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Why the Democrats Are Kicking the Clintons to the Curb
Townhall.com ^ | February 22, 2008 | Lorie Byrd

Posted on 02/22/2008 5:54:48 AM PST by Kaslin

Hillary Clinton’s recent primary losses to Barack Obama may say as much about Democrats’ desires to be done with the Clintons as they do about the cult of personality that is Obama.

Some say Hillary is now paying for the sins of her husband. I agree that may be true to some degree, but in many cases she was an accomplice to those sins and has only herself to blame. I have wondered for some time whether or not Americans would want another soap opera presidency and I think we are seeing the answer in the most recent primary vote counts. There are many reasons Democrats have to send the Clintons packing. Here are a few:

1. Democrats don’t want a return to non-stop scandal defense mode. Democrats like to wrap the Clinton scandals up in a blue dress and say they were all about sex, but that is ridiculous. There were numerous scandals in the Clinton White House well before anyone knew who Monica Lewinski was and many of them involved Hillary. The travel office firings, subpoenaed billing records, Whitewater, and FBI files are only the beginning of the list. It goes on for a while and includes names like Vince Foster, Johnny Chung, and the FALN.

Why on earth would Democrats want to sign up for a second ride on the Clinton scandal train when they could opt for a clean slate candidate? Besides, it would not be so easy to deflect future scandals as it was previous ones. I don’t think Ken Starr will be making a repeat performance as boogeyman and he was a necessary element to the Clinton scandal survival strategy. Without a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy to oppose, there is not so much enthusiasm for defending the Clintons.

I believe there is a whole group of Democrats out there who are secretly enjoying being able to vote against a Clinton. They can take out their frustrations with the Clintons and still vote for a Democrat. For the first time in 16 years, Democrats can vote against a Clinton without having to vote for a Republican to do it.

2. The Clinton is no longer the hip one in the race. Think about it. In Bill Clinton’s presidential primary he was up against Paul Tsongas, Tom Harkin, Bob Kerrey, and some other people I don’t even remember. In the general elections he was up against George H. W. Bush and Bob Dole. Hillary, in sharp contrast, is up against the Obamassiah who makes women swoon.

It is 16 years later and she is now the establishment candidate. What it comes down to is that even though Hillary was married to the “Man from Hope,” now she faces a candidate much better at Hope-A-Dope (as Jon Henke calls it) than she and her husband ever dreamed of being. Instead of the Man from Hope that Bill Clinton was, Hillary is in many ways just “The Man” who stands in the way of the first black President of the United States. (Yeah, that’s right – it wasn’t Bill Clinton, regardless of what Toni Morrison said.)

3. Not only is Hillary not hip enough, but she is not liberal enough for the Democrat base. Democrats, like Republicans, will settle for a moderate if they are desperate enough for a win and if they believe that person has the best chance of getting elected, but not if they have a more liberal candidate who appears to have just as good a chance to win in the general election. Hillary is far from a moderate. She is definitely liberal, but on some issues she has angered her base by not being liberal enough, or at least not being in step with the far left in the base – most notably on the issue of Iraq. Barack Obama has the distinction of having the most liberal voting record in the Senate.

Although things look really bad for Hillary Clinton at this point, and many have said she is done, I will never count a Clinton out until the last vote is cast. But even if Hillary pulls a rabbit out of her hat on March 4, and some super delegates out of it after that, a statement has been made by many Democrats. The Clinton magic as we once knew it is gone. The Elvis in Bill Clinton left the building long ago and Hillary’s inevitability went with it. I suspect many Democrats are cleansing their political souls in the process.


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1 posted on 02/22/2008 5:54:49 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Hillary is starting to look as if she will go quietly into the night. Last nights contest was like a friendly sparring match, not a fight where the manager is in the corner telling his fighter that a knock-out is needed or they lose.


2 posted on 02/22/2008 5:57:21 AM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: Kaslin

Remarkable piece; well done.


3 posted on 02/22/2008 5:57:52 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Kaslin
Not only is Hillary not hip enough, but she is not liberal enough for the Democrat base

One is a lying corrupt Leftist, the other is a empty head vacuous Leftist. That the only difference between the two. Hillary is just better at lying about her agenda then Obama is.

4 posted on 02/22/2008 5:58:17 AM PST by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Kaslin

“Cleansing their souls”?.....I think they would rather jump off a cliff than vote for another Clinton. Just watch the Clintons..........when it becomes clear that they aren’t going to win, they will blame everyone and run off with the money. The Democrats better lock the safe and give out the money a little at a time or the Clinton’s will take it.


5 posted on 02/22/2008 6:00:43 AM PST by RC2
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To: Kaslin
Not only is Hillary not hip enough, but she is not liberal enough for the Democrat base

and there it is ... - the democrat party, unmasked and proud.

