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Why the Democrats Are Kicking the Clintons to the Curb
Townhall.com ^ | February 22, 2008 | Lorie Byrd

Posted on 02/22/2008 5:54:48 AM PST by Kaslin

Hillary Clinton’s recent primary losses to Barack Obama may say as much about Democrats’ desires to be done with the Clintons as they do about the cult of personality that is Obama.

Some say Hillary is now paying for the sins of her husband. I agree that may be true to some degree, but in many cases she was an accomplice to those sins and has only herself to blame. I have wondered for some time whether or not Americans would want another soap opera presidency and I think we are seeing the answer in the most recent primary vote counts. There are many reasons Democrats have to send the Clintons packing. Here are a few:

1. Democrats don’t want a return to non-stop scandal defense mode. Democrats like to wrap the Clinton scandals up in a blue dress and say they were all about sex, but that is ridiculous. There were numerous scandals in the Clinton White House well before anyone knew who Monica Lewinski was and many of them involved Hillary. The travel office firings, subpoenaed billing records, Whitewater, and FBI files are only the beginning of the list. It goes on for a while and includes names like Vince Foster, Johnny Chung, and the FALN.

Why on earth would Democrats want to sign up for a second ride on the Clinton scandal train when they could opt for a clean slate candidate? Besides, it would not be so easy to deflect future scandals as it was previous ones. I don’t think Ken Starr will be making a repeat performance as boogeyman and he was a necessary element to the Clinton scandal survival strategy. Without a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy to oppose, there is not so much enthusiasm for defending the Clintons.

I believe there is a whole group of Democrats out there who are secretly enjoying being able to vote against a Clinton. They can take out their frustrations with the Clintons and still vote for a Democrat. For the first time in 16 years, Democrats can vote against a Clinton without having to vote for a Republican to do it.

2. The Clinton is no longer the hip one in the race. Think about it. In Bill Clinton’s presidential primary he was up against Paul Tsongas, Tom Harkin, Bob Kerrey, and some other people I don’t even remember. In the general elections he was up against George H. W. Bush and Bob Dole. Hillary, in sharp contrast, is up against the Obamassiah who makes women swoon.

It is 16 years later and she is now the establishment candidate. What it comes down to is that even though Hillary was married to the “Man from Hope,” now she faces a candidate much better at Hope-A-Dope (as Jon Henke calls it) than she and her husband ever dreamed of being. Instead of the Man from Hope that Bill Clinton was, Hillary is in many ways just “The Man” who stands in the way of the first black President of the United States. (Yeah, that’s right – it wasn’t Bill Clinton, regardless of what Toni Morrison said.)

3. Not only is Hillary not hip enough, but she is not liberal enough for the Democrat base. Democrats, like Republicans, will settle for a moderate if they are desperate enough for a win and if they believe that person has the best chance of getting elected, but not if they have a more liberal candidate who appears to have just as good a chance to win in the general election. Hillary is far from a moderate. She is definitely liberal, but on some issues she has angered her base by not being liberal enough, or at least not being in step with the far left in the base – most notably on the issue of Iraq. Barack Obama has the distinction of having the most liberal voting record in the Senate.

Although things look really bad for Hillary Clinton at this point, and many have said she is done, I will never count a Clinton out until the last vote is cast. But even if Hillary pulls a rabbit out of her hat on March 4, and some super delegates out of it after that, a statement has been made by many Democrats. The Clinton magic as we once knew it is gone. The Elvis in Bill Clinton left the building long ago and Hillary’s inevitability went with it. I suspect many Democrats are cleansing their political souls in the process.


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To: Kaslin

Hillary should have cut her losses early and never even run for President. Her unfavorable standing in the polls were high several years ago, but of course the Clintons have never believed they weren’t liked. She has no one to blame but herself. The rumors of her cold personality and nasty temperament preceded her, and over the years, people have seen for themselves that they were true. Nobody wants a shrew in the White House.


61 posted on 02/22/2008 9:26:16 AM PST by mass55th
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To: Iron Munro
I don't know if anyone can successfully campaign against him because his supporters have left judgement and rational thought behind.

I kind of felt the same way, but then I got to thinking that people are so fickle. Combine that with the early popularity of Obama and the huge amount of time to force his plans out of him, I think he will lose if he is the DEMONcRAT nominee. McCain is popular among the independent and moderate voters. I think he can win by a majority.

