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The early wheel: Solid, wooden and round versus spoked, wooden and round?
12-11-07 | Dean Baker

Posted on 12/10/2007 12:32:15 PM PST by Dean Baker

Just a simple question to kick-around unless someone knows for sure?

I'm watching the Nativity Scene the other day (Good movie, by the way) and I notice that the villagers around Mary, Joseph and family have pull carts with solid, wooden wheels.

I guess I've always assumed this type of wheel came first as far as history goes...

Then I started thinking about other movies like Gladiator, The 10 Commandments, various other "BC" movies and notice that they've got wooden, spoked wheels...Even though all of these movies took place much, much earlier in history than the Nativity Scene.

The only answer I can come up with myself is that maybe the more wealthy had wooden wheels with spokes and the less wealthy had solid wooden wheels?

Or is it all a big plot hole and once the spoked wooden wheel came around, the much less useful, comfortable and more easily damaged, (But probably much less expensive) solid wooden wheel went the way of the Doh Doh??


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Just a simple question that popped into my simple mind. :)
1 posted on 12/10/2007 12:32:18 PM PST by Dean Baker
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To: Dean Baker

Here’s your answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYkIdbdQQmE


2 posted on 12/10/2007 12:34:38 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (If Rudy's an influential conservative, then I'm an award winning concert pianist.)
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To: martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim
The early wheel: Solid, wooden and round versus spoked, wooden and round?

Turn page paper alert?

3 posted on 12/10/2007 12:35:13 PM PST by Constitution Day (Everything was fine until membership lost its privileges)
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To: Dean Baker

This is an interesting article that might help—

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33168

If anything— it is certainly a genuine wheel from ages past


4 posted on 12/10/2007 12:35:23 PM PST by squireofgothos
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To: ElkGroveDan

LOL!!

Just another example of why even before Google, I do a search for any given subject on Free Republic.

Loved the Wheel Dancer!!


5 posted on 12/10/2007 12:36:30 PM PST by Dean Baker (Two wrongs may not make a right, but three lefts do.)
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To: Dean Baker

I would assume that solid came first. Spokes would be lighter but I suspect that there would be a lot more work involved in making them.


6 posted on 12/10/2007 12:36:32 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Dean Baker

I dunno, but I want Ben Hur wheels.


7 posted on 12/10/2007 12:39:23 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Dean Baker
Ask the 'inventor' Al Gore:

8 posted on 12/10/2007 12:40:41 PM PST by evets (beer)
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To: cripplecreek
I would assume that solid came first. Spokes would be lighter but I suspect that there would be a lot more work involved in making them.

I would assume the same thing but it seems solid wooden wheels would break-down pretty easily if traveling down stone roads?

9 posted on 12/10/2007 12:41:16 PM PST by Dean Baker (Two wrongs may not make a right, but three lefts do.)
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To: Dean Baker

IIRC, there were solid wheels in specific applications (cannons on ships, for example) hundreds of years later.

Not sure if that speaks to which came first, but the existance of one would not infer total replacement of the other.


10 posted on 12/10/2007 12:41:41 PM PST by chrisser (Sometimes it’s hard to tell the difference between “conservation” and the neutron bomb.”- Mark Steyn)
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To: Constitution Day

Your wheels are weak, young Hur... < /Darth Vader>

11 posted on 12/10/2007 12:41:57 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

All your wheels are belong to us.....


12 posted on 12/10/2007 12:47:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Dean Baker
A spoked wheel requires a lathe to turn the spokes. Definately not easy or cheap in Biblical times.

Spoked wheels are much lighter but I would have to guess that they were extremely expensive.

Solid wheels would have been much cheaper, and capable of carrying heavier loads as well.

13 posted on 12/10/2007 12:47:49 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

You’re on a roll.


14 posted on 12/10/2007 12:48:54 PM PST by Constitution Day (Everything was fine until membership lost its privileges)
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To: Dean Baker

You’ll have to ask the spokesperson.


15 posted on 12/10/2007 12:49:16 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Yo-Yo
A spoked wheel requires a lathe to turn the spokes.

Not really, but the alternative is very labor intensive.

17 posted on 12/10/2007 12:57:49 PM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people. Socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: Dean Baker

FWIW, “Gladiator” is set about 150 years after Christ died.


18 posted on 12/10/2007 12:59:06 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Yo-Yo
Spoked wheels are much lighter but I would have to guess that they were extremely expensive.

Solid wheels would have been much cheaper, and capable of carrying heavier loads as well.

I would assume the same thing, but I would also assume that solid wheels might become more expensive because when they break, the entire wheel is shot...When a spoke breaks, you just replace the spoke.

19 posted on 12/10/2007 1:00:25 PM PST by Dean Baker (Two wrongs may not make a right, but three lefts do.)
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To: Yo-Yo
A spoked wheel requires a lathe to turn the spokes.

Its a helluva lot easier, but, ever seen one of these...


20 posted on 12/10/2007 1:01:55 PM PST by chrisser (Sometimes it’s hard to tell the difference between “conservation” and the neutron bomb.”- Mark Steyn)
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