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Obama Lied About Vote Against Live-Birth Abortion Ban, Media Mum
MND ^ | August 14, 2008 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 08/16/2008 7:17:57 AM PDT by Bushwacker777

"Jill Stanek has done yeoman’s work on uncovering the fact that Barack Obama and his surrogates have been outright lying about Obama’s constant votes against the Live-Birth abortion bills when he was in office in the State legislature. His claims have been a staple of Old Media reports from the beginning, but now that Stanek has revealed the truth we will have to see if the Old Media corrects the record or if they suddenly just go mum on the subject like they have so far.

The Born-Alive Infants Protection Act (BAIPA) both in the Illinois and Federal legislatures was meant to make illegal death by neglect of born but unwanted infants. These bills were opposed by the bulk of the Democrat Party because of the fact that the original bills could have been construed to say that a pre-birth fetus was a “person” that was protected by law. So, the bill in Congress was altered to address that concern by adding a “neutrality clause” that made it clear that the bill would not protect a fetus in utero.

As Obama continues to tell the tale, as a State Senator he said he voted against the Illinois bill because the Federal “neutrality clause” was not included and that therefore he could not support the Illinois bill. Turns out he is not telling the truth about this fact. Even worse, he knows better because he was part of the legislative committee that added that very “neutrality clause” to the very bill he voted against in 2003."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; baipa; bornalive; coverup; demlies; election; electionpresident; elections; infanticide; obama; obamarecord; partisanmedia
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On one story printed here about Obama's denial of claims he was against assisting live babies surviving abortion the MSN source was parroting the official Obama campaign page so much that if it had been a college paper the professor would have thrown it in the garbage. It seems the MSM considers it investigative journalism that when something is said negative about Obama all you need to do is go to the Obama campaign page and print what Obama says without questioning it.
1 posted on 08/16/2008 7:17:58 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Bushwacker777
A bump, and story attached to help the truth along...

Nobama, hey clown, I'm speaking to you - ya, the lying one. You kind of remind me of the Clinton's, and their dead body count of "associates". Well let me make good on this, we are all waiting with baited breath, as to how you saw it, - vs reality. Reality is a line away here on FR...

Here is a video of Stanek telling about this procedure, with a dramatization of nurses leaving a newborn child to die on a table in a storeroom.

"Kill and Destroy" Synopsis:
Featuring an interview with Jill Stanek, "Kill and Destroy" explores Barack Hussein Obama's support of infanticide in Illinois, an alarming decision that was opposed by every Democrat and Republican in the U.S. Senate.

"What does it take to make a man a monster any more?" Illuminati Pictures president Molotov Mitchell recently wrote. "If Americans can watch this video and still support Barack Obama, then America is...beyond all hope."




I don't know about you, but when I heard Stanek tell about the cold-hearted deaths of these children, I felt a heavy chill. I spent several years in law enforcement, so I've seen some pretty cold, heartless behavior; still, this left me moved in a heart-wrenching way.

How even the most strident abortion advocate can defend a practice like this still claim to retain a measure of humanity is beyond my ability to comprehend.

And millions of Americans are considering electing such a man President of the United States...

2 posted on 08/16/2008 7:25:26 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Obamacide - how to kill a nation in one easy election.)
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To: Bushwacker777

Anyone who advocates the murder of babies already born or unborn, has their brains and hearts sucked out...

I(f Obama doesnt care about tiny babies, even black babies, how could he be trusted with the lives of full grown American men and women ???

and the men and women of our armed forces ???

Would he lead in the protection the American population in a crisis ???

or leave us to our enemies to be “aborted” ????????


3 posted on 08/16/2008 7:29:52 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Bushwacker777

Obama lies and the media covers for Him???? I am shocked. Shocked, I tell ya.


4 posted on 08/16/2008 7:31:43 AM PDT by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Bushwacker777

bttt


5 posted on 08/16/2008 7:32:10 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Osama and Obama both have friends that have bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: Bushwacker777

I heard her talking about how she started out in this.

She found how inhuman it was that babies were left to die alone in a room, I can’t remember what it was called. She started holding the babies until they died. Up to 45 min. for one. Their tiny lungs could not make it.


6 posted on 08/16/2008 7:32:43 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Bushwacker777
It should no longer surprise us when we see the blatant worship of the democrat party's most recent demigod, Barack Hussein Obama; the democrat party has been empowering their political ghoulary through slaughter of the alive unborn for decades now.

The demonic democrat rites of killing alive unborn human beings are protected, in the democrat mind, the twisted, democrat voter mind.

Barry Obama is a lazy legislator with no fear of God and will be a lazy president should he get elected. His laziness is precisely what the Pelosi-Reid power structure desires in the White House.

Barack is a dead-soul leftist, nothing more. As such he is the 'feel-good' candidate for voters who long ago lost their spiritual way and have been returning these democrat ghouls to leadership cycle after cycle, thus democrat voters have become complicit to the max in the abortion holocaust. Jill Stanek is courageous to speak out, and she will be vilified by the sycophantic democrat propaganda media whoredom for telling the truth about this dead soul leftist, Barack HUSSEIN OBama.