62 posted on 02/22/2008 10:17:20 AM PST by DallasDeb ((a.k.a. USAFA2006Mom!))
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To: Greg F
We can make fun of the followers of Obama . . .

You want to know what Obama fans are like, check this out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1974170/posts

Sorry, I forgot how to make a link.

63 posted on 02/22/2008 10:22:48 AM PST by DallasDeb ((a.k.a. USAFA2006Mom!))
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To: badgerlandjim

BLJ—can you explain the markings on the hood?

I’m from Rio Linda.

At first it looked like someone was hit by the car, but with two sets of handprints, I’m thinking something else was going on!!


64 posted on 02/22/2008 10:23:06 AM PST by exit82 (People get the government they deserve. And they are about to get it--in spades.)
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To: NavyCanDo

“The world will breathe a sigh of relief once he is gone. We all know that.”

No,they’ll be saying...”Cry havoc! and let slip the dogs of war!”


65 posted on 02/22/2008 10:25:15 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: exit82
The Desperate One’s way to collect a Superdelegate vote...;o)
66 posted on 02/22/2008 10:50:28 AM PST by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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To: Greg F

Hillary will not go quietly anywhere...she will play parts to get what she wants...if she can’t be the nominee VP will suit her and who knows what can happen after that. She and Obama are so close for the most part and differ on little that if Obama gets the nomination and she is on his ticket no matter how distasteful it may be to him, she might just pull the others his way for what she may be able to convince him would be a landslide...Hillary will not give up she never has and I don’t think will.


67 posted on 02/22/2008 10:53:53 AM PST by celtic gal
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To: NavyCanDo

Agreed. I kind of hope one of their idiots get elected so we can really see what it’ll be like to see relief when a president’s term is up. Obama is Jimmy Carter. He’ll make an a$$ out of himself. It’s just like the twisted way Hitlery and Obama used McCain’s remark about remaining in Iraq for 100 years. It’s lieing, it’s fraud, it’d perjury in a court of law.


68 posted on 02/22/2008 11:26:01 AM PST by ruthles (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.)
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To: Kaslin
The Clintons are staying on like a nasty obnoxious very visible loud stain that never no matter what their political party does will never go away.

Last night's 19th Demo Debate proves it. She just sat there believing she really didn't have to do anything other than talk on and on about health care. I wish that Campbell Brown, who absolutely had no control of the debate, would have shut her up. It appears health care is the only thing Hillary knows anything about and what she knows is not the correct choice for America.

I sincerely believe Clinton has something on Baracko that will tear down his surging popularity. Hence, the smirkingly gracious final statement of Hillary's at the close, "how honored she is"..."no matter what happens.." etc., sort of like reminding Baracko, you still have your family, the American people have me. Sucker!!!

69 posted on 02/22/2008 12:13:22 PM PST by harpo11 (Hillary worked hard for children for 35 years. The result: Elian Gonzalez Sent to Castro's Hell)
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To: Greg F
I think she may be satisfied with becoming Queen of the Senate.

Harry be ready to get dethroned.

70 posted on 02/22/2008 12:17:39 PM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the job that the media refuses to do.)
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To: Types_with_Fist
She was playing nice last night to induce Prez Obama to choose her as a new liberal Supreme Court justice. Just imagine that disaster! Then she could make the laws to fit her leftist agenda and forget about the legislature.

Obama must never become president! To make sure, we have to get out the panic vote and do all we can now to make sure that Pubbies are elected to the House and Senate as well. The RATs are already counting on a full RAT legislature and the presidency. If that happens, the Republic is dead, the rule of law is over, illegals will increase their invasion, our military will be emasculated and our enemies will win everywhere. Full dhimmitude for all would be just around the corner.

I can't help but be very nervous about this election, perhaps because my pre-election predictions about Carter and Clinton came true and both turned out even worse than I thought they would. Osama would be far worse than those two failures.

71 posted on 02/22/2008 12:39:15 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: Kaslin
"We need to outlaw the concealed carry of weapons in the United States except for police and military." -- Barack Obama

Obama vs. McCain? Let the games begin!

72 posted on 02/22/2008 1:08:40 PM PST by pabianice
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To: celtic gal

I remember an interview with Hillary and Katie Curic sometime before Iowa. Couric asked Hillary what would happen if she did not get the nomination and Hillary said that’s not going to happen. Couric said haven’t you even considered what you’ll do if you aren’t the nomionee and she said no. It was spooky. I’ll see if I can find a transcript.


