Posted on 03/10/2008 9:16:26 AM PDT by Doctor13
The West will live to regret its betrayal of the Serbs
An independent Kosovo offers a European foothold for jihadists, argues Hermann Kelly
Gordon Brown's support for Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence should surprise and disappoint people in equal measure. Surprise because, as Prime Minister, he failed to discuss the matter in any depth in the Parliament before he made this announcement. And disappoint because this ill-thought-out move breaks international law, creates a dangerous precedent and gives succour and hope to every crackpot secessionist group in the world.
This latest Government move has sent out the message that if secessionists fight hard enough or are successful in their work of ethnic cleansing, they will be rewarded at the EU diplomats, table. Mr Brown is basically saying that the most violent bullyboy wins and the last military victor takes all; but what he should be telling the Albanians and the Serbs is that Kosovo's status should be resolved by negotiation and under international law.
The Government doesn't seem to realise what it is walking into in Kosovo. The Balkans area is covered by a volcanic range of simmering hostilities which have erupted and can erupt again at any time. Conflict is this area is not new, for hostilities between Christian Serbs and Albanians (the vast majority of whom are Muslims) have been ongoing in Kosovo for many centuries.
The peoples of this region have intermittently lived at peace and enmity for the best part of 500 years. No side in this affair has clean hands but that is no reason for the British Government to reward the latest and most successful perpetrator of ethnic cleansing in Europe, the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA).
The Serbs have been in Kosovo since the seventh century. It is is the geographical cradle of their civilisation, attested to by the plethora of Christian monasteries and churches which dot its landscape. And what about the Serbs who lived here? They have fought for centuries to defend European and Christian civilisation. It was at the Battle of Kosovo in 1389 that they fought (70,000 of them to the death) to keep the Islamic Ottoman Empire from rolling over the rest of Europe. The Serbian people have been a bulwark against Islamic expansion into Europe for many centuries. It was the Serbian people who opposed the aggression of Germany in the First World War and the rise of Nazism in World War II.
They made British victories possible but what thanks do they now get for their efforts? Betrayal by the Western elites who care little for their struggle, and revenge from Germany which now takes its opportunity to put the boot into the Serbs.
While some may point that 90 per cent of Kosovo are currently Albanian, after the Great War the majority of the Kosovan population were Serbian but they have been pushed out by violence or the threat of violence as well as being simply outbred by Albanian Muslims, who have the highest birthrate in Europe.
During the 1990s Albanian and Islamic militias crossed over the border from Albania into Kosovo, murdering and pushing out the Serbs while at the same time destroying their churches and monasteries. The 200,000 Serbs who have been pushed out of Kosovo in the past two decades must have their right to return vindicated in law and, in fact, before EU foreign ministers speak any more on the subject.
There needs to be a recognition that Serbia has also changed. The Communist war criminal Slobodan Milosevic is long gone and replaced by people who support democracy.
The United States is supporting Kosovan independence in the belief that the Kosovan people, who are mostly Muslim, support America, but it is very naïve to think that a majority Muslim population will love America for very long. Eaten bread is soon forgotten; the Kosovans have taken what they can get from America and NATO and will no doubt look to Saudi Arabia and other Islamic states which already have a strong economic and religious interest in the new statelet.
The US government should remember that both the Mujahideen of Afghanistan and Saddam's henchmen in Iraq were happy to take dollars and arms when their interests dictated they do so. Then, their power intact, they quickly turned on the United States. Indeed, the Afghans are currently shooting at American helicopters with US rocket launchers. Once the Albanian Muslims of Kosovo are secure in their state, just watch things swiftly change.
Kosovans are not a nation, so why should they have a nation state? Nor is it a multi-ethnic state where the rights of all are respected. It is small, economically unviable, unstable political entity which arouses great enmity from its neighbours and can act as a base for organised crime in the future. Already Albania is a hub of drug trade, processing heroin from Afghanistan, and a centre for human trafficking for the purpose of prostitution; and if you want a cheap stolen Mercedes, Albania is also the place for you because it is a lawless centre of organised crime.
Another problem is that Kosovo has the potential to become a foothold in Europe for Islamic militants. Yes, Britain and America are facilitating the emergence of a base for radical Muslim jihadists right under their noses. We know already that jihadists from Yemen and Chechnya have fought for the KLA and that Saudi Arabia has pumped huge amounts of money into building mosques and religious centres there.
