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Univision and The Republican Debate In Spanish (Don't Press One For English)
December 8, 2007 | ED

Posted on 12/08/2007 2:19:34 PM PST by Earthdweller

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To: Nea Wood

The problem on Univision is that the Spanish is so loud you can not hear anything the candidates answer in English! Makes me sick! They could at least have English subtitles going across the screen, couldn’t they? Debates should be televised for the majority, which means they should be in ENGLISH!


61 posted on 12/09/2007 4:25:21 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: kabar

Fred Thompson just got applause for something.


62 posted on 12/09/2007 4:25:28 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: mamelukesabre
Why I won't do Spanish debate Posted on Thu, Dec. 06, By TOM TANCREDO www.tancredo.house.gov

"I declined the invitation to participate in the Spanish-language Republican presidential debate on Sunday because I do not want to endorse the further Balkanization of American political life.

The debate is being sponsored by Univisión, the country's largest Spanish-language network, and the candidates' answers will be translated into Spanish. Spanish-language news broadcasts and public-affairs programming is an expression of our First Amendment freedoms. I have given many interviews to Univisión as well as local Spanish-language stations. However, a Spanish-language presidential debate is a different animal altogether.

The question of bilingualism is not new to American politics. A former Republican president, Theodore Roosevelt, once spoke about the importance of new immigrants giving up their old languages and allegiances in order to become equal partners in American democracy:

``We freely extend the hand of welcome and of good fellowship to every man, no matter what his creed or birthplace, who comes here honestly intent on becoming a good United States citizen like the rest of us. . . . Americanism is a question of spirit, conviction and purpose, not of creed or birthplace. The politician who bids for the Irish or German vote, or the Irishman or German who votes as an Irishman or German, is despicable, for all citizens of this commonwealth should vote solely as Americans.''

Can anyone imagine Theodore Roosevelt and William Howard Taft having a Republican primary debate in German or Italian in 1912? Of course not. Indeed, I believe Teddy Roosevelt's admonition applies today. I do not believe it is proper to appeal to the ‘‘Hispanic vote'' or the "Asian vote'' or the "Black vote." I believe we must appeal only for American votes.

Any political debate is aimed at citizens. It is about issues of concern to the entire community, not a segment of the community. It is vital that all political debates and discussions take place in the public square, not in separate enclaves. Our democracy does not need different messages broadcast to different audiences in different languages that are not heard or understood by other groups.

Our children learn in school that all registered voters are either native-born citizens or naturalized citizens, and all applicants for citizenship must pass an English-proficiency test. This test is included in the naturalization exam for a good reason.

Conducting political debates in any language other than English, whether Korean, French, Farsi or Spanish, is telling new immigrants that they need not take that particular requirement for naturalization seriously. The United States has a special need to have a common language because of the very diversity of its immigrants. Our parents and ancestors who were immigrants spoke many different languages on arrival. But they came here to become Americans, and as Americans, we conduct our political affairs in English.

Is it not a little bit insulting to our new citizens who were born in Cuba or Mexico or Peru to suggest that political debates need to be translated into Spanish for them to understand what is going on? Is it smart for the Republican Party to implicitly endorse the notion that newly naturalized citizens are not able -- or do not desire -- to understand speeches and debates spoken in English? If this is so, should we go to Westminster, Calif., and have a debate broadcast in Vietnamese and to the Russian Orthodox community in West Sacramento and have a debate broadcast in Russian?

The graduation exercises at the University of Miami, the site of Sunday's Republican debate, are conducted in English. The business of the Florida Legislature is conducted in English and the oath of office for a new president of the United States will be administered in English. It is not a good idea to encourage people to think that they can participate in American politics without knowing how to understand and speak English. Doing so offends not only citizens old and new; it offends the spirit of democracy and especially our heritage of equal justice under law."

U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., is a candidate for his party's presidential nomination. God Bless Tancredo!

