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DNA Translation Has Codes Upon Codes
Creation Evolution Headlines ^ | December 17, 2007

Posted on 12/18/2007 11:11:23 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

The DNA code is protected by another code, and is read with a machine that reads a third code. This is an emerging picture from ongoing research into DNA translation, as reported in Science...

(Excerpt) Read more at creationsafaris.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: code; creation; ctd; dna; evolution
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1 posted on 12/18/2007 11:11:26 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: js1138; allmendream; betty boop; metmom; Alamo-Girl; DaveLoneRanger

Although not exactly the same as my conjectures on previous threads, it would appear scientists are indeed finding codes upon codes, just as THIS creationist predicted :o)


2 posted on 12/18/2007 11:14:15 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’ve long wondered if DNA is serial in nature. Life seems to prefer harmonics over serial tones. I’d be willing to bet that DNA is more like a Bach fugue — a rich, contrapuntal array of complex chords — than it is like a simple tune picked out note by note.


3 posted on 12/18/2007 11:16:37 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

What’s the frequency, Kenneth?


4 posted on 12/18/2007 11:18:54 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: B-Chan

I have a feeling what is at work is far beyond our wildest imagination. I very much like your analogy. I was thinking in terms of computers having codes upon codes (like binary, windows, MS Word, etc). But your analogy is soooo much better!


5 posted on 12/18/2007 11:20:31 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

All of nature is just like colliding billiard balls. Nothing requiring an intelligence behind it. Nothing to see here! Move along!


6 posted on 12/18/2007 11:22:47 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Nonstatist

The frequency occupies the gateway to the infinite.


7 posted on 12/18/2007 11:24:29 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Arthur McGowan

LOL. I would move along. But just thinking about the complexity of life leaves me standing in awe.


8 posted on 12/18/2007 11:26:22 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Fearfully and Wonderfully Made, what?
9 posted on 12/18/2007 11:32:43 PM PST by skeptoid (U.E., A.A., MBS with Clusters)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Opportunity smiles for FR cartoonists : ancient genes popping out/crawling out of one’s JEANS, coiled around one’s belt, slithering out of pockets, laced above socks... Do we have any cartoonist here with imagination?


10 posted on 12/18/2007 11:39:40 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Johann Sebastian Bach's music isn't just a bunch of pretty sounds. The man had a direct connection with the Almighty, and it's obvious in every note he ever wrote (even the Coffee Cantata — and yes, he did write a cantata about coffee. It's BWV 211).

If I make it to the Pearly Gates, I won't be surprised to find out that the patterns and sequences of Bach's works formed a sort of audible Map of Heaven.

(Our son is named Johann, after Bach — a decision Mrs Chan and I made long before Baby Chan was conceived.)

If DNA really is more like a fugue than a simple sequence of notes, I won't be surprised. The Universe seems to be both recursive and harmonious. The term "music of the spheres" may turn out to be a more apt analogy than anyone knew.

11 posted on 12/19/2007 12:07:34 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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but....but...but.. Didn’t all this happen with a Big Bang?


12 posted on 12/19/2007 1:42:12 AM PST by Justeggsactly
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To: GodGunsGuts
No way. People merely see "codes" in what is a random conflagration of chemical compounds. This was all a big accident. We and our DNA are just "lucky" byproducts of that accident.

< \sarcasm>

13 posted on 12/19/2007 2:06:01 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping.


14 posted on 12/19/2007 6:36:33 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
It all has to do with transcription control (which they confuse with translation, cannot even get basic Science correct in this Creationist garbage) the modification of DNA binding proteins called histones and the mechanism of transcription, the enzyme RNA polymerase. The only “Code” is that a triplet RNA codon specifies an amino acid. This is simple DNA modification and interaction with DNA binding proteins that regulate when the gene is on or off. Translation takes place at the Ribosome, but I guess when you are completely ignorant of basic Biology it might be easy to confuse the two.
15 posted on 12/19/2007 8:42:10 AM PST by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD (Hunter 08))
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To: GodGunsGuts

lol


16 posted on 12/19/2007 8:54:34 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Islam is the E-Ticket ride at Nutsberry Farm)
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To: allmendream
... but I guess when you are completely ignorant of basic Biology it might be easy to confuse the two.

That's what happens when you learn your "science" from fundamentalist or creationist websites.

17 posted on 12/19/2007 10:07:06 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: allmendream

==It all has to do with transcription control (which they confuse with translation, cannot even get basic Science correct in this Creationist garbage) the modification of DNA binding proteins called histones and the mechanism of transcription, the enzyme RNA polymerase.

My dear Allmendream,

You certainly get very emotional whenever the Church of Darwin gets challenged. While your minor point is technically correct, it fails to address the main point. In other words, you strain at gnats but have no trouble swallowing camels. Moreover, Creation Evolution Headlines is writing for the layman, so they were probably trying to avoid getting too technical...surely they know the difference between trasciption and translation! Yes, transcription is conducted by RNA polymerase and translation is done by ribosome. But both are needed to make proteins. After all, what good is a transcript all by itself? This fact in no way changes the main point of the article.

==The only “Code” is that a triplet RNA codon specifies an amino acid. This is simple DNA modification and interaction with DNA binding proteins that regulate when the gene is on or off. Translation takes place at the Ribosome, but I guess when you are completely ignorant of basic Biology it might be easy to confuse the two.

Then your beef is not with Creation Evolution Headlines. They were simply relaying how Darwinist science journals refer to this process. They are the ones who found a code that regulates DNA code. It was they who referred to CTD and histones as “codes.” So if you find this area of science to be garbage, then you should take it up with your Darwinist co-religionists over at Science.

In short, I still maintain my original position, and since you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about, the article from Creation Evolutuion Headlines still stands.


18 posted on 12/19/2007 2:21:57 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Headline from Cretard source “DNA Translation Has Codes Upon Codes”. Entire finding is about DNA transcription not translation.

I point this out. GGG says I am getting emotional, Science is a Church (which GGG means as a slur), admits I am correct, and says that I don’t know what I am talking about.

Go back to your HIV-AIDS denying granola eating anti-corporate coffee enema having postmodernist raw foodist clan of geocentricist anti-Science Luddites.

19 posted on 12/19/2007 2:50:15 PM PST by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD (Hunter 08))
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To: allmendream
I might add to your excellent point, allmendream, that this fascinating work would certainly not be nearly so far along but for the fact that the scientists doing it assume evolution to be true.

Typically -- whether dealing with DNA, RNA like the polymerases, or proteins like the histones packaging the DNA and influencing it's expression -- the key step in zeroing in for investigation on those sequences likely to functionally important is identifying sequences conserved across evolutionary lineages. Evolution (the assumption of common descent) tells you where to look. Knowing where to look is often the first and crucial step in fruitful scientific research.

20 posted on 12/19/2007 3:53:27 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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