Posted on 11/20/2008 8:28:49 AM PST by Candor7
On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.
Leo Donofrio's case, "Leo C. Donofrio, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407," regarding Obama's citizenship has reached a new level. The case has been "distributed for conference."
This docketing today by the court should send ripples of fear through the Obama camp. Obama has been proceeding at lightening speed to put together a cabinet and take possession of the White House with the hope that he won't have to answer the question of whether or not he was "at birth" a "natural born citizen."
Every major news network, print and cable news like FOX, CNN and MSNBC, have ignored all the court cases challenging Obama's eligibility as sore losers or conspiracy theories. It might be in their best interest at this point to report this critically important meeting to take place on December 5, 2008, or lose what little credibility they have left.
If four of the nine Justices vote to hear the case in full review, oral argument may be ordered. The conference is scheduled for December 5, 2008, ten days before the meeting of the Electoral College…
The case originally sought, pre-election, to have the names of Barack Obama, John McCain, and Roger Calero removed from New Jersey ballots, and for a stay of the "national election" pending Supreme Court review of whether those candidates were eligible under the Constitution as natural born Citizens, as is required by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States.
Leo Donofrio brought his case from a lower New Jersey court to the NJ Supreme Court -- was denied -- and then he filed an emergency stay application in the United States Supreme Court on Nov. 3, 2008, before the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter. Justice Souter denied the emergency stay application on Nov. 6.
Leo Donofrio renewed the application, as per Supreme Court Rule 22.4, to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas by way of Express mail on Nov. 14. The application arrived at the Supreme Court on Nov. 17 and was submitted directly to Justice Thomas.
On Nov. 19, the case was docketed for full conference of all nine Justices and scheduled for December 5, 2008. It is not known at this time the exact details of how the case came to be "DISTRIBUTED for Conference".
Background on "The Justices Conference" is discussed as follows by the Supreme Court Historical Society:
"No outsider enters the room during conference. The junior Associate Justice acts as "doorkeeper," sending for reference material, for instance, and receiving it at the door...
Five minutes before conference time, 9:30 or 10 a.m., the Justices are summoned. They exchange ritual handshakes and settle down at the long table. The Chief sits at the east end; the other Justices sit at places they have chosen in order of their seniority…
The Chief Justice opens the discussion, summarizing each case. The senior Associate Justice speaks next, and comment passes down the line. To be accepted for review, a case needs only four votes, fewer than the majority required for a decision on the case itself. Counsel for the litigants are directed to submit their printed briefs so that each Justice has a set several weeks before argument.
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Naturalized yes, Natural born, no.
However, the difference between the previous riots and the future ones is that the citizenry didn't resist. With the future of the country and private properties are torched with loss of life, I don't think it will be the same outcome or short duration.
Previous riots were not widely resisted, only police involvement. Future ones will be for different reasons and will have different outcome, unfortunately.
If the document proves Obama is a citizen then that is that. But if the document proves him to be not eligible then onus is placed squarely in Obama's court. Obama and the Democrats would be responsible for any civil unrest that may occur!
Thank you for this wonderful post, Candor7
Ping.
Hey, any FReeper who has time on board here has had that experience ... many of us several times.
I've seen this too. Eyes are the window to the soul.
Something in Obama's soul is uneasy. I've never seen that look on the face of someone who's just won the presidency.
LOL, I am so sorry!!
It’s worst than that, I was thinking the whole city of Chicago was in Ohio today. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. Well, maybe Iran.
People with delusional mental illness can seem very earnest and credible at first. It’s only when their delusions are challenged, e.g. when they promise “proof” they can’t deliver, that the veil starts to drop and they start ranting.
API is an interesting case study.
The first question is whether SCOTUS has the power to compel the NJ Secretary of State to demand proof of Obama’s place of birth. If the answer to that is “no,” the Court does not need to consider any other question.
Wow, thanks Faith.
That is the best reasoning I have heard as to why Obama has not revealed his citizen status.
Well, Roberts, Scalia and Thomas are all part of the Holy Cross mafia (Roberts' wife, Scalia's son and Thomas himself all went to college there), so I'm hopeful they can exert influence on Alito to join them on this.
January 8, 2009 * Counting Electoral Votes in Congress Public Law 110-430 changed the date of the electoral vote in Congress in 2009 from January 6 to January 8. This date change is effective only for the 2008 presidential election. The Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes (Congress may pass a law to change the date). The President of the Senate is the presiding officer. If a Senator and a House member jointly submit an objection, each House would retire to its chamber to consider it. The President and Vice President must achieve a majority of electoral votes (270) to be elected. In the absence of a majority, the House selects the President, and the Senate selects the Vice President. If a State submits conflicting sets of electoral votes to Congress, the two Houses acting concurrently may accept or reject the votes. If they do not concur, the votes of the electors certified by the Governor of the State would be counted in Congress.
(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
From what I understand of what I've read about the laws pertaining to citizenship status at the time of Obama's birth, his mother could not have conferred "natural born" citizenship status on him, if he were indeed born outside the territorial US.
I've also read that more recent laws about citizenship are not retroactive, therefore, the laws which were in place at the time of Obama's birth are what determine his status.
Obama's mother would have had to have been a citizen of the US for a period of five years after the age of fourteen, for her to have conferred US citizenship on her son, which she was not. She was 18 years of age at his birth.
There. Fixed it for you.
You’ve got me on this one. What does attending Holy Cross have to do with anything?
Yes, the damage from an 0bama presidency will indeed be worse than the short term damage done by the rioters.
Thanks, LucyT
Obama will forever be defined by arrogance & hubris of power and greed.
Will the Supreme Court of the United States stand firm to protect the Constitution of the United States and expose his devious lies for everyone to see?
It is fraud perpetuated at the highest levels, and those who have been complicit should also be exposed.
Wake up, America!
Aw man, get with the program, would ya?
Repeat after me: It's All Bush's Fault!
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