Posted on 10/22/2007 11:22:56 AM PDT by reaganaut1
Edited on 10/22/2007 12:23:03 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
No excerpting because of copyright. The essay is at http://comment.independent.co.uk/commentators/article3075642.ece .
PC trumps truth every time.
Isn’t saying that one race has higher or lower intelligence than another the definition of racism?
“Isn’t saying that one race has higher or lower intelligence than another the definition of racism?”
Not if there is reason to believe it’s true, on average (and if the original assertion is phrased in terms of averages). I’m a guy and think men are innately more violent than women. Does that make me a sexist or just a realist?
How can reporting the truth, IF it is true, be racist. To use that information, like the fact they have black skin ( that’s scientific ) to oppress is the definition of racism.
A racist would define it that way.
To a racist, EVERYTHING is racism, even merely saying the word "race."
Excepting themselves, of course.
Being violent or not has nothing to do with capabilities. I think that it is amazing that there are those who actually believe that when someone in essence calls black people naturally the dumbest people on Earth (which is the same as calling them the least human people on Earth), black people should just accept that as reality.
Ping! Another thread starting up. Not even Watson believes what he himself reportedly said.
“Isn’t saying that one race has higher or lower intelligence than another the definition of racism?”
Isn’t implying that all are equal, which directly opposes both historical and emperical evidence, the same?
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/racist
Main Entry: rac·ism
Function: noun
Date: 1933
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
P.S. (That said, I don’t believe people should not discuss this topic. Open discussion can be beneficial.)
I don’t think so. Saying that a Border Collie dog has a higher intelegence than a German Shep is not racist either. If in fact if it is the truth, it’s the truth. We may not like it but that’s the way it is. Have we gotten to the point that we can’t handle the truth? The only problem today is that our world had gotten smarter and is capable of figuring these things out. It’s a lot like global warming. It it’s not true, are we supposed to just sit back and keep our mouth shut?
Racism is the irrational and/or unfactual hatred and demeaning of another race or people of another race.
By definition then, stating empirical observations is not racist. If there are racial differences on an intelligence test, that is simply an empirical fact. Racism comes from things like saying "Race X is not very intelligent, therefore they should not be allowed to try to do Y, or should not be treated the same as humans from Race Z, etc."
Its not racist to obsere the world. Its racist to say difference must cause us to hate (or do worse).
PC Egalitarianism: the Liberal’s own Creationism...
The truly insidious thing about political correctness is that you can't even do the serious scientific inquiry testing hypotheses that would - if disproved - shed a more favorable light on the positions the politically correct prefer!
To state that global warming is science. No ! it is propaganda. What group has the highest IQ?No ! it is science !
As per my post #12, in other words, indeed your definition of “racism” is correct. So, you’re right. However, that doesn’t mean this topic shouldn’t be discussed openly.
Here is the conclusion: Do a study based on groups of people according to social/cultural constructs, and your results will be based on social/cultural influences. And that’s all. Not genetics. Other people here will call us “PC” and try to shout us down, but they have no real evidence to support their theory that “race” genetically determines intelligence.
Good question. The answer is "no".
If we empirically discover that one racial group scores lower on certain tests than other racial groups, that is just a statement of fact. If we decide to never hire a member of that low scoring racial group without considering their individual abilities, that's racism.
A given individual may fall anywhere on the bell shaped curve regardless of how his racial group scores "on average". Racism is lumping everyone from a particular race together and making blanket judgments about the group.
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