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Lead bullets under fire
Casper Star Tribune ^ | 6 Nov 08 | CHRIS MERRILL

Posted on 11/07/2008 2:47:27 AM PST by SLB

LANDER -- People in Wyoming and North Dakota received mixed messages this week about eating animals killed with lead bullets.

North Dakota health officials recommended on Thursday that pregnant women and young children avoid eating meat from wild game that was shot with lead ammunition.

But an official with the Wyoming Department of Health said the Cowboy State will not be issuing the same warning to its residents, because state epidemiologists believe the effects are "very unlikely to be clinically significant."

The same afternoon, an advocacy group for the firearms industry called the North Dakota alert "scientifically unfounded rhetoric."

The North Dakota recommendation is based on a federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study, released Wednesday, that examined the blood lead levels in more than 700 state residents.

Those who ate wild game killed with lead bullets seemed statistically to have higher lead levels than those who ate little or no wild game.

The elevated levels were not considered dangerous, but North Dakota says pregnant women and children younger than 6 should avoid eating venison harvested with lead bullets.

Lead poisoning can cause learning problems and convulsions, and in severe cases can lead to brain damage and death.

The CDC study is the first to connect lead traces in game with higher lead levels in the blood of game eaters, said Dr. Stephen Pickard, a CDC epidemiologist who works with the state health department.

A separate study by Minnesota's Department of Natural Resources previously found that fragments from lead bullets spread as far as 18 inches from the wound.

"Nobody was in trouble from the lead levels," Pickard said. However, "the effect was small but large enough to be a concern," he said.

Pickard said the study found "the more recent the consumption of wild game harvested with lead bullets, the higher the level of lead in the blood."

The vast majority hunters in the United States use lead ammo.

But Dr. Tracy Murphy, the state epidemiologist with the Wyoming Department of Health, said he's reviewed the study, and Wyoming will not be issuing a similar warning about lead ammo to Cowboy State residents.

"From looking at the study, the increase that they showed is very small and very unlikely to be clinically significant," Murphy said. "Now that doesn't mean that somebody's eating habits couldn't make it clinically significant, but in this study it doesn't appear to be."

Pregnant women and parents with small children should be aware of the possibility that eating hunter-killed meat could cause a small increase in blood lead levels, he said. So, if other factors in their lives are elevating lead levels as well, it might then be "cause for concern," Murphy said.

For people seeking guidance on this issue, Murphy said: "I don't see anything in this study that would lead us to make any concrete recommendations against eating it."

The Wyoming Department of Health had several epidemiologists examine the CDC report, and so far they all concur on this, he said.

"It's possible more information may come out that will show a more significant problem; that certainly is a possibility, and we'll keep monitoring it," Murphy said.

A scare tactic?

The National Shooting Sports Foundation, which advocates for the firearms and ammunition industries, issued a statement Thursday in response to the North Dakota announcement.

The statement argued that the CDC study shows "no evidence that lead or 'traditional' ammunition pose any health risk to those who consume game-harvested meat."

The statement continued: "The CDC report on human lead levels of hunters in North Dakota has confirmed what hunters throughout the world have known for hundreds of years, that traditional ammunition poses no health risk to people, and that the call to ban lead ammunition was nothing more than a scare tactic being pushed by anti-hunting groups."

The Foundation noted the average lead level of the hunters tested in the study was lower than that of the average American.

When asked if that claim is true, Dr. Murphy said it was the case.

The lead levels of children under 6 in the study were an average of just 0.88, the Foundation added, which is less than half the national average: "Children over 6 had even lower lead levels. The CDC's level of concern for lead in children is 10."

Murphy said these claims are also true, for the most part.

"There was good evidence that the pediatric levels were not particularly alarming," Murphy said. "As for that last part, there's kind of a gray area about lead levels in children. The so-called action level is officially 10, but there is plenty of evidence that children can have some impaired neurological development at levels less than 10, so you kind of have to look at the individual. You don't want to say that everything is fine unless it's 10."

The Peregrine Fund, a conservation organization that advocates for birds of prey, touted the results of this CDC study as further proof hunters should switch to copper bullets.

The Peregrine Fund has worked to convince hunters to stop using lead bullets since it was discovered that endangered California Condors have died from lead poisoning after ingesting carcasses and "gut piles" from hunter-killed game animals.

Rick Watson, vice president of the Peregrine Fund, said in a media release on Wednesday: "When the extent of the lead problem for condors became clear, we began to wonder if people who eat venison shot with lead bullets might also be exposed to the toxic heavy metal. We are not anti-hunting. Our agenda is solely to restore California Condors to the wild where they may be enjoyed by future generations."

In North Dakota, the health department ordered food pantries to throw out donated venison this week. Some groups that organize venison donations have called such actions premature and unsupported by science.

For his part, Murphy said the Wyoming Department of Health would like people to be aware that handling lead and being exposed to lead can cause elevated levels. Hunters and shooters should be careful when reloading lead bullets, he said, and they should try to avoid ingesting any lead.

"Probably the biggest risk would be from reloading," he said. "You can get lead residue on your hands, so don't eat or smoke until you wash the residue off."

And when handling lead ammo, people should try not to create dust that they inhale, he said.

Contact environment reporter Chris Merrill at (307) 267-6722 or chris.merrill@trib.com


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Buy your ammunition while you can. You can never have too much.
1 posted on 11/07/2008 2:47:28 AM PST by SLB
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To: SLB

The real solution, if lead rounds are a problem, is to let us use more health-friendly steel-core rounds. Wait, you say those were banned by the Democrats?