Albanian militants sought to organise an attack on a US army base in New Jersey last year. Unless they are dealt with very differently there is a danger that Kosovo will become a beachhead of Islamic terrorism in Europe. Al-Qaeda has already gained a position there and is unlikely to give it up for obvious strategic reasons. The American people will quickly find that betraying the Serbian people of Kosovo as a PR exercise in Islamic countries will backfire on them.
We know of Serbian anger over the loss of Kosovo, and can be sure that this dispute will come back again until resolved. The anger of a dispossessed Serbian people awaits us unless the situation is dealt with in a different fashion.
When a NATO commander ordered the British Army to prevent Russian planes from landing in the Kosovan capital in 1999 General Sir Michael Jackson refused, saying: "Sir, I'm not starting World War III for you."
Before Britain goes any further it is important to address some of the difficulties which will arise from Kosovo's break from international law. Otherwise this regional dispute will fester until the inevitable happens. The First World War began with a single shot in Sarajevo, just up the road from Kosovo. Gordon Brown should learn from history or repeat its mistakes. He must swiftly change tack on Kosovo.
Hermann Kelly is an Irish journalist and author of Kathy's Real Story: A Culture of False Allegations Exposed (Prefect Press, £9.99)
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Note to Serbs, this American had absolutely nothing to do with it.
Another note to Serbs: This American voted against Bill Clinton and was against the bombing of Serbia by NATO.
Whose side were we on during the last "Serbian" conflict? What the current policy now dictates is that we give southern California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas from El Paso to south of Corpus Christi back to Mexico.....cause a MAJORITY of the populace in these areas is of a certain ethnic type.
Now the little enclaves of violent minority concentrations can push out governments and set up city states.
The Basque in Spain, French in Canada, Islamist in the Philippines, and every islamic enclave in the Soviet Union, China, Africa and wherever else those little cockroaches thrive have been given legitimacy in getting separate governments under Islamic law.
Nice job state department. Just peachy...
Bump for a later read.
As far as I know they never, ever, uncovered the alleged 'mass graves' of the Albanians in Kosovo. Milosovic may not have been a saint, but as I see it he alone had the gulliones to stand up against the islamofacists who were gradually eating his country up. It is also interesting to note that Serb mass graves were found. Milosovics' hatred of his muslim 'hosts' stemmed from 500 years of islamofacist murders and conquests of parts of Serbia's land. Not a nice guy for sure, but Milosovic was absolutely framed by his Western brethren on behalf of the drug-running, terrorist 'Kosovites'. Political correctness must be served and the new world order must be obtained, hence nationalists like Milosovic must be destroyed.
This action sets up a dangerous, disquieting precedent.
“The United States is supporting Kosovan independence in the belief that the Kosovan people, who are mostly Muslim, support America...”
Where do supposedly serious writers get such notions?
I don’t think many Americans are under any illusions about Kosovo. The U.S.’s recognition of Kosovo ratified the existing situation in the region—the de facto Kosovo independence—and in no way showed any happiness about the creation of another Muslim-majority nation in Europe.
Short of sending in the Marines to kill Kosovars, what practical step could America (or Great Britain) do to stop Kosovo from becoming independent?
Supporting Kosova's independence was the right call. As has been mentioned, there's no more threat of jihadists there than already exists in Albania.
-Eric
So did I. I took some heat on this forum defending Serbs during the dirty Clinton war against the Serbs from some shortsighted and naive individuals, unfortunately Bush continues some of the worst Clinton,s legacy, thats why Mccain is going to lose election, since he will be perceived as a continuation of Bush and Clinton years.
This will be a price to be paid for ending Clinton-Bush dynasty, assuming the monster Hilary will be unable to steal nomination.
For all those who are going to jump on me for above opinion I just have one question:
Was US better off in 1988 (end of Cold War with Soviets, unprecedented economic growth, repect and prestige our great country enjoyed internationally), than it is in 2008, (you come up with what happened since 1998) considering both the domestic and international issues ?
Bush Clinton Bush dynasty started in 1988, but God forbid may last until 2016 if Hildebeast is elected by stupid sheeple. In this case it will be Bush Clinton Bush (Clinton or Bush)dynasty 1988-2016 and beyond (Bill, Chelsea or Jeb Bush may run then).
Did we lose our minds and our Republic our Founding Fathers created and fought for to became a Kingdom again?
If a two families dominate White House for 30, potentially 40 years we became a kingdom without knowing it.
Tin foil hat observation: Many small, weak states which are ethnically based, at conflict with their neighbors, and economically dependent represent fertile ground for NWO transnational rulers.