63 posted on 12/09/2007 4:25:55 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife ("The best thing about this group of candidates is that only one of them can win.")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Mitt up. Slick as usual. Question is still, “why dont you favor legalizing “undocumented”. Getting applause now.


64 posted on 12/09/2007 4:26:39 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: mamelukesabre

On February 13, the American Conservative Union issued ratings for potential presidential candidates for the 2008 election.[79] Tancredo took first with a lifetime ranking of 99 out of 100.


65 posted on 12/09/2007 4:26:47 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: seekthetruth

This is interesting. We are being prevented from knowing what our candidates are saying in English, in our own English-speaking country.

I foresee Spanish-only on the horizon.


66 posted on 12/09/2007 4:27:41 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Whatever Duncan Hunter just said now on illegal immigration and legalizing those lawbreakers, he did good and he just got a fairly good applause, but no cheering as there was with some others' answers.
67 posted on 12/09/2007 4:28:22 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

The audience seems to be giving applause to most every answer so far. Some a little more vigorous than others but respectful it seems.....

Cable tv has it on live on one of the Spanish stations but with the over dub you can’t hear the candidates in English.


68 posted on 12/09/2007 4:29:29 PM PST by deport (---24 days Iowa Caucuses--- 29 days New Hampshire vote s--- [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Hunter said the illegals must go home. Thompson said something similar. Huckabee wants them to go home for a few days or weeks and then reenter. He sees it as a paperwork and processing problem.


69 posted on 12/09/2007 4:30:38 PM PST by kabar
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To: deport
I think we ought to decide if the thread here should be a debate back and forth whether such debate should take place in the first place (a legitimate argument), vs. what the candidates are just actually saying point by point, play by play. I am happy to try to provide the latter. But maybe I am on the wrong thread. Should we start a new one just synopsizing what these guys are saying??

PS Fred said something that generated some controversy just now. I believe it is on the 14th Ammendment.

70 posted on 12/09/2007 4:32:19 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: spectre
I was having a really hard time deciding who to vote for. I always liked tancredo. But I was thinking about fred since the tanc seems to be tanking(apologies) in the polls. Well, all I can say is thanks fred, for making my decision easier.
71 posted on 12/09/2007 4:32:31 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: kabar

So THAT is why Huckabee got the greater applause over Hunter and Thompson. FIGURES!!


72 posted on 12/09/2007 4:33:02 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: Earthdweller

Duncan Hunter stayed true to his no illegal immigration stance and got a decent applause for it!


73 posted on 12/09/2007 4:33:38 PM PST by pulaskibush (USA, founded by tolerant Christians. USSR, founded by intolerant Secularist.)
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To: kabar
If true (he just said that on live TV), then this can be used against HUCKABEE in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Hmmmmmmmm.....delicious quotes!! I knew it.

74 posted on 12/09/2007 4:34:08 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

With the great influx of Vietnamise to California, following the end of that war, the State Sec of Ed was asked the best approach to incorporate these new citizens.
(I think it was Bill Honag (sp?))
“Total immersion!” was the instant response.

Never mind that he continued to support bilingual education for the Hispanic immigrants!?!?!?!
Agendas are often more important the heartfelt beliefs.


75 posted on 12/09/2007 4:34:46 PM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Huckabee said the same thing this morning on Fox News.


76 posted on 12/09/2007 4:34:59 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

Thate Huckabee approach is indeed very stupid. That is what the GOP Congressman in the Midwest tried to bring up as a “compromise” last year. It, too, amounted to Amnesty. Sucks.


77 posted on 12/09/2007 4:36:09 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: deport

This just fries my gourd, that English-speaking Americans are being kept from knowing what they are saying!!!


78 posted on 12/09/2007 4:36:52 PM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Right. The Mike Pence charade.


79 posted on 12/09/2007 4:37:31 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
Huckabee wants them to go home for a few days or weeks and then reenter. He sees it as a paperwork and processing problem.

As expected, Huckabee's immigration plan that he announced this week was a lying crock of frijoles.

80 posted on 12/09/2007 4:38:07 PM PST by Perchant
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