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Posted on 02/15/2008 4:45:23 PM PST by traviskicks
One gun, one person trained how to use it and willing to do so could have stopped most of this:
DEKALB, Ill. - Another person shot when a gunman opened fire at a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University has died, bringing the toll to seven, including the gunman, a coroner said Friday.
Investigators and school officials did not immediately know why the man indiscriminately fired into the crowd with a shotgun and two handguns Thursday, wounding 15 people and sending panicked students fleeing for the exits before killing himself.
“We have no motive and I have no way of knowing what the motive was,” University Police Chief Donald Grady said.
At one time I was very against arming teachers or allowing qualified students to carry on campus. I’m not any more. These maniacs go to those schools KNOWING that their’s will be the only gun there - until police arrive. And that can take minutes.
If you know anything about guns, or ever fire on a range, take any semi-automatic pistol with, say, two extra loaded magazines, and see how long it will take you to fire every single round in those magazines. It doesn’t take but a few seconds. Then imagine firing into a crowded room filled with unarmed people.
Like shooting fish in a barrel.
This one, like some others before him, even stopped to reload. One gun. That’s all it would have taken. But that campus, like all the others, is a “gun free zone”.
To everyone except the killer.
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The fruits of “gun free zones”.
This is strange, I heard a live report from NIU yesterday saying that the campus police were armed.
These last few “incidents” have convinced me that it’s time for me to get a concealed weapon permit. I don’t feel like getting shot just because some pinhead with a master’s degree didn’t take his “meds.” The liberals can do that because they are more tolerant and understanding than I am.
I know weapons. I collect weapons. I can shoot weapons very well...pistols..rifles...shotguns...I have a CCW permit. I could go into any gun free zone and probably beat the record set by Whitman or the VT killer. I am sane and believe in God and I will not do this. I have in the past stopped someone from doing this but if I go into a gun free zone I am stripped of my experience and right to defend myself and my family and friends. When are the liberals going to see that it takes a good person to stop a bad person from maximizing their evil?
Whether campus police are armed or not is really irrelevant unless the college has a sufficient number of them to be in every classroom in a matter of seconds.
When your life will end in a few seconds, you can count on the fact that armed response will be available in just a few minutes.
So when are we going to blow the whistle on the drug pushers?
I'm talking about the "legal" drug pushers: the pharmaceutical companies, their protectors and colleagues - DC politicians and their distributors, the medical profession?
The first headline today was" 
NIU gunman stopped taking medication
By this afternoon, that headline has been changed to "gunman's rampage baffles friends
The media got their marching orders - as usual.
the short reference to drugs is way down in the story.
Do a GOOGLE on drugs young shooters
and do some homework.
It's time for the victims of these shootings to file a class action suit on the drug companies.
These side effects of suicide and violence are well documented and known/acknowledged by the drug companies and the doctors- but money trumps all.
Almost every single case of these shootings have involved young people on these drugs - but if you don't capture the very first mention of the story - you will miss the common denominator - LEGAL DRUGS - then the drugs connection is quickly squashed. And then the libs scream for gun control.
Our children have become the new cash cow for the drug companies - and they have powerful protectors and connections with the FDA and others in DC.
WAKE UP AMERICA!
Save our kids...
BTW - for anyone who wants to blame the parents for their kids being on these meds...take Ritalin, for example. If the school decides, along with it's cohorts, that the kid should be on meds and you refuse, they can and HAVE been charged with child abuse and can and HAVE had the children taken from the family.
WAKE UP AMERICA....
It's not guns.
It's LEGAL DRUGS PUSHERS
Another gun law doing exactly what it was warned that it would do ... create a free fire zone where the murderer had nothing to worry about because all the law abiding victims were unarmed.
For example, in this Australian paper - the drug connection is not only in the headline, but the first paragraph. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/world/gunman-stopped-taking-meds-before-rampage/2008/02/16/1202760644147.html
"The gunman who killed five people at a US university before turning the gun on himself had stopped taking his medication recently and had become erratic, police said today.
ditto the Irish Times, etc.:
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/0216/breaking7.htm
For who is really to blame for these shootings, see my post # 9
WAKE UP AMERICA
Here’s something that would be funny if it wasn’t dangerous.
I work at a large northeastern state university. Today, we got an email from the Provost (Vice President of Vice Presidents) saying that the emergency text message system was up and running for campus emergencies.
I’ll bet everybody here can think of the first thing we tell students at the beginning of class...
Yup. That’s right. We have our students turn off the cell phones. No vibrating, no nothing.
We are, of course, a gun-free zone.
You are are that there’s a good 10,000 year history of violent mental illness before the invention of psychiatric medication, right?
This guy had to stop and reload 3-4 times and I find it baffling that nobody, out of the scores or hundreds of people who were close by and knew what was going on, could retain a presence of mind enough to watch and track this guy so that they could jump him when he reloaded.
They ALL have to reload. Same at VA Tech but is it just that everyone's THAT scared? or are they all just waiting for someone else to do something? or is it me being an armchair hero?
i don't get it.
1) If they were hiding, they may not have recognized the sounds of a gun being reloaded. Too many young people have no experience whatsoever with arms.
2) Our government K-12 schools have thoroughly succeeded in emasculating the young men.
People have 3 choices:
1) Flee
2) Fight back
3) Whimper and plead for your life.
Of the 3, which is the liberal response? Of the 3 what is being taught in our schools?
A group of people with no training or experience in an unexpected situation. Perfectly normal behavior to not think in a strategic fashion.
Means nothing. Street cops are armed and they get killed, too. In fact, cops have such tight ROE (Rules Of Engagement) that sometimes they're easier victims than a ccw citizen! The really odd thing is that the liberal sheep in the region seem to favor still stricter gun control laws as if that's going to help! I wonder what a cross between a sheep and an ostrich looks like? OBAMA territory for sure! Wonder how he'll react to this on the stump?
Goes to show that “gun free zones” do not work.
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