2 posted on 11/07/2008 2:48:58 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Lion Den Dan; Squantos; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; FreedomPoster

Something else for big brother to proclaim we don’t need as “he” knows what is best for us.


3 posted on 11/07/2008 2:49:01 AM PST by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: SLB
Working on it. Plus, I'm buying more "toys" to put them in. I getting this beauty when he gets more in stock:

www.hendersondefense.com
4 posted on 11/07/2008 2:53:49 AM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: SLB; Joe Brower

BLOAT. Then BLOAT some more.

This sort of thing is how the Dems will work infringements on the upcoming go-around. They’ve been burned on direct assaults, so they’ll be trying round-about approaches.


5 posted on 11/07/2008 2:54:47 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: SLB
I thought I read a study (not sure if it was by the CDC) that lead core ammunition also posed a significant health risk to certain politicians who support the side of tyranny.
6 posted on 11/07/2008 2:56:26 AM PST by CapnJack
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To: SLB

They already have banned lead shot in several states, requiring bismuth or steel shot... and now there are “concerns” about the “health effects” of the bismuth shot...


7 posted on 11/07/2008 2:57:19 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SLB

The level of lead in the blood that are considered harmless by the CDC is truly miniscule. If the level of lead caused by eating game harvested with lead bullets is significantly less than that, it must be very, very miniscule.

I suspect the CDC just got themselves a fancy new low-level GCMS/AA and is looking at the parts-per-trillion level. All sorts of mischief can arise as limits of detection fall, including nonsense like this.

Just because something can be detected does not mean it is a problem. Everybody in the country probably had a blood lead level a thousand times what they are talking about here, back when we used to put lead in paint and motor fuel.


8 posted on 11/07/2008 3:03:00 AM PST by gridlock (18 Million Democrats voted for Hillary in the primaries. Are they all racists?)
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To: SLB

Should somebody tell them to stop eating the bullets after they shoot the animal?


9 posted on 11/07/2008 3:04:22 AM PST by rjamesca
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To: SLB

Sounds like the Governor of North Dakota needs to come down like a ton of bricks on the Health Department. If he refuses to do so, the voters should come down like a ton of bricks on the Governor.

This is political nonsense dressed up as science. The Health Department is trying to create a scare where no cause exists. There is enough to worry about in this World without making stuff up.


10 posted on 11/07/2008 3:07:21 AM PST by gridlock (18 Million Democrats voted for Hillary in the primaries. Are they all racists?)
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To: SLB

Switch to the Barnes X bullet. All copper and supposed to be very lethal.


11 posted on 11/07/2008 3:11:35 AM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: FreedomPoster

Hey, North Dakota!

Are you feeling suddenly "blue"?

You have nobody to blame but yourselves!

12 posted on 11/07/2008 3:13:21 AM PST by gridlock (18 Million Democrats voted for Hillary in the primaries. Are they all racists?)
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Lead- it’s the new Mercury...

Seriously, what else does anybody expect, with the New Messiah elected?

All the anti-freedom kooks will feel empowered, and come out of the woodwork— just like they did with Clinton.

All Gay Garbage...

All Abortion...

All Sensible Gun Regulations...

...all the time.


13 posted on 11/07/2008 3:25:33 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trakball into the Sunset of America...)
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To: SLB

The lefties love entitlements, angry slogans, and demands, so here goes:

We demand equal access to government surplus depleted uranium rounds in a diversity of calibers NOW!


14 posted on 11/07/2008 3:38:37 AM PST by BobbyT
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To: SLB

“The vast majority hunters in the United States use lead ammo. “

yep,

jacket\
lead>>>>
jacket/

Wondering if the milliseconds a jacketed lead projectile spends in game is actually long enough to leach. Game birds are a different matter, and as tasty as they are, don’t think of them as a staple food.

by the by, shot, from game prepared as food is where we get the “shot glass” from. A polite way to spit out the shot at the table.

Hold’em and squeeze’em


15 posted on 11/07/2008 3:41:49 AM PST by petro45acp (Hunkered down in occupied Virginia!)
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Those who ate wild game killed with lead bullets seemed statistically to have higher lead levels

They didn't mention fish killed with lead bullets, so I guess I'm safe...

16 posted on 11/07/2008 3:51:11 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SLB
"Something else for big brother to proclaim we don’t need as “he” knows what is best for us.

Yep. There you go. If memory serves, this same crap surfaced at the time Clinton was first stepping into the White House himself. Newspapers and airwaves filled with "Scare Mommy" stories about everything from the dangers of allowing your children to play little league baseball, riding bicycles bareheaded, lead poisoning from crystal stemware and Mikasa...as my wife finally said, "Hey! Wait a minute. I'm NOT giving up my Waterford crystal or Mikasa place settings!"
17 posted on 11/07/2008 4:13:25 AM PST by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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To: Vinnie

in rifle rounds i can use a barnes, accuracy is great with them, but no way could i use them in my pistols. i shoot 3-4000 rounds a year just of .44, and at $1/ bullet, i can’t afford that much. i’ll stick to my lead rounds that run about $.10 each.


18 posted on 11/07/2008 4:16:34 AM PST by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: SLB
This is almost as shocking as the number of people that die each year having digested dihydrogen monoxide. Millions are exposed daily and yet the government does nothing.
19 posted on 11/07/2008 4:18:18 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 3)
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To: Spktyr
Can you name the States? Lead is banned for water fowl shooting for obvious reasons. Oh and in Kalifornia all lead bullets are banned in Condor Kountry.
20 posted on 11/07/2008 4:19:52 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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