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1 posted on 02/15/2008 4:45:25 PM PST by traviskicks
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2 posted on 02/15/2008 4:45:51 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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The fruits of “gun free zones”.


3 posted on 02/15/2008 4:47:28 PM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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This is strange, I heard a live report from NIU yesterday saying that the campus police were armed.


4 posted on 02/15/2008 4:51:29 PM PST by R_Kangel (`.)
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These last few “incidents” have convinced me that it’s time for me to get a concealed weapon permit. I don’t feel like getting shot just because some pinhead with a master’s degree didn’t take his “meds.” The liberals can do that because they are more tolerant and understanding than I am.


6 posted on 02/15/2008 4:57:30 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Join in the spirit of "hope!" Change is good! Embrace climate change!)
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I know weapons. I collect weapons. I can shoot weapons very well...pistols..rifles...shotguns...I have a CCW permit. I could go into any gun free zone and probably beat the record set by Whitman or the VT killer. I am sane and believe in God and I will not do this. I have in the past stopped someone from doing this but if I go into a gun free zone I am stripped of my experience and right to defend myself and my family and friends. When are the liberals going to see that it takes a good person to stop a bad person from maximizing their evil?


7 posted on 02/15/2008 5:07:39 PM PST by vetvetdoug (Just when one thinks life is strange, it gets stranger.)
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To: traviskicks

Another gun law doing exactly what it was warned that it would do ... create a free fire zone where the murderer had nothing to worry about because all the law abiding victims were unarmed.


10 posted on 02/15/2008 5:32:36 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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They are fast down-peddling the headlines that relay the fact that the shooter had recently stopped taking meds - and even where it's mentioned, it's way down in the story - unless it's a British or other foreign newspaper that can't be threatened.

For example, in this Australian paper - the drug connection is not only in the headline, but the first paragraph. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/world/gunman-stopped-taking-meds-before-rampage/2008/02/16/1202760644147.html

"The gunman who killed five people at a US university before turning the gun on himself had stopped taking his medication recently and had become erratic, police said today.

ditto the Irish Times, etc.:

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/0216/breaking7.htm

For who is really to blame for these shootings, see my post # 9

WAKE UP AMERICA

11 posted on 02/15/2008 5:38:31 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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Here’s something that would be funny if it wasn’t dangerous.

I work at a large northeastern state university. Today, we got an email from the Provost (Vice President of Vice Presidents) saying that the emergency text message system was up and running for campus emergencies.

I’ll bet everybody here can think of the first thing we tell students at the beginning of class...

Yup. That’s right. We have our students turn off the cell phones. No vibrating, no nothing.

We are, of course, a gun-free zone.


12 posted on 02/15/2008 5:44:20 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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I'll grant that I'm a 50 something out of shape, carrying a few pounds more than I should be and I love life as much as anyone but ...

This guy had to stop and reload 3-4 times and I find it baffling that nobody, out of the scores or hundreds of people who were close by and knew what was going on, could retain a presence of mind enough to watch and track this guy so that they could jump him when he reloaded.

They ALL have to reload. Same at VA Tech but is it just that everyone's THAT scared? or are they all just waiting for someone else to do something? or is it me being an armchair hero?

i don't get it.

14 posted on 02/15/2008 7:56:15 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead!)
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Goes to show that “gun free zones” do not work.


20 posted on 02/16/2008 4:32:03 AM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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Friends baffield by shooter, shooting incident, and a possible “relationship break-up” which lead to shooter getting off “his meds”. URL posted.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23171567


21 posted on 02/16/2008 4:52:00 AM PST by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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Obligatory Mary Carpenter Links:

May you stand before God and man as my two precious grandchildren's killer if you pass any more gun legislation that will make me a felon should I own a handgun or any other gun for that matter.

Sincerely,

Mary Carpenter

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_Amend/deaths_in_merced.htm

http://www.grnc.org/mary_carpenter_letter.htm

23 posted on 02/16/2008 6:50:20 AM PST by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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First of all, Illinois is a very unfriendly state when it comes to guns. You need a photo ID -- a Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card issued by the Illinois State Police -- just to handle a gun at a store or purchase ammunition.

Second, the City of Chicago bans handguns (as do the cities of Morton Grove, Wilmette, Oak Park, and Evanston). There are no gun stores in Chicago, nor can you purchase ammunition within city limits.

Third, Illinois is one of only two states remaining that do not allow concealed carry at all, much less on a state university campus.

Lastly, an over-21 concealed carry law probably wouldn't have helped since the NIU shooting took place in a classroom of freshmen and sophomores -- 18, 19, and 20-year-olds. The instructor, who was older, was among the first shot.

I am in favor of concealed carry for Illinois. I'm simply pointing out that it will be an uphill battle, given the mindset of public officials.

28 posted on 02/16/2008 7:37:43 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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Ok let’s do this the simple way.

Arm every student with a dazzling laser.


41 posted on 02/17/2008 6:54:36 PM PST by ScratInTheHat (Don't like my immigration stance? I'm dyslexic. PC keeps sounding like BS to me!)
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