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Univision and The Republican Debate In Spanish (Don't Press One For English)
December 8, 2007 | ED

Posted on 12/08/2007 2:19:34 PM PST by Earthdweller

December 9, 2007 - Miami, Florida

Univision, the nation’s largest Spanish-speaking television network, will be sponsoring a Republican debate hosted by the University of Miami on December 9, 2007. The candidates in attendance will be Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, Ron Paul, John McCain, Duncan Hunter, and Mike Huckabee.

But for millions of people who might want to view the debate, there could be a slight problem, to check the Univison website for air times you need to speak Spanish.

The explaination for a Spanish only site at first glance might be that there is a problem with inserting translation code into the website, but the webmaster clearly has the ability to add the translation software. While an English translation button is absent from Univison’s TV programming site, their English version Corporate site has a predominate Spanish translation button at the very top of the home page.

In addition, on the same Spanish only Univison TV programming site, there is a link to a bilingual site similar to My Space that appears to be a major concession to those Spanish speakers who want to hook up with American dates.

Now, I'm an English only speaker and with a serious thing like a Presidential debate airing tomorrow, I’m in too much of a hurry to hook up or even to wait for someone to put me on their Spanish “My Space” buddies list. I also need plenty of time to figure out how to activate the closed caption on my TV so I can read what people are saying. I figure it's the least I can do so I won't miss out on one of the most important debates of the 2008 election.

So with all this extra work I'm doing, I’m beginning to get a bit frustrated and I’m checking in my Webster’s English to Spanish dictionary to see if there is a Spanish equivalent to the word ‘ironic’.

It's true, I do try hard to be flexible in our ever increasingly PC world. I only moan for a second or two every time I have to push one for English, but I will have to admit that doing so is such an ever increasingly huge daily nuisance and I’ve have never even so much as gotten a thank you note from that machine voice on the other end of my phone.

Considering how much of my time I spend accommodating Univison's usual viewer-ship, it seems to me that Univison could at least offer me an English translation button so I can view their website.

But then again, accommodation is a two way street..in a perfect world.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; debate; debates; election; gop; gopdebates; hispanicvote; hunter; immigrantlist; immigration; spanish; thompson; univision
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To: Gene Eric
I was surprised, too.

They went the most ballistic tonight (i.e. in favor) when a candidate really laid into Latin American Communistas, like Castro and Chavez, or praised Hispanics serving in the military and in Iraq for example.

We need these people.

Why Tancredo did not grasp that is beyond me.

No gain for Tanc it would seem.

121 posted on 12/09/2007 6:15:25 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: Earthdweller
I heard Ron Paul get booed on some things, too. Particularly on retreat from the War on Terror.

At a CNN debate, you expect him to be roundly CHEERED when he would make conciliatory statements in favor of the Islamofascists. But not tonight. Not on Univision.

122 posted on 12/09/2007 6:17:14 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Thanks AmericanInTokyo for putting the effort into this. I was able to figure out the CC on my menu in time but I’m sure others were not. I can concur that each comment you made was a fine translation and accurate. :)


123 posted on 12/09/2007 6:18:01 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller
Thanks. Were in in Japanese or other Asian languages, I would have fared much better. Sorry if I messed up anywhere!!
124 posted on 12/09/2007 6:19:45 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"I heard Ron Paul get booed on some things, too. Particularly on retreat from the War on Terror."

Judging from the responses they want to win and they want the troops home but in that order. I believe that is where most of America stands but the Dems keep lying about it.

My guess is that CNN will have a much different interpretation.

125 posted on 12/09/2007 6:21:32 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
If you made any mistakes (npt that I can tell), at least they were honest. What’s to come next will be a bonanza of fabrications from the media. I'm glad we got to see it first hand for ourselves.
126 posted on 12/09/2007 6:26:17 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Earthdweller
not that I can tell...LOL! It's not me, the keys are just moving.
127 posted on 12/09/2007 6:28:35 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Huckabee’s position, in English earlier today:

WALLACE: ... But last year in an interview, you said something somewhat different. You said this, “I think that the rational approach is to find a way to give people a pathway to citizenship.”

Governor, in your new plan, the only path is to go home and to get on the back of the line, which, of course, would mean years of waiting. Why the change?

HUCKABEE: Well, I don’t think there’s an inconsistency. When I said a pathway, I didn’t say what the pathway was.

I now believe that the only thing the American people are going to accept — and, frankly, the only thing that really makes sense — is a pathway that sends people back to the starting point.

But this idea of the waiting years — no, I don’t agree with that...You do have a pathway that gets you back home. But that pathway to get back here legally doesn’t take years. It would take days, maybe weeks, and then people could come back in the workforce.


Sounds like amnesty for millions to me. And it will only take a few weeks in a Huckabee administration!


128 posted on 12/09/2007 6:34:11 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Amnesty is Huckabee's middle name!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

>> We need these people.
>> Why Tancredo did not grasp that is beyond me.

Ditto.

As tough as Tancredo is on the immigration problem, his message is NOT to the exclusion of the Spanish speaking community. Border management and language unity doesn’t require anyone to lose their heritage or abandon their primary tongue.


129 posted on 12/09/2007 6:53:55 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: kabar

If Huckabee really wants to be President of the WHOLE United States, he needs to spend more time in the border states. Does he have a CLUE what unfettered illegal immigration has done to us? And I am not being state-o-centric here. SoCal / Tx / etc are only the beginning. It’s all coming to a state near you.


130 posted on 12/09/2007 6:58:32 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Earthdweller

It is just starting to air in Los Angeles now—on KMEX.


131 posted on 12/09/2007 7:01:42 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Yaelle

It is happening in VA and North Carolina. Illegal immigration is no longer just a border state problem. It has metastasized around the country.


132 posted on 12/09/2007 7:01:58 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

They said in 2015 the country will be 25% Hispanic.


133 posted on 12/09/2007 7:03:20 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: calcowgirl

Duncan Hunter just got a huge round of applause (loudest I’ve heard since I turned on the debate coverage), on a question regarding Cuba.

Seems like Hunter is deeply respected, in that forum.

Interesting. You can sense the respect, even from the moderators.


134 posted on 12/09/2007 7:17:18 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I'm a proud Yankee Doodle Protectionist)
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To: calcowgirl

..they could have at least provided an English subtitle


135 posted on 12/09/2007 7:32:20 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: WalterSkinner

I turned on my captioning and was pretty frustrated to find that I could only watch it in Spanish—with Spanish captions.

Wow—I think Ron Paul just said he wants to trade with Cuba and this audience sure doesn’t like it!


136 posted on 12/09/2007 7:46:49 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: WalterSkinner

I have English subtitles, and even there Paul brings the crazy big-time!


137 posted on 12/09/2007 7:49:22 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: calcowgirl
I didn’t get to watch much of this, but I do wonder if candidates did mention about how in the past the acceptable way into our country in immigration was to wait, get screened, have permission to come in and if not healthy or without skills, they were sent home.

Bet the big question tonight will be...
Tortas or tacos?

138 posted on 12/09/2007 7:56:38 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Earthdweller
The Bureau of the Census projects that Hispanics will be 24.4% by 2050. Non-Hispanic whites will be 50%.
139 posted on 12/09/2007 8:01:55 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

The winner: Tancredo for having the courage to skip it. The losers: McCain and Giuliani. Why hold a presidential debate for those too lazy or too arrogant to learn English or foreign nationals? I bet there will be no debates in French, Italian, or German.


140 posted on 12/10/2007 8:25:12 AM PST by apocalypto
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