6 posted on 02/22/2008 6:01:08 AM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Kaslin

Like so much that passes for “analysis” these days, this is just opinion and intuition, short on cause and effect.

But who cares? It makes sense and I want to believe it, so I will! ;-)


7 posted on 02/22/2008 6:03:06 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Retire Ron Paul! Support Chris Peden (www.chrispeden.org))
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To: Greg F

I can’t see Clinton and all that power slipping quietly away. I suspect that she’s onto Plan B—we just don’t know what it is yet.


8 posted on 02/22/2008 6:03:41 AM PST by twigs
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To: Greg F
Hillary is starting to look as if she will go quietly into the night.

That would be a fatal assumption. Clintons NEVER go ANYWHERE quietly.
9 posted on 02/22/2008 6:04:27 AM PST by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: Kaslin

bttt


10 posted on 02/22/2008 6:04:44 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Kaslin
The Clinton is no longer the hip one in the race.

I'll say it: Black trumps Woman. Liberals emote, don't think and nothing they do is based on substance. They are the teens of the political world. God help this country.
11 posted on 02/22/2008 6:05:25 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Kaslin

The Clintons will NEVER let a BLACK GUY BEAT THEM....NEVER!!


12 posted on 02/22/2008 6:05:34 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Greg F

Are you kidding me??What you saw last night is what Vince Foster saw the night before he ended up in Ft. Marcy Park. When the Clintons look conciliatory. ..that’s the time to don the kevlar body armor.


13 posted on 02/22/2008 6:08:56 AM PST by McBuff
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To: Kaslin

bump


14 posted on 02/22/2008 6:09:29 AM PST by Christian4Bush (41-David, End Of Watch. Rest in Peace, SWAT Officer Randall Simmons.)
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To: OCCASparky
"never go away"

If Obama gets the nomination but loses to McCain badly, I fully expect to see Hillary as the Dem candidate in 2012. The party leftists will throw up their hands and let her have the nomination because they would want a winner despite their misgivings about the Clintons. I'm not saying she'd win, but most of the other Dems are inconsequential clowns.

15 posted on 02/22/2008 6:10:41 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Kaslin

Democrats are the ultimate Kool Aid drinkers. They are just going from one cult (The Clintons) to another.


16 posted on 02/22/2008 6:11:49 AM PST by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Not only is Hillary not hip enough,

Hillary's got hips alright....very wide ones at that

17 posted on 02/22/2008 6:13:02 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: Kaslin

Hillary may very well love her husband and wants to stay married to him for life, but if she has only stayed married to him out of spite for her opponents or to ride on his coattails, that has been a big mistake.

She would be in much better stead if she had stopped defending him, split up with him and gone out on her own. Her husband is a like a block of concrete in a lake to her.


18 posted on 02/22/2008 6:16:13 AM PST by randita (Do not trust any polls!)
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To: bill1952

In last nights debate Hillary reminded me why I hate her so much.
Speaking of George Bush she said this:
CLINTON: “The world will breathe a sigh of relief once he is gone. We all know that.”

What a horrible thing to say about the outgoing President. It sounds like she is speaking about a notorious dictator, like Castro, Ahmadininejad, or Kim Jong II, but no, she said that about George W. Bush – the man who by tradition will be sitting on the same podium at the inauguration when the next President is sworn in – a display of great respect and of a peaceful transition for all the World to see. It is shameful on her part to have chosen those words.


19 posted on 02/22/2008 6:17:46 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: driftless2

If Obama loses in November...I think it would depend on how he looses. If he looses in a squeaker then I don’t hik he’ll pay a very heavy political price. If he gets beat convincingly, then there will be hell to pay and your assertion may very will come to pass.

Consider though, in 2012 she’ll be running for re-election to her senate seat so it will be do or die time then.


20 posted on 02/22/2008 6:18:55 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: Ouderkirk
Hillary, in sharp contrast, is up against the Obamassiah who makes women swoon.

Maybe he looks more womanish than she? After all, wasn't Bill claiming to be the "first black president"? These Dems seem to have things all confused.

21 posted on 02/22/2008 6:22:14 AM PST by sr4402
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To: Kaslin
Whatever the reasons, do not look for anything high-minded in the Democrats' treatment of the Clintons (or anything else).

The Democrat Party is about nothing more lofty than the crass grasp for power.

These people would throw their own mothers under the bus. Kicking the Clintons to the curb is nothing to them. They'll resurrect them just as quickly--and kick Obama to the curb--if it should become expedient.

22 posted on 02/22/2008 6:26:55 AM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Kaslin

Nah...the Democrats are kicking the Clintons to the curb because the DNC party bosses are salivating at the notion of a Obama presidency. His lack of executive experience (something that is not mentioned too much in the MSM...along with his smoking habit) will be compensated by Obama essentially becoming the “yes-man” to the DNC party bosses. IMHO...his association with Ted Kennedy gives that one away. Obama is “controlable” by the DNC...the Clinton’s...not so much.


