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L.A. Shares Blame in Teen's Death (Illegal Gang Member Kills)
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 4/6/2008 | Doug McIntyre, Columnist

Posted on 04/06/2008 1:07:06 PM PDT by Mark

ANITA Shaw says, "My country let me down." It's hard to argue with her. Not only did America let Anita Shaw down, so did California and Los Angeles.

Truth be told, Anita Shaw is being diplomatic, if not generous, by not lashing out in righteous indignation at the massive tragedy she has suffered at the hands of an indifferent government. Our government: federal, state and local.

Who is Anita Shaw and why should you care what she says? Pull up a chair.

Anita Shaw is a sergeant in the United States Army. On March 2, little more than a month ago, she was serving in Iraq when her CO told her to report to the Red Cross office. It was there she learned her 17-year-old son, Jamiel Shaw II, had been murdered - gunned down exactly three doors away from his own home.

Jamiel Shaw Sr. heard the shots that killed his son; one to the chest, one between the eyes. Jamiel Sr. sprinted down the block, arriving just ahead of the police. The cops found him standing over his son, already dead, still clutching the cell phone he had used to tell his dad he'd soon be home. Now he was never coming home.

But his mother was. Sgt. Shaw was given 20 minutes to pack for a flight out of Baghdad.

Jamiel Shaw was a star football player with a solid GPA and a bright future. He was the apple of his father and mother's eye; a hero to his kid brother, 9-year-old Thomas. Tom Shaw wanted to be a football player like Jamiel. Maybe even wear his big brother's number 4. That was before. Now Thomas wants to be "a scientist" so he can "invent a time machine" and go back and save his brother.

Shaw's killer? Police believe they have him - 19-year-old Pedro Espinosa, an illegal alien gangbanger, a killer for the 18th Street Gang.

And here's how America let Sgt. Shaw down: Pedro Espinosa should never have been allowed into this country.

Here's how California failed Sgt. Shaw: It allowed Pedro Espinosa to live in a state that does nothing about its open borders except shift the blame to Washington.

Here's how Los Angeles failed Sgt. Shaw: We accommodated gangs, we still throw out the welcome mat for illegal aliens, we allowed Pedro Espinosa to serve 180 days on gun charges without checking his immigration status. We released Espinosa onto the streets, and 24 hours later he murdered Jamiel Shaw II.

While Jamiel's mother patrolled the streets of Baghdad, helping spare Iraqi mothers the grief Los Angeles visited upon her, we did nothing. This transcends outrage. It's obscene.

The ultimate responsibility for the murder of Jamiel Shaw rests with the triggerman. But let me be blunt - the cowardice of local politicians who hide behind political correctness and racial pandering as an excuse to look the other way on the mounting death toll perpetrated by illegal aliens are enablers of death.

This may be uncomfortable for some to read. I assure you it's uncomfortable to write. Jamiel Shaw's death was preventable. The president, Congress, the governor, the state Legislature, the mayor, the City Council, the County Board of Supervisors, the chief of police, the county sheriff - all of us failed him.

The son of a U.S. solider was murdered on the streets of L.A. What are we going to do about it? What are you going to do about it?

The good intentions that created Special Order 40 surely weren't intended for gangbangers. Personally, I believe Special Order 40 has been a vast and deadly failure. It's a poverty and crime magnet for L.A. and every other city that has its equivalent.

But whatever view you hold on sanctuary-city policies, can't we at least agree the special consideration given illegal aliens by Order 40 should not apply to domestic terrorists? Gangbangers should be hunted down just like international terrorists. In fact, a case can be made Pedro Espinosa is an international terrorist.

We need to pass "Jamiel's Law." We need to force every local politician to explain how they are not complicit in the murder of Shaw. We can't return Jamiel to his mother, however, we can restore her faith in the country she has served better than it has served her.

Doug McIntyre hosts the "McIntyre in the Morning" program on Talk Radio 790 KABC, weekdays from 5 to 9 a.m.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 18thstreetgang; aliens; crimalien; crime; gangs; immigration; losangeles; militaryfamilies; sanctuary; sanctuarycity; specialorder40
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1 posted on 04/06/2008 1:07:07 PM PDT by Mark
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To: Mark

Is this an actual paper newspaper? Or an online one?