Hague tribunal was humiliated by Milosevic trial, they could not prove any "war crimes" he allegedly committed, so they assassinated him tho save their ugly face.
Albanian denialist alert.
This was never proven.
The West is becoming Serbia..
Spot on. For example, in France, there are 750 special zones (ZUS) where French police is forbidden to enter.
In tbose places, ranging from several buildings to the entire city blocks, jihhadists, common criminals and terrorists have built their bases.
Of course, under the tutelage of then Minister of Interior who is now President of France.
Kosovo has been a battleground between ethnic Serbians and Albanians for hundreds of years. Independence won't change that. There will be one of two outcomes: (1) Serbs will maintain administrative control over northern Kosovo, including Mitrovica; or (2) there will be a repeat of the 1990’s, but this time a newly emboldened Russia will weigh in on the side of the Serbs, with potentially far-reaching consequences for NATO and Central Europe.
The fact is Hague Tribunal was not able to prove Milosevic was a war criminal , that,s why he suddenly died.
That the bottom line whether one likes it or not.
Kosovo has brough a new paradigm into the concept of declaring independence. According to Kosovo experience, foreigners can infiltrate a country - such as Mexicans are doing to us with the blessing of McCain, Kennedy, etc. - and when they are a majority they can separate by declaring "independence." Will Washington recognize the new nation of Atzlan once the border states demand to separate from US?
Russia has been looking for a low-cost showdown with NATO. I don't think the US or NATO will risk a wider conflict to salvage Greater Albania, which is what an “independent” Kosovo plus Albania equals. If the ethnic Albanians try to exert administrative control over northern Kosovo, Serbia (with Russia's support) will move in. The best outcome is the status quo (#1) but this is the Balkans where the best outcome is never attained.
The day that "no war will be allowed" is also the day that "No Freedom Will Be Allowed"!
What you are suggesting is that "the US & NATO" is backing the EU in taking the place of Tito in the Balkans and the Soviet Union in the rest of Europe. If that's the case, one shouldn't be surprised if those who love freedom hate the EU -- and hate the US & NATO for backing them.
"We weren't there to pick sides... This is my personal view, but I don't think there was a good and an evil that we were separating. We were separating the subtle bad choices." - LINK
The Slavs showed up in what we now call Bosnia, Montenegro, and Kosovo in the 4th century, mainly from Poland and the Ukraine.
“The West will live to regret its betrayal of the Serbs”
I’ve an open mind on the topic of “what went wrong in post-Communism
Yugoslavia/Balkans”.
Please find below an amazon.com link to an interesting book on the
subject that I’ve just started reading (on this very day!)
Unholy Terror: Bosnia, Al-Qa’ida, and the Rise of Global Jihad
by John R. Schindler
To begin with, the Serbs were not only fighting the Bosnian Muslims, but the entire Muslim world gratis Iran, not to mention the might of the entire U.S. military whose aim it was to occupy all of Yugoslavia - and this, even Milosevic would not allow - and rightly so, not to mention the media that were in collaboration with this draft-doding president. I'm not here to defend Slobo, but as far as all these atrocities attributed to him and the JNA, most of them were committed by Bosnian Muslim and Kosovo Muslim Albanians - i.e., Racak, that was the headquarters for the KLA, and the Serbs accused of the most vile of atrocities, such as the Trepca mines when Daniel Pearl exposed it to be a hoax - The Markale marketplace - where we bombed the Bosnian Serbs -
This is what Yossef Bodansky, the author of "Bin Laden, The Man Who Declared War on America," wrote in his 1995 book, "Offensive in the Balkans,"
"Phase Three started with the self-inflicted major terrorist provocation. On Friday 5, 1994, a major explosion rocked the Markale -- Sarajevo's main market place -- causing heavy casualties. What was immediately described as the ubiquitous "Serb mortar shell" was actually a special charge designed and built with help from HizbAllah experts and then most likely dropped from a nearby rooftop onto the crowd of shoppers Video cameras at the ready recorded this expertly-staged spectacle of gore, while dozens of corps of Bosnian Muslim troops killed in action (exchanged the day before in a 'body swap' with the Serbs) were paraded in front of cameras to raise the casualty counts.
"This callous self-killing was designed to shock the West especially sentimental and gullible Washington, in order to raise the level of Western sympathy to the Bosnian Muslims and further demonize the Serbs so that Western governments would be more supportive of Sarajevo's forthcoming aggressive moves, and perhaps even finallyintervene military."