23 posted on 02/22/2008 6:28:52 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (Game over man...GAME OVER!)
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To: Kaslin

And one of the most disgusting things about these people—and their stooges in the “newsmedia”, the so-called “journalists”—is the way they hide their crass dealings and low-life propaganda behind lofty rhetoric and pretenses.


24 posted on 02/22/2008 6:29:59 AM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Kaslin
Hillary is an empty vessel... no matter how much the DBM touts her 'experience'. Going into the primary, she was seen as her husbands double... a doppleganger... a two-for-the price-of-one-both-parts-interchangeable deal.

What emerged was an inept, bug-eyed jackass...


25 posted on 02/22/2008 6:32:18 AM PST by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Kaslin
If Hillary looses the nomination, she and Bubba will savage the democrats. She will not take loosing gracefully, not by a long shot.
26 posted on 02/22/2008 6:33:38 AM PST by skimask (Support Terrorism......Vote Democratic)
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To: Kaslin
Reason No. 4.


27 posted on 02/22/2008 6:35:03 AM PST by Leisler
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To: BureaucratusMaximus

I don’t think so. Obama is not controllable. He is passive aggressive. You are just seeing a patient and cunning “passive.” Wait until they crown him King.


28 posted on 02/22/2008 6:35:15 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: MNJohnnie

They are like two peas in a pod.


29 posted on 02/22/2008 6:35:52 AM PST by apocalypto
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To: Kaslin

“Why the Democrats Are Kicking the Clintons to the Curb”

Obviously because they are most comfortable in the gutter.


30 posted on 02/22/2008 6:36:06 AM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: bill1952

Everyone keeps misspelling “Dhimmicrat”...


31 posted on 02/22/2008 6:37:16 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: OCCASparky

There will be blood at the convention.

I don’t want to see anyone physically hurt (I’m concerned that this will probably happen), but I do want to see the Clintons exposed in all their coniving, evil glory,

and I want to see the Dhimmicrats fractured, angry, and dispirited at the realization.


32 posted on 02/22/2008 6:38:56 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: twigs
Plan B


33 posted on 02/22/2008 6:42:04 AM PST by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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To: Kaslin

This makes me so sad... mmmmwaff!, heh heh! HAR!!! Snort! Giggle Giggle...


34 posted on 02/22/2008 6:44:50 AM PST by JDoutrider (No 2nd Amendment... Know Tyranny)
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To: Kaslin

The Clintons ruled by manipulation, fear, and by purchasing their friends and favors. Not a way to build true loyalty.


35 posted on 02/22/2008 6:45:32 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Greg F
Hillary is starting to look as if she will go quietly into the night. Last nights contest was like a friendly sparring match, not a fight where the manager is in the corner telling his fighter that a knock-out is needed or they lose.

Thats when O'bama should fear her the most. Come a little closer, said the spider to the fly.
36 posted on 02/22/2008 6:48:36 AM PST by Sig Sauer P220
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To: Kaslin

37 posted on 02/22/2008 6:51:44 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Obama and Hillary - it's right there in black and white)
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To: Greg F
Hillary is starting to look as if she will go quietly into the night.

I don't know about going away quietly but I believe the reality of the situation is setting in.
At the start of the debate she seemed upbeat and full of anticipation as if she knew she had a game plan that was going to turn things around.

But about the time she got booed on her "Xerox" quip - which was actually a pretty good retort - you could see the belief fade from her and she took on a look of resignation.

It is clear that Obama could say or do anything and get a big round of applause but the slightest criticism of him gets a negative reaction.

The libtard crowd is mesmerized and sent into flights of ecstacy at the thought that a black will be elected to the presidency. It doesn't matter if he is qualified or the best choice - it is the color of his skin that matters to them. Just the thought that they can be a part of it by voting for him sends them swooning.

I don't know if anyone can successfully campaign against him because his supporters have left judgement and rational thought behind.

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38 posted on 02/22/2008 6:51:52 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Kaslin

The answer is simple. Hillary is no longer the only liberal game in town. Also all the FOBs either die, get jailed, get kicked by the Clintons, or have to defend in indefensible.


39 posted on 02/22/2008 6:57:19 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am the watchman on the tower sounding the alarm.)
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To: Iron Munro

We can make fun of the followers of Obama . . . : P


40 posted on 02/22/2008 7:00:05 AM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: Kaslin

It really boils down to which Party can get out the voters doesn’t it.

The GOP has made serious blunders with the decision to run “Mod”, which means Left, which means RINO to Conservatives, and we know two Leftist Political Parties do not a stable Government make.


41 posted on 02/22/2008 7:00:39 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: NavyCanDo

In last nights debate Hillary reminded me why I hate her so much.
Speaking of George Bush she said this:
CLINTON: “The world will breathe a sigh of relief once he is gone. We all know that.”