Very good story. Sad.


2 posted on 04/06/2008 1:10:40 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: Mark
ANITA Shaw says, "My country let me down."

Ummm, Anita, your commander in chief let you down.

3 posted on 04/06/2008 1:12:22 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.)
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To: Mark

This administrative indifference/incompetence is not limited to L.A. Get a load of this example of our ‘Institutions’ demonstrating competence and responsibility in protecting the Public and enforcing our laws;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1995891/posts


4 posted on 04/06/2008 1:13:53 PM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: E. Cartman
Ummm, Anita, your commander in chief let you down.

Unfortunately there's little hope the next will be any better.
5 posted on 04/06/2008 1:15:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: Mark

Liberalism failed Shaw.


6 posted on 04/06/2008 1:15:54 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (I'd rather be hunting with dick than driving with Ted)
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To: Mark
19-year-old Pedro Espinosa, an illegal alien gangbanger, a killer for the 18th Street Gang

Just another undocumented immigrant seeking a better life for himself and his family. How uncivil of the author to mention his status. After all, America is a nation of immigrants, just like Pedro. At least that's what George Bush has been telling us.

7 posted on 04/06/2008 1:15:57 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: squarebarb

Yes, it’ a newspaper- it’s an alternative to LA Times.


8 posted on 04/06/2008 1:17:28 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Mark

I can’t help but wonder what our soldiers must be thinking...going off to risk their lives, while their loved ones here are so vulnerable and their CIC absolutely flat out refuses to EFFECTIVELY SECURE OUR BORDERS...risking loosing the WOT, not in Iraq, not in Afghanistan, but right here in our own backyards.


9 posted on 04/06/2008 1:18:09 PM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: Mark
we allowed Pedro Espinosa to serve 180 days on gun charges without checking his immigration status. We released Espinosa onto the streets, and 24 hours later he murdered Jamiel Shaw IIThis is the part to me that really p*sses me off....how damn hard is it to verify someone's residency after being arrested? And, if they're found to be ILLEGALLY here, why cannot they be deported after the complete their sentence?
10 posted on 04/06/2008 1:19:46 PM PDT by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: Mark
we allowed Pedro Espinosa to serve 180 days on gun charges without checking his immigration status. We released Espinosa onto the streets, and 24 hours later he murdered Jamiel Shaw II

This is the part to me that really p*sses me off....how damn hard is it to verify someone's residency after being arrested? And, if they're found to be ILLEGALLY here, why cannot they be deported after the complete their sentence?>p?Sorry, I need to make 'preview' my friend..

11 posted on 04/06/2008 1:20:43 PM PDT by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: E. Cartman

CIC yes, but with lots of support from many of this country’s citizens. Heck, I see support on FR. Republicans like the cheap labor, DemocRATS want the cheap vote, and so it goes. Anita is right. Her COUNTRY let her down.


12 posted on 04/06/2008 1:21:46 PM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: Ethrane
I agree wholeheartedly with BOTH posts! :-)
13 posted on 04/06/2008 1:21:52 PM PDT by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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To: Mark

Our Government: Aiding And Abetting Illegal Aliens

Veteran: America has lost what I fought for ^


14 posted on 04/06/2008 1:22:53 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: squarebarb

“Jamiel’s Law.”

I like it. It would make a great state ballot initiative.

If someone would write it and file for it I’d sign the petition, I’d circulate the petition, I’d volunteer to work in the campaign.


15 posted on 04/06/2008 1:23:18 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: Mark

The son of a U.S. solider was murdered on the streets of L.A. What are we going to do about it? What are you going to do about it?

I’ve applied to join the Colorado Minutemen & I’m reading the Colorado message board putting together a list of decision makers who have a proactive stance on immigration .

I’m also voting for who best represents my Republic wether he has a shot or not . You guys ( whom it applies to ) can vote for the same ‘ole bullshit artist because they have an R .
And what I do about it in my county & my State on my time is between God and I .