73 posted on 02/22/2008 1:16:40 PM PST by MomwithHope (Our country sure has some slim pickin's on both sides for 2008!)
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To: MomwithHope
Found it - from November 28, 2007

KATIE COURIC, ANCHOR, “CBS EVENING NEWS”: If it‘s not you, how disappointed will you be?

SEN. HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON (D-NY), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, it will be me. But of course, I‘m ready to support the Democratic nominee, whoever it is.

COURIC: I know that you‘re confident it‘s going to be you, but there is the possibility it won‘t be. And clearly, you‘re—you have considered that possibility.

CLINTON: No, I haven‘t. You know, when you get up every day, like I do, and you go out and you meet hundreds and thousands of people and you talk about yourself and you talk about your dreams and hopes for the country, and you talk about what you will do as president and draw the contrast with your opponents, that takes up all my time and energy to just keep presenting myself and my candidacy. So I get up every day intending to meet and reach as many people as possible, and I go to bed at night and I get up and I do it all over again.

COURIC: So you never even consider the possibility.

CLINTON: I don‘t. I don‘t.

I remember what struck me most in the second to the last statement is she just talks about her dreams and plans, never a word about LISTENING to the hundred of thousands of people and what they want from their next president who is supposed to represent them, not be their nanny.

74 posted on 02/22/2008 1:27:22 PM PST by MomwithHope (Our country sure has some slim pickin's on both sides for 2008!)
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To: Greg F
Hillary is starting to look as if she will go quietly into the night. Last nights contest was like a friendly sparring match, not a fight where the manager is in the corner telling his fighter that a knock-out is needed or they lose.

Her campaign had no plan after Super Tuesday. Hillary said as late as December she believed the race would be over then.

At this point even she knows that her campaign is on fumes. The super-delegates are starting to jump on the Obama bandwagon, and the polls (plus the delegate selection process) in Texas are starting to look grim for her. Obama is better organized than she is everywhere, including Ohio and Texas, and he is outspending her on ads by a three to one margin. While the media is focusing on Ohio and Texas she is facing total disaster in Vermont, Rhode Island and then Mississippi and Wyoming.

I think she will go through the motions between now and March 4 and then get out of the race.

However I would not be stunned if she dropped out before then.

Hillary does know how to count.
75 posted on 02/22/2008 1:28:41 PM PST by cgbg (Welcome To Rinopolos. Bring the _big_ shovels.)
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To: liberallarry
financial charts

Interesting numbers. I just don't see Pubbies opening their wallets for McCain with the small contributions that have been the basis for previous Republican victories.

Hysteria about Obama is not enough--you have to support someone to give them your hard earned dollars.

I would encourage any Freepers thinking about contributing to McCain to send a check to this great web site instead. That would be a much better investment for the future.


76 posted on 02/22/2008 1:35:39 PM PST by cgbg (Welcome To Rinopolos. Bring the _big_ shovels.)
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To: harpo11
no matter what happens

I interpreted her words as telling her supporters that she wouldn't commit suicide if she lost.

As usual with Hillary, I wasn't convinced.

;-)
77 posted on 02/22/2008 1:41:35 PM PST by cgbg (Welcome To Rinopolos. Bring the _big_ shovels.)
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To: DallasDeb

Man, I’m sorry Michelle Malkin has to even see that sort of abuse. I’m glad she just posts it so people can see the hatred and racism of the left.

Bump


78 posted on 02/22/2008 2:30:44 PM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: cgbg

It’s going to be fun “outing” Obama.


79 posted on 02/22/2008 2:37:35 PM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: Greg F
Don't count the evil one out, yet. Not till you see both her legs....and both her arms poking out from 'neath that twister-tossed house....

What keeps most and has kept her following, particularly those in the Democratic apparatus (lower level electeds, pundits, consultants, government experts, etc.) has been abject fear for their careers (some for their lives). They exalt her because they are total socialists like she, or they are very afraid not to. Now, some are seeing the king (queen) may have no clothes and an overthrow 'might' succeed. Once this feeling is pervasive, the spillover will break the levees just like in NOL. That is why this is happening.

80 posted on 02/22/2008 2:44:36 PM PST by Gaffer
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