What a horrible thing to say about the outgoing President. It sounds like she is speaking about a notorious dictator, like Castro, Ahmadininejad, or Kim Jong II, but no, she said that about George W. Bush – the man who by tradition will be sitting on the same podium at the inauguration when the next President is sworn in – a display of great respect and of a peaceful transition for all the World to see. It is shameful on her part to have chosen those words.

I totally agree with you on this point. Very well said! She and her reprobate husband have no class and are not capable of commanding respect because they show none. She is unsuited to be Commander in Chief, and it is very telling that when the reporter from Univision asked her about being Commander in Chief she immediately wanted to turn back to her diatribe about socializing healthcare. She and Obama are out of their element trying to portray themselves as Commander in Chief. Her disrespect for the military has a long trail. Pres. Bush on the other hand has been very respected by his military and the dirty secret Hillary doesn’t want to talk about is that those who hate him around the world respect and fear him. There was never fear of or respect for Bill Clinton. This is why the terrorism expansion in the 90’s was so severe and got us to 9/11.


42 posted on 02/22/2008 7:02:13 AM PST by untwist
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To: OCCASparky

That would be a fatal assumption. Clintons NEVER go ANYWHERE quietly.
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There have been increased vanities on this very topic, with arkancide an obvious and recurring theme. This is really the story of the election - might as well try to find something fun about it -

What will the Clintons do if she is not the nominee? Would she accept the Veep job? Would it be offered? Would Obama be wise to take out additional life insurance?

It appears (IMHO) that the bloom is off the rose, that the negatives that follow them have caught up with them, and that she may have to content herself with her position in the Senate. The world seems to have moved on.

And I would not have thought it possible only a few short weeks ago.


43 posted on 02/22/2008 7:02:47 AM PST by dmz
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To: MNJohnnie

Now, if we only had a real republican to run against Obama. Oh, well, 4 years of Obama can’t be all that bad. Can it?


44 posted on 02/22/2008 7:06:55 AM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: twigs
I suspect that she’s onto Plan B

You know, I'm not so sure. The one thing that seems to be emerging from the Dem race is that Hillary was so arrogant about her coronation that she didn't even have a "plan B" in case Super Duper Tuesday failed to cinch it for her. Now, she's caught flat-footed. She apparently doesn't have the necessary dirt on Obama, and she can't be too critical of him... lest she display her sheer desperation.

I dare say, "it's over" for Hillary.

45 posted on 02/22/2008 7:07:27 AM PST by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Kaslin

but in many cases she was an accomplice to those sins and has only herself to blame.

AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN! You are correct. This is what it has come down to. So, putting up with all the garbage her husband threw at her and her taking it all while holding onto his coattails ha done nothing but pull her to the agony of defeat. She went against everything just to ride the coattails of a loser. Now it’s over. Nothing gained at all. Obama will be the nominee. Will be beat McCain? We’ll have to wait and see. Either way I’m glad there won’t be clintins in the White House again.


46 posted on 02/22/2008 7:12:30 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever fully realize.)
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To: Kaslin
She is definitely liberal, but on some issues she has angered her base by not being liberal enough, or at least not being in step with the far left in the base – most notably on the issue of Iraq.

The irony is that she voted that way because she assumed that no one would dare run against her from the left and the only competition would be from the Republicans. She hoped to blunt any "soft on defending America" claim and thus set up her own doom with every Dem running on the left of her on that issue.

47 posted on 02/22/2008 7:24:31 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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To: Ouderkirk

“Consider though, in 2012 she’ll be running for re-election to her senate seat so it will be do or die time then”

Fearless prediction:
If she does try again in 2012, she will get Eliiot Spitzer to ram through the NY state legislature a bill to let sitting senators in that state run for both offices simultaneously (assuming that senators in NY cannot do that now).

Bank on it.

- John


48 posted on 02/22/2008 7:33:43 AM PST by Fishrrman
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To: Kaslin

49 posted on 02/22/2008 7:39:52 AM PST by Gritty (Obama announces a principle, then endorses exact opposite policies. It's Clintonian!-Ken Blackwell)
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To: Fishrrman
I don't know of any law currently on the books in NY that would prevent her from running for the senate and president simultaneously. My assumption is that there is not. She will run for election and re-election at the same time. There is no way on earth that Hillary will not run again in 2012 for senate or president. Her fat arse and ego will not let it go....ever.

Let's assume for the moment that Obama wins it all in November.

In primary 2012 she'll berate him like he was Bill wearing the blue dress, with a See I told you so!

Expect that she when the Obama honeymoon (I give it less than 3-4 months with her, the media 12 months or so) is over to start to criticize him in ways that only she can.

50 posted on 02/22/2008 8:02:03 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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