the bridge at this point, and pursuing it now is only playing into the hands of enemies who want to see the US politically destabilized.
Agree, it should have been address much earlier but it wasn't. Therefore, it must be addressed now and IMHO, it's not too late.
This Country need a good "shaking up". The fact of the matter is something drastic is going to happen, it's just a matter of when. Me thinks it's better to deal with it now rather than later.
Again, JMHO, but what do I know.
>>>A “proper write-up” needs to be done by serious legal professionals
Have a go at it and be our guest. We will be glad to cite and paraphrase your work.
Yes, now that you point it out, there are indeed problems. Starting with “pres. Bush” (sic).
But the style isn’t really Nigerian, just careless.
"There is a reasonable and common expectation by the voters that to qualify for the ballot, the individuals running for office must meet minimum qualifications as outlined in the federal and state Constitutions and statutes, and that compliance with those minimum qualifications has been confirmed by the officials overseeing the election process".
That, although logical, is completely and entirely false.
No candidate for President has EVER gone through the process of verification you are demanding of Obama. The REASON you are demanding it of Obama is, transparently, that you don't like him, you opposed his election, and you don't want him to take office.
This is insufficient cause for any court to intervene. You have an obvious axe to grind, and are abusing process to grind it.
It would be different if candidates since 1788 (or 1988, for that matter)had to go through some such process. But none ever have, and there has been no showing (other than the obvious, that you personally don't like him) why Obama should be treated differently than any other person similarly situated.
Similarly, the "refusal to show a real COLB" is a phony issue. No one in a position of authority to make such a demand has been refused. The only persons who have been refused are Obama's bitter political enemies, who have no authority to demand this in the first place. No one who is arguably entitled to demand this has done so, and until someone does and is refused, this is a completely red herring.
If the positions were reversed, and the Daily KOS were demanding certified copies of Sarah Palin's birth documents, you would want her to tell them to get stuffed, and you'd be right. It is reasonable to infer (and I agree it hasn't been shown to be true) that the State Department didn't issue him a passport without a birth certificate.
This is a dead end. If one Associate Justice votes in conference to hear arguments in what to me is a transparently absurd politically-inspired case, I will be astonished.
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