16 posted on 04/06/2008 1:23:33 PM PDT by B.Bolt
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We need to pass “Jamiel’s Law.”

Doug .. This is where you and I are on difference .


17 posted on 04/06/2008 1:25:29 PM PDT by B.Bolt
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To: Ethrane
....how damn hard is it to verify someone's residency after being arrested?

It's not hard. The problem is, the law in LA County PROHIBITS the police from verifying someone's legal status or reporting it to federal authorities.

Any locality that does that should forfeit all state and federal revenue sharing dollars.

18 posted on 04/06/2008 1:26:21 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: B.Bolt

I’m with you. I’m not voting for any of the open border clowns. I’ll be writing a name in on my ballot.


19 posted on 04/06/2008 1:26:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting CONSERVATIVE in memory of 5 children killed by illegals 2/17/08 and 2/19/ 08)
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To: Mark
"This transcends outrage. It's obscene."

Although perfectly true, those words somehow seem inadequate.

20 posted on 04/06/2008 1:28:04 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: B.Bolt

I don’t think my state allows write-ins. That’s ok, I’m fine with leaving that box unmarked, although I’m voting for conservatives at the state and local levels. My conscience just won’t let me vote for any of the three DemocRATS currently in the running.


22 posted on 04/06/2008 1:34:27 PM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Check this out

http://web.mac.com/waltermoore/WalterMooreForMayor/Jamiels_Law.html

It's in the works

Also google has lots of stuff on Jamiel’s Law

http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&cs=utf8&q=Jamiel%E2%80%99s+Law&rys=0&itag=crv&_sb_lang=pref

That's All The Web, but google will have similar

23 posted on 04/06/2008 1:35:26 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: B.Bolt

What’s wrong with passing Jamiel’s Law?

I thought it was a good thing


24 posted on 04/06/2008 1:36:57 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Kimberly GG

bttt


25 posted on 04/06/2008 1:39:29 PM PDT by Guenevere (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all.)
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To: MizSterious; cripplecreek; Mark

although I’m voting for conservatives at the state and local levels.

You bet ! And Congress too . 1 last thing . Allow me to thank you for your calm rational words . It made me take a breath .

Mark ? It’s rare that I lose my composure . I’m sorry if I polluted your thread .


26 posted on 04/06/2008 1:40:13 PM PDT by B.Bolt
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To: B.Bolt

OK with me. I just like showing off my tag line.:)


27 posted on 04/06/2008 1:42:09 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Syncro

I just know that you can never legislate ethics and or morality . Why not put folks in office who swear on the Constitution and actually do it ? Force people to do what they say they promise .


28 posted on 04/06/2008 1:42:56 PM PDT by B.Bolt
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To: Mark
The ultimate responsibility for the murder of Jamiel Shaw rests with the triggerman. But let me be blunt - the cowardice of local politicians who hide behind political correctness and racial pandering as an excuse to look the other way on the mounting death toll perpetrated by illegal aliens are enablers of death.

We have very few leaders but lots of self-pandering stooges called politicians who like pigs feed at the troughs for their own gain. Public servants in name only.

29 posted on 04/06/2008 1:42:56 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Syncro

My answer might differ from B.Bolt’s, but my objection is that we already HAVE perfectly good laws to deal with illegal immigration. The focus should be on enforcing them, rather than creating yet another law that we won’t enforce.


30 posted on 04/06/2008 1:52:22 PM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: Jim Robinson; SandRat; fieldmarshaldj; SwinneySwitch; T.L.Sink; ExTexasRedhead; AuntB; sionnsar; ...

Illegal aliens- committing crimes that Americans won’t commit.


31 posted on 04/06/2008 1:57:40 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Those in the national Republican leadership do the work of three men- Moe, Larry, and Curly.)
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To: MizSterious

The problem is, LA County has its own law that says their law enforcement officers can’t assist federal authorities to enforce the national law.

This is the sort of thing that the Supreme Court should bounce in a heartbeat but it has never been challenged because the federal government, as you point out, doesn’t want to enforce their own laws.

