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Texas used seized FLDS records against polygamous sect
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 05/06/2008 | Brooke Adams

Posted on 05/06/2008 5:16:55 AM PDT by MrEdd

Census sheets found in a safe at a polygamous sect's ranch in west Texas both support and contradict the state's claim of a widespread culture of underage marriage.

Texas authorities used the sheets to convince a judge that there was a "pervasive pattern" among the FLDS of marrying underage girls to older men.

A review of the "Father's Family Information" sheets shows a handful of 16-year-old wives, 13 young monogamous couples and 24 men with multiple wives - including one man with 21 wives and 36 children.

A Texas Ranger testified about the census sheets during an April 17-18 court hearing before 51st District Judge Barbara Walther, who accepted the records as evidence despite objections from attorneys representing FLDS parents and children. The pages were recently released by the court. Sgt. Danny Crawford said the sheets were found April 5 in an office at the ranch, home to members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Texas authorities raided the ranch on April 3 after receiving reports of an abused 16-year-old, calls now being investigated as a possible hoax.

Authorities have said, however, they found evidence of a polygamous lifestyle and underage marriage practices at the ranch that supported removing 464 children.

The bishop's record sheets helped them make that case.

(Excerpt) Read more at sltrib.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flds; pedophile; rape
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Looks like the FLDS already compelling to the courts.
1 posted on 05/06/2008 5:16:55 AM PDT by MrEdd
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To: Politicalmom; greyfoxx39; MizSterious; brytlea; metmom

ping


2 posted on 05/06/2008 5:19:56 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

What a surprise......


3 posted on 05/06/2008 5:22:26 AM PDT by ukie55
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To: MrEdd

Those “siezed records” are what is commonly known as “evidence”. I love how the article skillfully neglects to mention why the defense attorney objected to using the documents and just mentions that the judge denied the objection.


4 posted on 05/06/2008 5:23:55 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: contemplator
Papers found in the custody of who knows who , filled out sometime by somebody , between March and August 2007 , offered to reflect events that may have taken place at different times , and offered against who knows who . How could that be a problem ? Sounds good enough to me .
5 posted on 05/06/2008 5:34:37 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: kbennkc

If the evidence is good enough to rid my state of the people, so be it.


6 posted on 05/06/2008 5:45:30 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wolfcreek
If the evidence is good enough to rid my state of the people, so be it.

Unless Texas has changed since I lived there , the wrong doers will be punished and the children protected . I further predict that the lapses of due process will at some point be recognized and remedied . It will be a Texas size chore to clean up this mess .

8 posted on 05/06/2008 5:54:48 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: contemplator

Michael Savage on the Texas Stormtroopers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u4vXU0aYeU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBOHpf3SEc8&feature=related


9 posted on 05/06/2008 5:58:12 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: kbennkc

Hope Texas has a lot of money after the lawyers go after them for violating the civil rights of all these women and children.


10 posted on 05/06/2008 5:59:10 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: wolfcreek

“If the evidence is good enough to rid my state of the people, so be it.”

Does this sort of comment remind one of Thomas Jefferson or Robert Mugabe?


11 posted on 05/06/2008 6:00:34 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: MrEdd
Texas handles the Sacred FLDS Census Texts with unclean hands...

...untimely ripped from the Sacred FLDS Tabernacle!
12 posted on 05/06/2008 6:02:05 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: Morgana

“As I was going to St. Ives, I met a man with 7 wives”.

Funny, I never really thought about that before. Why is a popular riddle based on an apparently acceptable, ordinary encounter with a polygamist?


13 posted on 05/06/2008 6:02:56 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Bushwacker777
Nobody's civil rights were violated, and prosecutions and convictions will be forthcoming, despite the wishful thinking of many FLDS apologists, sympathizers, and enablers on this board.

The State of Texas is doing the right thing in shutting down this evil child-rape cult, and doing the job that Utah and Arizona should have done a long time ago.

14 posted on 05/06/2008 6:03:44 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: MrEdd

Another article said that the state was refusing to accept official Utah birth and marriage certificates as legal evidence.


15 posted on 05/06/2008 6:04:33 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Bushwacker777

Jefferson. Mugabe doesn’t give a crap if someone is raping children.


16 posted on 05/06/2008 6:04:40 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd; colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; ...

FIP Ping


17 posted on 05/06/2008 6:07:34 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (FLDS.... making babies with children because their God wants earthly bodies for spirit babies.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Yeah, and China hasn’t violated any Tibetan people’s civil rights.


18 posted on 05/06/2008 6:12:13 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: greyfoxx39
Texas authorities used the sheets to convince a judge that there was a "pervasive pattern" among the FLDS of marrying underage girls to older men.

If they had merely written all the records in "Reformed Egyptian" then the authorities would not have been able to translate it.


19 posted on 05/06/2008 6:14:36 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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