There were other reports from European newspapers such as The Sunday Times," with headlines that read, "Serbs 'not guilty' of massacre, Experts warned US that mortar was Bosnian." (1 Oct. 1995), and "US Framed Serbs for Market Bombing," from the Stoneyhill Center, a British think tank. (Oct 1995).
But none of this mattered. Our presidents past and present had an agenda. To appease the Muslim world, even if it meant destroying a Christian people to do it.
But why is this so important now? It is because we have handed the Balkans over to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda and the media is absolutely silent.
To say that it was Slobo ALONE who commited the war crimes is totally obscene.
Please get a copy of John Schindler's book, "Unholy Terror, Bosnia, Al-Qa'ida, and the Rise of Globa Jihad," to see what the Serbs were facing - so if there were any criminals in this war, we can look inward.
Schindler makes the following points: - how the Bosnian conflict has been misrepresented by the mainstream media, covering up the learge role played by radical Islam and al-Qa'ida:
- how Osama bin Laden used Bosnia as a base for terrorist operations worldwide--including attacks on the United States from the Millennium Plot to 9/11;
- how veterans of the Bosnian jihad have murdered thousands of Americand and conducted attacks around the world;
- how the Clinton administration, in collaboration with Iran, secretly supplied Bosnia's mujahidin, incouding al-Qa'ida, with the millions of dollars of weapons and suppleis;
- how America's Bosnian allies have been in covert alliacnes with radical anti-American regimes and several countries;
- why Bosnia and its secret jihad matter to America and our War on Terrorism today.
John Schindler is a Professor of Strategy at the Naval War College in Newport, Rhode Islam,
And these are the forces that the Serbs had to contend with, with the West openly supporting the Muslim war criminals.
prometheus1982 openly supports the KLA war criminals and Albanian inspired mythology.
I wonder if the provoteur "hopelite" has now become "prometheus1982?"
Hummm........
Sorry!
Well, if you speak of Caucasus, this is true. If you speak of Balkans, it is utter BS.
Albanians behave like illegal squatter who is oblivious to the notion of title deed.
Byzantine records speak of Albanians for the first time in 11th century AD.
Linguistic analysis show that Albanians lived in an area where Latin but not Greek was spoken, and that is not Balkans for sure.
One of the most creative lies is that Albanians are Illyrians.
Anyone willing to check can debunk a hoax in half an hour:
Illyrians were maritime culture. Albanians have no maritime terms of their own
The span between first mention of Albanians and Illyrian archeological record is over 800 years
Illyrians used Greek language, no trace of Greek in Albanian
The area where Illyrians lived is not area where Albanians setttled in 11th century.
Albanian and Illyrian language belong to two different Indoeuropan language branches (satem and centum). It makes cross impossible, like cross between cats and cauliflower.
Illyrian hoax was propelled by Communist dictator Enver Hohxa in hope to give some shine to his dreck of state. This is well known among Albanians from Albania.
If who came first is the criterium for owing the land (and I believe it is not) Albanians should be trhown into Adriatic, not only from Kosovo but from Albania as well. Geographical names in Kosovo and Albania show that it is Serbian land invaded by Albanians.
The Illyrians were long gone before the first Albanian ever showed up on the scene!
I’m still awaiting for him to claim that Serbian Orthodox monasteries are really converted Albanian Catholic churches, next on the Albanian mythology front.
Actually, Schindler's book has been out for almost a year - I checked with our local library and believe it or not, there is only one copy of the book in libraries throughout the entire state of Pennsylvania.
May I suggest to everyone that they check with their local library and ask that the book be brought in? It's the only way that the American people will understand the significance of al-Qaeda in the Balkans.
Please read: Clinton-Approved Iranian Arms Transfers Help Turn Bosnia into Militant Islamic Base.
What we have done to the Serbian people is shameful and a disgrace.
What is today's result? The United States was the first to recognize an independent Kosovo whose government has been taken over by jihadist war criminals thereby creating an overwhelming Muslim country in the heart of Europe.
Beam me up, Scotty!
But JOHN MCCAIN did!
Wars are not pretty. Was Milosevic responsible for the deaths of many Muslims? I don’t doubt it. I also think it’s fairly obvious as to why he did so. His people were being brutalized by thugs for decades, and with no other options, Serbia finally reacted.
“And when they (Muslims) behead your own people [...] then you will know what this was all about.” -Slobodan Milosevic
Albanians are no more Illyrians than you or I.
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