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Teacher lets Morningside students vote out classmate, 5 (berates disabled kid in front of class)
TC Palm ^ | 5/24/08 | Colleen Wixon

Posted on 05/25/2008 1:36:54 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: Coldwater Creek; tickles; Randy Larsen; rawhide; GadareneDemoniac; afraidfortherepublic; ...
By a 14 to 2 margin, the students voted Alex — who is in the process of being diagnosed with autism — out of the class.

"Rawhide" is right. The kid MAY have autism. Even if he does does that give him the right to ruin the class?

21 posted on 05/25/2008 3:29:20 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: rawhide
I agree with you. The kid is the problem. Not the teacher. The teacher is limited in what she can do.

You will find on these autism threads that a kid with autism should be allowed to disrupt the world and we should just keep our mouths shut about it.

22 posted on 05/25/2008 3:32:35 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: LibWhacker

How horrible for this poor kid. I think this teacher watched one too many episodes of Survivor.


23 posted on 05/25/2008 3:33:35 AM PDT by txlurker
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To: raybbr

“Even if he does does that give him the right to ruin the class?”

Didn’t say it did. But is that any excuse to allow a bunch of 5-year olds to vote against one of their peers?

Let me ask you what such a vote could accomplish. Could it actually expel him from the class? No. Could it be brought up as credible evidence in a board meeting? No.

Could it devestate the emotional well-being of a child?

Absolutely.


24 posted on 05/25/2008 3:34:43 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: alexander_busek; tickles
What's an IEP? More money is spent on a particular child! If drugging them doesn't work, then they can kick them into an IEP, and sweep them under the rug!

No child left behind, ya' know! It goes along with the new Mandatory Psychological testing programs...

Don't ya' just luv Amerika?

25 posted on 05/25/2008 3:37:54 AM PDT by WVKayaker ( "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome..." I. Asimov)
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To: CaspersGh0sts

Exactly...I can’t imagine what this teacher thought she would accomplish by singling out this kid and ridiculing him in front of his class. In many ways, five year olds are still babies. He shouldn’t be allowed to disrupt the class, but there were many other ways this could have been handled. The teacher is an idiot.


26 posted on 05/25/2008 3:40:04 AM PDT by txlurker
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To: CaspersGh0sts
Could it devestate the emotional well-being of a child?

My eye! Maybe he'll learn to stop being a jerk. Why are we so afraid to teach children a lesson in humility?

27 posted on 05/25/2008 3:40:48 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: rawhide

“Perhaps,”
This loone was using a frigen TV survivor show tactics to teach....she needs to be fired!


28 posted on 05/25/2008 3:40:50 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Coldwater Creek
Bull S#%T...acceptance and per pressure play an enormous roll in development
29 posted on 05/25/2008 3:42:55 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: snarks_when_bored

btt


30 posted on 05/25/2008 3:45:43 AM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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To: raybbr
Maybe he'll learn to stop being a jerk. Why are we so afraid to teach children a lesson in humility?

He is five years old. The only lesson this kid learned was that he was singled out for ridicule. Good grief...how cold hearted can one be?

31 posted on 05/25/2008 3:52:51 AM PDT by txlurker
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To: samtheman

My kid was bullied for no reason - in a parochial school, no less! We enrolled him in a martial arts school to learn Kung Fu and it has helped tremendously. He is now 16, has an adult’s green belt, and is an assistant instructor working towards that ultimate achievement, the black belt.

Socialization: when I first started home schooling, I heard it a lot - about how he wouldn’t be properly socialized. Well, that’s bull! Why should he be socialized with children who use drugs and have emotional problems, when he or she can develope a closer, respectful relationship with his parents and siblings through home schooling?

We went on plenty of field trips to all sorts of places. He enjoyed it all and has become a well balanced person who gets along well with most people he meets, including adults.

He has been going to the Kung Fu Academy four times a week. Part of the course is dedicated to teaching the kids good character traits as well as staying away from drugs. I highly recommend schools associated with the martial arts.


32 posted on 05/25/2008 3:56:11 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately desiring a conservative government.)
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To: SatinDoll

I agree with you about martial arts. I think the personal traits learned extend to other areas of life.


33 posted on 05/25/2008 3:59:12 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: txlurker
The only lesson this kid learned was that he was singled out for ridicule.

For good reason.

Amazing. Focusing on one child and forgetting the other 14. How do you know what problems he's caused them?

This is what is destroying the U.S. The idea that one person's needs will be put above the other fourteen.

34 posted on 05/25/2008 4:03:24 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: alexander_busek
So an IEP determined that this child's best placement is in a class of 'normal' children. Because he has an IEP, he gets this special world created for him. The other children are just pawns to be used to create an ideal learning environment for one child.

What about the rest of the children. Where is their IEP? Is their ideal 'least restrictive' environment in a class disturbed by a child with autism? Why are we handicapping a class full of children to benefit one?

35 posted on 05/25/2008 4:05:23 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: LibWhacker

We are only hearing one side of this. This teacher was found to not have done anything terribly wrong, so I think there is another side. Maybe no discipline at home, and the kid can not handle it when it is necessary.


36 posted on 05/25/2008 4:13:18 AM PDT by John D
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To: raybbr
You will find on these autism threads that a kid with autism should be allowed to disrupt the world and we should just keep our mouths shut about it.

I agree. You will hear all these do-gooders screaming about the teacher, hurting this kids emotions. That is until one of these discipline problems hurts or disrupts their little Johnny. Then it will be "Why didn't the teacher use some discipline?"
37 posted on 05/25/2008 4:21:53 AM PDT by John D
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As the father of a child with Autism I feel I need to address this thread...

I understand the argument that one child should not be allowed to hold back the achievements of others. But I do not believe that is the issue here.

There are diagnosis and procedures that need to be applied then followed. This is the educational equivalent of “The Rule of Law”. Much like evidence must be gathered and a trial held in a legal case.

This teacher has done a scaled down version of Rev. Al getting a bunch of like minded animals to burn down a store and kill someone.

Without “The Rule of Law” democracy is nothing but demagoguery, anarchy, and mob rule.

This teacher was a bully. There was absolutely no point to this exercise besides trying to look popular to her other students and belittling a possibly mentally disabled child that may not be responsible for his behavior.

‘nough said.

38 posted on 05/25/2008 4:24:07 AM PDT by Lost Dutchman ("Weep for the future Na'Toth, Weep for us all." (G'Kar-Babylon 5))
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To: raybbr
Amazing. Focusing on one child and forgetting the other 14. How do you know what problems he's caused them?

This is what is destroying the U.S. The idea that one person's needs will be put above the other fourteen.

Wow....how do you make the conclusion that singling out a five year old for ridicule is what is destroying the US. I am not suggesting that this kid is some angel. He may have caused problems in class. If that is the case, this teacher should have gotten the principle involved and together with his parents, come up with the appropriate discipline. Her method of punishment may end up damaging the child emotionally. And what message did it send to the other kids? Perhaps, if the whole class doesn't like me, I will get voted out too. Better to be a sheep...

39 posted on 05/25/2008 4:25:24 AM PDT by txlurker
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To: LibWhacker
Hmmm... This could have been a good exercise in a civics or social studies class. The lesson plan should be titled, "Why the framers of the Constitution designed the government as a republic, rather than a democracy."

Of course, this would NEVER be taught in a government indoctrination center.

Mark

40 posted on 05/25/2008 4:26:08 AM PDT by MarkL
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