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Why the Huckabee "Surge"?: Harriet Miers
Mighty_Quinn

Posted on 12/18/2007 6:53:25 PM PST by Mighty_Quinn

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To: Gondring

“It was just a matter of time before the Socialist Conservatives decided that the whole freedom thing wasn’t going to work, and that they needed higher taxes and a bigger government to tell the little people what to do.”

*ding ding ding* hit the nail on the head.


21 posted on 12/18/2007 7:18:52 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Well, he didn't mean for YOU to be tricked. I guess your being tricked was sort of like collateral damage.

He meant to trick the democrats. And, boy, did it work.

22 posted on 12/18/2007 7:22:30 PM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Enough with this “Bush secret plan” stuff already. It’s revisionist claptrap.

Yep, Bush was just looking for a candidate he thought he could get through without a fight. Miers had no record that the Democrats could attack. Little did Bush know that the fight would come from the GOP side when Miers conservative credentials did not stand up.

23 posted on 12/18/2007 7:24:10 PM PST by Always Right
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To: tear gas

“Well, he didn’t mean for YOU to be tricked. I guess your being tricked was sort of like collateral damage. He meant to trick the democrats. And, boy, did it work.”

No, he just has 0 respect for his supporters and thought he could ramrod his idiot sycophant into the court without a fight.

There was no secret plan. We got a decent nominee because we revolted!

It was tearing apart the GOP.

Between that, amnesty, spending, and the growth of government in size and scope, those who favor small government have a lot of damage to repair.

Bush isn’t a Reagan - he isn’t even a Nixon!


24 posted on 12/18/2007 7:28:00 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: tear gas
He meant to trick the democrats. And, boy, did it work.

Democrats neither supported or opposed Miers. They were happy to sit back and watch the nomination explode in Bush's face. And the Democrats gave it their all in opposing Alito. That was probably the most partisan vote on a Supreme Court nomination since Clarence Thomas.

25 posted on 12/18/2007 7:28:01 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Mighty_Quinn
Why the Huckabee "Surge"?

Same reason there was a Ted Haggard "surge". There are a remarkable number of utter imbeciles out there.

26 posted on 12/18/2007 7:35:15 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Goodness. You’re anti-Christian on all the threads, aren’t you?


27 posted on 12/18/2007 7:36:04 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: InterceptPoint

I totally agree with the reasoning behind the Huckabee surge. Folks are thinking they want their grandkids to have a chance in this messed up country and they’re willing to forego some conservative planks to ensure they have someone they feel is trustworthy and not just another career politican leading the way.

RE-ELECT NO ONE!


28 posted on 12/18/2007 7:38:31 PM PST by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: Always Right
Huckabee is simply the smoothest talker of the bunch....

You are absolutely correct. The first time I saw Huckabee on one of the debates a few months back, I thought he was head and shoulders above the rest when it came to articulation and presentation. He just doesn't give the impression that he has to think about his answer, and what he thinks might be what people want to hear. He displayed a good and spontaneous sense of humor. He came across as extemely smooth, more so than any candidate since Clinton, perhaps he is even better than Clinton. With Clinton you always knew you were being b.s.'d. Huckabee doesn't have that earnestness and percievable deception that Clinton has. Huckabee is a good politician, and I am not at all surprised he is doing so well.

I have no idea who he is or what he represents, but I do know Giuliani, and like you would would prefer anybody else. You must be always right because you think like I do. :o)

29 posted on 12/18/2007 7:39:23 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: montag813

Man of Peace — Bob Dylan

Look out your window, baby, there’s a scene you’d like to catch,
The band is playing “Dixie,” a man got his hand outstretched.
Could be the Fuhrer
Could be the local priest.
You know sometimes
Satan comes as a man of peace.

He got a sweet gift of gab, he got a harmonious tongue,
He knows every song of love that ever has been sung.
Good intentions can be evil,
Both hands can be full of grease.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Well, first he’s in the background, then he’s in the front,
Both eyes are looking like they’re on a rabbit hunt.
Nobody can see through him,
No, not even the Chief of Police.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Well, he catch you when you’re hoping for a glimpse of the sun,
Catch you when your troubles feel like they weigh a ton.
He could be standing next to you,
The person that you’d notice least.
I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Well, he can be fascinating, he can be dull,
He can ride down Niagara Falls in the barrels of your skull.
I can smell something cooking,
I can tell there’s going to be a feast.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

He’s a great humanitarian, he’s a great philanthropist,
He knows just where to touch you, honey, and how you like to be kissed.
He’ll put both his arms around you,
You can feel the tender touch of the beast.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Well, the howling wolf will howl tonight, the king snake will crawl,
Trees that’ve stood for a thousand years suddenly will fall.
Wanna get married? Do it now,
Tomorrow all activity will cease.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Somewhere Mama’s weeping for her blue-eyed boy,
She’s holding them little white shoes and that little broken toy
And he’s following a star,
The same one them three men followed from the East.
I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.