The recently released Jerome Corsi book, Obama Nation, has a very damning section on Obama's demigoguing the issues we deem 'pro-life/anti-life'. Corsi highlights several points (pages 237 - 240):

1) On March 30, 2001 Obama was the ONLY Illinois senator who rose to speak against a bill that would protect babies who survive late-term abortion

2) In 1997 Obama voted in the Illinois Senate AGAINST a bill designed to prevent partial birth killing of alive, sensing unborn children

3) Obama has consistently voted to expand embryonic stem cell exploitation

4) Obama has consistently voted against requiring minors to notify their parents if they seek or obtain an out of state abortion

5) Obama is a zealous supporter of planned parenthood which operates the greatest percentage of their killing clinics in black and under privileged neighborhoods

6) Obama has told Planned Parenthood that if he is elected president he will prevent opponents of Roe v Wade from being appointed to the Supreme Court

7) Obama has consistently ignored the FACT of the great harm abortion has done to the African-American communities

7 posted on 08/16/2008 7:34:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

“She started holding the babies until they died. Up to 45 min. for one. Their tiny lungs could not make it.”

That is so sad.


8 posted on 08/16/2008 7:36:10 AM PDT by Canedawg
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To: Bushwacker777

Dr. Corsi makes the point in his book Obama Nation that the senator misses a very important fact about abortion — blacks comprise 13% of US population, yet they account for 37% of all abortions.

Obama is helping kill the very people he claims to be representing.


9 posted on 08/16/2008 7:36:35 AM PDT by Ben Reyes
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To: Tennessee Nana

While most dems use tortured (non)logic to justify the removal of “tissue”, Kerry was one of the few pro-choice politicians who also admits that he believes life begins at conception.

But he’s pro abortion anyway!

This makes him the worst kind of monter imaginable, and yet millions voted for him.

It will be no different for Obama voters on this revelation.


10 posted on 08/16/2008 7:38:21 AM PDT by Carlucci (Online polls aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on.)
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To: Canedawg

It goes beyond sad. It is heart-wrenching and disgusting. The fact that anyone would defend such a practice is horrifying. Absolutely horrifying.


11 posted on 08/16/2008 7:43:12 AM PDT by KansasGirl ( b/c Obama is just creepy.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Meaning if the baby had been put in a premmie unit with oxygen etc he or she would had had a a fighting chance to make it...

That’s murder...

If I dont get medical attention for my sick and dying child and she dies, I go to prison for 2nd degree murder/manslaughter...


12 posted on 08/16/2008 7:51:40 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Carlucci

About 25 years ago, I called an abortion mill and said I was 16 and pregnant...

I said that some people had been showing me pictures of dead aborted babies and saying the babies were the result of aborions...

The “lady” on the phone gasped and denounced “the people” as liars and “wicked” “evil” “etc”...

and the pics as fake...

I was told that all I had was tissue...

“if you had a bad appendics wouldnt you want it removed ? Well it’s much the same. Just some tissue you dont need ...”

Seems the same story is told today...


13 posted on 08/16/2008 7:59:29 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
If I dont get medical attention for my sick and dying child and she dies, I go to prison for 2nd degree murder/manslaughter...

There are so many contradictions in abortion it can make your head spin. That what happened when you do not heel moral law.

The Lord will make this Country pay for its sins, or perhaps He's making us pay now.

14 posted on 08/16/2008 8:07:28 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: Tennessee Nana
If I dont get medical attention for my sick and dying child and she dies, I go to prison for 2nd degree murder/manslaughter...

Exactly.

15 posted on 08/16/2008 8:07:37 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Issaquahking

Jill Stanek will be a guest on Sean “Hannity’s America” tonight on Fox. Barak seemingly doesn’t want a baby to live under any circumstances. A shame that he has two daughters.


16 posted on 08/16/2008 8:09:01 AM PDT by Invictus
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To: Las Vegas Ron
That what happens when you do not heed moral law.

ooops

17 posted on 08/16/2008 8:09:11 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: Bushwacker777
Many years ago, during the beginning of the individual States Roe v. Wade debates I was a lib.
I supported abortion.

One evening I was watching the Local PBS channel and a Fla. State legisture hearing on the subject.

A nurse was giving testimony exactly like this,ie. live births thrown into plastic buckets and left to die, then tossed w/ the trash.

That was my 180 deg. change on the abortion issue. The thought of tossing babies, human babies in the trash to die turned my stomach. and still does.

I simply can't imagine a human being condoning that.

18 posted on 08/16/2008 8:17:08 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Invictus
Wonder if Nobama and his lovely wife have ever had an abortion? I ask because it would be true to character of the communist China philosophy of two per couple. Inquiring minds want to know about evil presidential candidates...
19 posted on 08/16/2008 8:21:33 AM PDT by Issaquahking (Obamacide - how to kill a nation in one easy election.)
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To: Issaquahking

The two Obama children are both girls - also not in favor as much as boys in China - I believe in earlier days, girl babies were aborted or disposed of after birth.


20 posted on 08/16/2008 8:27:41 AM PDT by imintrouble
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