Posted on 10/08/2008 5:03:05 AM PDT by Gorilla44
A national voter-registration group admitted to Cuyahoga County election officials Tuesday that it cannot eliminate fraud from its operation.
The group blamed inefficiency and lack of resources for problems such as being unable to spot duplicate voter-registration cards or cards that may have been filled out by workers to make quotas.
The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, has turned in at least 65,000 cards to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections in the last year. The board has investigated potentially fraudulent cards since August.
The group has faced similar inquiries in other large Ohio counties. And Nevada state authorities recently raided ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters searching for evidence of fraud, according to the Associated Press.
Local representatives of the organization told Cuyahoga board members that they don't have the resources to identify fraudulent cards turned in by paid canvassers who are told to register low- and moderate-income voters.
Cuyahoga election workers flagged about 50 names on suspicious cards. The cards were to register the same names, raising the possibility that canvassers shared information when trying to make quotas.
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Kris Harsh, ACORN's head Cleveland organizer, blamed the elections board for not scrutinizing ACORN's suspicious cards. He said the group can't be expected to catch everything.
(Excerpt) Read more at blog.cleveland.com ...
In OTHER news: Humans are a flawed species!
Lot of guys named Will Power that live in that county. Like all of them.
I guess the Devil makes them do it.
Addiction to fraud: The new personality disorder.
Aw come on - insisting that voters show photo ID would go a long way toward REDUCING fraud!
they better investigate the world
Actually, it’s the legislatures’ faults (and OUR faults for electing legislators that put and keep lousy voter registration laws on the books) for allowing voter registration to be done anywhere by anyone. The only way to register to vote should be by directly contacting your local elections board and obtaining a registration form directly from them, pre-filled out with the information you gave them in writing, and taking or mailing it directly back to them. There should be no such thing as blank registration forms that can be passed around by anyone and filled out by anyone. And it should be illegal to pay anyone for registering voters (other than the salaried staff of the elections board), just as it is illegal to pay anyone for voting.
Then I suppose the “rule of law” cannot be completely vigilante-free.
The punishment for federal election fraud should be death.
Tampering with the most basic element of our freedom should carry the maximum allowable punishment
And so far about 64,000 of them have turned out to be fraudulent...
Yes, they can make it fraud free, they just don’t want to.
Well, having quotas is a start to fraud. Existing at all is the other part.
Cloward-Piven Strategy.
This isn’t traditional ballot-box stuffing. This is an attempt to clog and cripple the system itself. ACORN’s purpose is to set the stage for rioting. Just as the ultimate purpose of the CRA and Fannie and Freddie is to destroy the financial system—not to put minorities into homes.
Cloward-Piven Strategy.
This isn’t traditional ballot-box stuffing. This is an attempt to clog and cripple the system itself. ACORN’s purpose is to set the stage for rioting. Just as the ultimate purpose of the CRA and Fannie and Freddie is to destroy the financial system—not to put minorities into homes.
That would cut down on the number of local "humanitarians" who take time from their busy schedules to drive vans between area care facilities and the polls once every four years.
Fewer socialists, less traffic... what's not to like?
Mr. niteowl77
So would using the original system of only allowing property owners the ability to vote.
Translation: they need more of our taxpayer dollars.
Make the penalty for voter fraud high enough (and I'm talking hard prison time for depriving other citizens of their civil rights) and voter fraud will grid to a halt.
If we don't have the will to defend our civil rights, then we'll richly deserve everything we got (or, more accurately, everything that will be taken from us).
Typical liberal mentality, “It’s gonna happen anyway, why should we try to stop it?”.
Yeah but you’re not advocating for that are you?
ACORN could be the undoing of our republic and democracy. It seems to have almost unlimited resources from the US Government (for crying out loud!) and other far left groups to register felons, assorted low-life sponges, dead people, non-existent people and individuals multiple times. Then our governments at all levels do not have the resources to verify the voter registrations turned in by these people.
The only way to truly save our republic is to repeal Motor Voter, not allow same-day registration and voting, put ACORN out of business, thoroughly cleanse ALL voter rolls across the nation and enforce strict voter ID at the poll. This would strengthen our citizens’ conviction that voting was fair and not rigged. Without these reforms, we are rapidly plummeting towards third-world Kenya style riots after every every presidential election. Unfortunately, with a communist in the WH, things could rapidly shift towards Soviet style elections where the dear leader received 99% of the vote.
He is trying to confuse the difference between error-free or mistake-free and fraud-free. One is deliberate with an intended purpose, the other isn't. While mistakes are difficult to eliminate, fraud is a matter of integrity.
Voter fraud is totally preventable. No early voting; absentee voting for military and citizens overseas on election day only. Vote on election day only, with picture ID; no exceptions. Dip the finger in ink so a voter can only vote one time. That should take care of the problem.
I like this one. Everytime the idiots in Washington change something in the constitution, chaos is the usual result.
Why not?
IMHO, if a person doesn't have the drive and capacity to purchase a piece of property, how could they have earned the ability to vote?
After all, it's human nature to have more respect for something that is earned over something that is bestowed.
[Plus, it makes it easy to discover fraud..... just check the property tax rolls]
To me, this is why voting should be “hard”. One day-only registration in advance. No early voting. Photo ID at polling location. Absentee approved only with legitimate reason (military, college, overseas jobs, etc).
Iraqi’s faced the thread of bullets and bombs. American’s are worried about traffic, long lines, and cutting into their lunch hour.
Why aren’t these people in jail ?
Exactly! Just examine the current meltdown of our [fiat] monetary system for a shining example.
</sarcasm>Ping
Thats something we should be asking our representives. We need to hold their feet to the fire and not let them weazel out of it with a canned answer. In the next 3 weeks, there will be lots of debates, townhall meetings, etc on the state level. We should all try to attend these and ask this question. ACORN should not be allowed to participate in registering voters any longer. People should only be allowed to register via the state election board. We need to push our reps on this. When people get caught shoplifting from a store, they are banned from the store. ACORN gets caught in voter regristration fraud, they should be banned from registering voters.
And they get 36 days or some outrageous crap to try and rush the line and slip by. How in the world can a responsible democracy allow people to vote that far out? So much could change to cause you to change your vote. And there’s so much more time for cheaters to try and succeed by probing for weak points to exploit. Whoever conservative in OH who allowed these voting rules is not competent to lead.
Did you see Obama’s communication director on Hannity last night? He’s a thug. These guys make the Clintons look rather tame.
In states where ACORN filed fradulent ballots, it should be required that anyone attempting to vote a suspect name will be held until the end of voting election day and will be charged with a felony, unless they can provide picture id and proof of their name and address.
Bookmarked. Again.
ACORN commits voter registration fraud. Again.
Democrat Sec of State = “no fraud”. Again.
ACORN claims they cannot stop voter registration fraud. Again.
Do you see a pattern here?
This is why Ohio is a complete loss. Hundreds of thousands of students will be voting multiple times.
Not registering and voting on the same day would do it better. So if it can’t be 100% fraud free, they think they should just let it go???
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