30 posted on 12/18/2007 7:39:40 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: Mighty_Quinn

Interesting point—valid but likely that it only explains part of the Huckaboom. Similar and other reasons for Huckaboom in these:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1940652/posts?page=1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1941516/posts?page=1


31 posted on 12/18/2007 7:47:46 PM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: Theo
Goodness. You’re anti-Christian on all the threads, aren’t you?

Nope. Pro-Christian. Anti-Huckabee. The man is an absolute fraud, and is using religion and clever quips to try to deflect legitimate criticism of his appalling record.

32 posted on 12/18/2007 7:50:52 PM PST by montag813
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To: Theo
Goodness. You’re anti-Christian on all the threads, aren’t you?

Another thing: notice how many of his past statements about illegals and those trying to stop illegal immigration sound very familiar to proponents of Marxist "Liberation Theology" in Latin America. I truly fear this man.

33 posted on 12/18/2007 7:52:31 PM PST by montag813
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To: Mighty_Quinn
And so when a Baptist minister is in the mix, he's going to end up surging--despite any other concerns about him, he's trustworthy.

Yep, trustworthy. You can depend on him to:

1. Stretch the truth about his "theology degree."
2. Fire a state law enforcement officer for not giving him enough help in covering for a dog-hanging son.
3. Raise taxes.
4. Pardon a bazillion criminals, even a 4X convicted DUI.
5. Make deals with Mexico to enable Tyson and others to keep their workforces replete with undocumented workers.
6. Say that illegal immigration is God giving the U.S. a chance to make up for slavery.
7. etc., etc., etc..
34 posted on 12/18/2007 7:55:46 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Mighty_Quinn
The nomination of Miers confirmed a sneaking suspicion held by many Christians and social conservatives that many Republican politicians aren't really concerned about pro-life issues or about opposing the homosexual "rights" lobby.

This has it exactly backwards. Miers might well have been perfectly fine on those issues. Her problem was that she was appallingly unqualified to do anything else that a Supreme Court Justice is supposed to do.

Those who supported the Miers nomination did not support her for her political positions. They supported her because they thought that the president's judgment in selecting the nominee should be respected.

In the end, the nomination set conservatives at each other's throats, over a nominee with an extremely light resume who had problems with simple English grammar. The nomination was a disaster for Republicans, a completely unnecessary disaster. For once it's true: Bush did it.

The fiaso said plenty about Bush's overall judgment, but nothing about his commitment to conservatism.

35 posted on 12/18/2007 8:08:42 PM PST by TChad
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To: aruanan
Look--I know I'm just going to sound like a Huckabee shill, but this whole theology-degree story is really misunderstood. Huckabee DOES have a Theology degree. It is an undergraduate degree. Unfortunately, people made it out that Huckabee claimed he had an advanced degree and so he had to clarify the record. It was stupid to not clarify, but it's pretty ridiculous to think that he actually thought he was going to get away with a lie here. Check this story out: http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/287527.aspx Like I said, Huckabee isn't perfect, but let's play fair here and be honest. We've got to get through the lies. As far the "Tax-Hike-Mike" charge... Michael Medved--who is not supporting Huckabee--has clearly shown that in reality Romney raised taxes much more than Huckabee. http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/c6692253-551a-45e4-ba9f-37e740fe9411 Huckabee is NOT perfect, but he's not the advocate of taxes people make him out to be. So why the unfair attack? See, this is why many Christians feel like the deeper issue here is, in fact, a concern to distance the party from Christianity.
36 posted on 12/18/2007 8:09:16 PM PST by Mighty_Quinn (PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR CONFIDENCE IN MIERS)
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To: Free Vulcan
Even so, Huckabee isn’t consistent on abortion anyway.

How so?

37 posted on 12/18/2007 8:18:35 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureā„¢)
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To: steve86

Two years ago he was for leaving abortion to the states. Within the last few months he has reversed that position and now wants a constitutional amendment. Then he bashes Thompson for having the same position Huckabee used to have.


38 posted on 12/18/2007 8:32:59 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Friends don't let friends vote Huckabee)
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To: montag813

Yeah, he jokes too much. Ask him a tough question. He tells a joke. That gets sort of old after awhile.


39 posted on 12/18/2007 8:53:48 PM PST by mailbox1282000
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To: Mighty_Quinn
And so when a Baptist minister is in the mix, he's going to end up surging--despite any other concerns about him, he's trustworthy.

I followed the argument up to tis point--a monster non sequitur. The fact that Bush sold out with the Meiers nomination and the border security give-away in no way means that Huckabee is any less liable to sell out as well. I have absolutely no reason to think a Baptist minister is any more trustworthy than the corner pusher, and this article gives me none.

40 posted on 12/18/2007 8:54:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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