Didn't look very hard for either.
It took me about 20 seconds to find
Wow.
Posted on 02/28/2008 10:39:14 AM PST by cowboyway
Lincoln's political attempts failed when the confederacy chose to start a war.
Furthermore, I would maintain that the union was severed for longer than the period between when the Southern states seceded and Appomattox. I would also include the military occupation following the war, ignobly known as 'Reconstruction'.
Rebellion or no, Reconstruction or no, legally the Southern states were not out of the union for a single day, for a single moment. Or so the Supreme Court found.
secession - the act of withdrawing from an organization, union, or political entity.
When your act of withdrawing is illegal then your claims of secession are invalid.
Two.
We'll get nowhere with this argument; reached that stalemate a long time ago.
Rebellion or no, Reconstruction or no, legally the Southern states were not out of the union for a single day, for a single moment. Or so the Supreme Court found.
A stacked SC, full of Lincolnites that found in favor of the victor, i.e. their comrades. Any reasonable individual would dismiss any decision by that court out of hand based on the sheer weight of the unmitigated bias. But, as above, we'll get nowhere with this argument; reached that stalemate a long time ago.
When your act of withdrawing is illegal then your claims of secession are invalid.
We'll get nowhere with this argument, either; reached that stalemate a long time ago, also.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Or: Insanity: having the same argument with NS over and over again and expecting him to admit that he's WRONG.
Good day.
"We, the people of the Confederate States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government, "
And yet those sovereign and independent states couldn't enter into treaties, alliances, or confederations. They couldn't place imposts or duties on imports or exports. They couldn't keep troops or ships of war in time of peace, or enter into any agreement or compact with another State a foreign power. They couldn't coin money or decide what kind of government they wanted. They couldn't completely outlaw slavery within their borders, even if they had wanted to. The had to extradite people wanted in other states, even if they didn't want to. In fact they were operating under the same kinds of restrictions that they were under the real Constitution. Given that, how can the confederate constitution be considered a return to the kinds of freedoms the states enjoyed under the Articles of Confederation?
Three.
And before we get too far off track of the thread, for the record I could not care less what the state of Florida allows on their license plates. They could require the confederate flag be on every single car, and I still wouldn’t care. I don’t live there. I have never lived there. I will never live there. I don’t have a say in the matter.
When I am supposed to admit that I'm wrong merely because you say I am, the doing so would be insanity.
Four.
Do they have a SCV plate in your state?
Five.
In Kansas? I should think not. We remained loyal to the Union.
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Kansas. If I one brother in jail and the other in Kansas, I'd bust the one out of Kansas first.
Kansas Sons of Confederate Veterans
(((snicker))) a haon
Of course you would. I'd say the same about my brother but it isn't necessary. He's way too smart to live in Dixie.
Kansas Sons of Confederate Veterans.
So what? When states down south offer license plates for Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War then I'll consider SCV plates for northern states.
Six.
the process for the acquiring the tag in Florida has cost nearly $200,000 and taken three years to be adopted into a bill.
Good Lord. Is this really money well spent???? I would think a property tax cut would be better use IMHO.
I'm glad you guys think that way. We've already got way too many arrogant yankees as it is. Please pass the word to everyone that you can that it's stupid to live in Dixie. And if you know any interloping yankees living here now, try to talk them into leaving before they get stuck on stupid and can't leave.
When states down south offer license plates for Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War then I'll consider SCV plates for northern states.
You've been standing out in the wind too long.
a seacht
Sure. Some non-profit groups raise millions via the sale of license tags.
I would think a property tax cut would be better use IMHO.
Huh?
Oh I thought the Representative was given 200,000 dollars from the state coffers. Sorry I misunderstood that part.
Why? How would you feel if you saw a North Carolina or Texas or Florida plate with the crest of the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War on it? Honest opinion.
No problemo.
I wouldn't feel anything. As everybody knows, some Southerners fought for the union and some northerners fought for the Confederacy. Just like when I see the Mexican flag. They can fly their damn rag all they want to. It's when they trash my flag that I get angry.
I couldn't find any SUV's in the South but I did find SCV's in Wisconsin, California and Oregon.
It's also interesting that notable members of the SCV's include Clint Eastwood, Harry Truman and Nelson W. Winbush.
You must not have looked very hard. It took me about 20 seconds to find a web page that lists SUVCW camps in Florida, Texas and Tennessee (includes Alabama), plus Camps-at-Large for Georgia and North Carolina.
Didn't look very hard for either.
It took me about 20 seconds to find
Wow.
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