A state ballot initiative specifically superseding local ordnances that establish “Sanctuary Cities” would at least bring the issue to the forefront and put a lot of heat on a lot of politicians.


32 posted on 04/06/2008 1:59:10 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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To: cripplecreek
Maybe John McCain should be asked if he's willing to call up a soldier to tell her that her son has been murdered by an illegal alien? (Reference)
33 posted on 04/06/2008 2:06:26 PM PDT by Lord Basil
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To: E. Cartman

President Bush, Chertoff, Congress, Schwartzeneggar, State reps, LA City Council, Mayor Villagroisa, etc.
She should place all the blame exactly where it belongs. I would be screaming from the rooftops to ANYONE that would listen.
And to think they are working on another May 1 illegal alien march in L.A. This would be the perfect time for her to make her point and demand that the before mentioned ‘officials’ obey our country’s laws and protect citizens.
Sad story.


34 posted on 04/06/2008 2:09:38 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Mark

LA is a Sanctuary City. Take all Federal $$$$$ away from them.


35 posted on 04/06/2008 2:17:22 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Mark

This is horrible. Our own government just allows these murderers to walk right in all for the sake of global one world. I just can’t stand them. I am voting against all the incumbents.


36 posted on 04/06/2008 2:28:36 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: SandRat

Agree. I am truly fed up with hearing Spanish around every corner. My bank actually offers not just English and Spanish at the ATMs but, an Asian language ( I can’t tell you which as I don’t read Asian characters) and another language that I even can’t remember now. It’s just to cover for offering Spanish. People are always supposed to speak English in the workplace but, at my former place of work, you could frequently hear Tagalog (Filipino). LA is going down the sewer of PC. La Raza has a stranglehold here with Villaraigosa being a member when in college. Somebody please save California before it becomes the same cesspool from whence the illegals came.


37 posted on 04/06/2008 2:31:41 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: E. Cartman
I agree with you. Our Commander In chief and the entire Federal Govt who refuses to control entry into this country has let this army Sargent down.
38 posted on 04/06/2008 2:35:02 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

When we moved to LA County 18 years ago I was shocked to learn that the Police aren’t allowed to ask immigration status. The rationale for that is that illegals would be more inclined to report crimes and testify if they aren’t threatened with deportation themselves. I don’t care about that, please ask and deport before we become required to speak Spanish in California.


39 posted on 04/06/2008 2:35:30 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: hinckley buzzard

bttt


40 posted on 04/06/2008 2:51:42 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: B.Bolt
I just know that you can never legislate ethics and or morality

That has nothing to do with my post to you.

To interject that is specious to say the least.

41 posted on 04/06/2008 3:08:00 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: MizSterious
The focus should be on enforcing them

Of course.

Getting our corrupt government to so so is the problem, I agree.

42 posted on 04/06/2008 3:09:42 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

But my point is—if they won’t enforce the existing laws, what makes anyone think they’ll enforce this new one?


43 posted on 04/06/2008 3:16:03 PM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: Mark
Shaw's killer? Police believe they have him - 19-year-old Pedro Espinosa, an illegal alien gangbanger, a killer for the 18th Street Gang.

If there was any justice, jorge bush should be made to carry the picture of this murdered young man for the rest of his incompetent life.

44 posted on 04/06/2008 3:58:53 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Mark

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals)

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. See also here and here

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower.


45 posted on 04/06/2008 4:44:02 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Mark
Among the guilty

46 posted on 04/06/2008 5:07:05 PM PDT by ruination
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To: AmericanInTokyo

This isn’t related to the mortgage mess, but it’s another example of what open borders are doing to this country.


47 posted on 04/06/2008 5:42:49 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Those in the national Republican leadership do the work of three men- Moe, Larry, and Curly.)
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To: HiJinx

ping


48 posted on 04/06/2008 7:12:39 PM PDT by bkwells (Liberals=Hypocrites)
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To: ckilmer

Wow... nice post!


49 posted on 04/06/2008 7:15:40 PM PDT by bkwells (Liberals=Hypocrites)
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To: ckilmer

Excellent post.


50 posted on 04/06/2008 7:41:16 PM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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