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175 Million New Recruits for Jihad?
realclearpolitics.com ^ | July 14, 2007 | Todd Crowell

Posted on 07/15/2007 2:25:26 PM PDT by neverdem

HUA HIN, Thailand - Many people in the US were surprised to learn that some of the alleged terrorists in the London and Glasgow attacks were medical doctors. But Asians were more interested to learn that they were Indians.

India has the world's second largest population of Muslims after Indonesia, but this is the first instance of Indian Muslims being involved in international terrorism. For example, not one Indian citizen is detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where the US keeps terror suspects.

Three of the core suspects in the London/Glasgow affair, Kafeel Ahmed, his brother Sabeel Ahmed and their cousin in Australia Mohammed Haneef all came from the southern Indian state of Karnataka. Although Mohammed and Sabeel were doctors, Kafeel was an aeronautical engineer.

The man that British authorities believe tried to ram his Jeep Cherokee into Glasgow International Airport had worked for Infotech an Indian outsourcing company based in Bangalore that designs aircraft parts for Airbus Industrie and Boeing.

All three had studied in Bangalore, which is India's information technology capital and probably its most cosmopolitan city, the poster-child for the "flat", globally connected world of which India has become an important part.

As far as anyone knows, the alleged terrorists did not come from some impoverished Muslim ghetto; nor did they get indoctrinated at madrassa religious schools. That's not to say that they were radicalized only after they emigrated to Britain and Australia.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clusterbombs; dhimmitude; educatedmurderers; enemywithin; fuelairexplosives; globaljihad; india; infiltration; islam; jihad; muslimdoctors; muslims; napalm
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1 posted on 07/15/2007 2:25:27 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Suffering from a collective "conflict of conscience" and what Pope Benedict XVI would describe as a "pathological self-hatred", America and much of the West have taken to their impending dhimmitude like a duck to water. Never before in the history of Islamic revival has a nation so willingly subjugated itself. The President and the Commander in Chief of America's armed forces removing his shoes and not only paying homage and reverence to the will of Allah, but actually promoting Islam as a religion of peace, female government officials donning the hijab for the sake of Allah. These are all extremely powerful phantasmagorical images that substantiate the prophecies of Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden and encourage more to join the call for jihad.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

2 posted on 07/15/2007 2:28:22 PM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: neverdem

Wherever there are Muslims there is a fertile ground for terrorism.


3 posted on 07/15/2007 2:32:10 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: neverdem

Curious who is behind all the trouble in Kashmir then, if it is not Indian Muslims?


4 posted on 07/15/2007 2:52:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ignorance can be cured by education, stupidity is a terminal condition)
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To: neverdem

The founders of their religion were a thousand times the men these are. A couple hundred Saracens on horses and waving swords went from village to village across Africa. How do they need 175 million now?


5 posted on 07/15/2007 2:56:50 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: expatguy
Curious how all the Dogma Uber Alles ‘Net Warriors screaming their hate at Islam continually refuse to acknowledge that most of the people fighting and dying ON OUR SIDE are Muslims?

Do they ever bother to consider the Kurds are Muslims?

Funny, Napoleon in Spain, the Nazis in Eastern Europe and the Russians in Afghanistan waged Counter Insurgency following their absolutes ideological based purist doctrines. They all lost badly.

Let us explore the logic of these “Islam is evil”: ranters.

Most KKKers claim to be Christians. IF you accept the “logic” expressed that all Islam is evil because some do evil in the name of Islam, then you must also accept, using the the exact same logic, that Christianity is a religion of racists.

Counter Insurgency is not Total War. Way past time the Know Nothing learn the differences. Spending all their time mindlessly slandering our allies’s religion, and posting absurd empty ranting against the own leadership, does only ONE thing, help Al Qeda's PR efforts.

6 posted on 07/15/2007 3:01:30 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Ignorance can be cured by education, stupidity is a terminal condition)
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To: RightWhale
How do they need 175 million now?

Because we have 20 mm chain guns, laser and GPS guided bombs,
MOABS, etc. And in the extreme, some mushroom clouds.

Unlike the puny spears and swords that oppossed their forefathers.
Or the Maxim guns that mowed down waves of them in the late 1800s.

They'll need more cannon fodder this time out.

I'm not saying the Islamics won't win this struggle.
It's just that the price of victory will be a couple of orders
of magnitude higher this time.
7 posted on 07/15/2007 3:07:30 PM PDT by VOA
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To: VOA
JUST 175 MILLION MORE TARGETS IN OUR SITES
8 posted on 07/15/2007 3:10:29 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (I'd rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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To: MNJohnnie
"Counter Insurgency is not Total War. Way past time the Know Nothing learn the differences. Spending all their time mindlessly slandering our allies’s religion, and posting absurd empty ranting against the own leadership, does only ONE thing, help Al Qeda's PR efforts.

You are accusing me of slandering our allies' religion?

And secondly, weakness in lieu of resolve is what fuels Al Qaeda's PR efforts

9 posted on 07/15/2007 3:16:48 PM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: VOA
Just think of how many Virgins that is! Do they have a ranking list? I would be concerned about whatsis face running out. I would in the express lane.
10 posted on 07/15/2007 3:22:23 PM PDT by logcabinman
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To: neverdem

Bangalore beats Mumbai for most cosmopolitan city?


11 posted on 07/15/2007 3:24:32 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: RightWhale; All
Because those 'villages' have turned into cities.

(there are more non-Muslims today, too--from around 1 billion people estimated around the globe then (?) to roughly 6.5 billion today, and Muslims are no longer fighting mainly by the sword, but against people with with tanks, airplanes, high-tech soldiers, and massive navies.


And for a general comment out there:

India seems strong enough to keep itself intact and most of its Muslim population in line.

12 posted on 07/15/2007 3:29:34 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: MNJohnnie
Alienating all Muslims does help drive them more toward alqaeda.

This war isn't against all Muslims (though they should reform their religion--or, along with all non-Christians, become Christians), but against the islamofascists.

Also--off topic, and this isn't with the intent of derailing the thread--Klansmen would not be Creationist 'Christians' (though it could be that some racists are Christians--all human creatures have their flaws).

13 posted on 07/15/2007 3:35:29 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: neverdem
If we leave Iraq before we crush the terrorists there, then the islamic terrorism worldwide will emboldened beyond imagination and they will have tens of millions of volunteers ready to cause us death and destruction on a scale that is beyond belief.
14 posted on 07/15/2007 5:55:46 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: MNJohnnie

“Curious who is behind all the trouble in Kashmir then, if it is not Indian Muslims?”

Ever heard of Pakistani Muslims?


15 posted on 07/15/2007 7:12:51 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: MNJohnnie

Re: Your post 6. Have you read ANY of the Qur’an, Hadith, Satanic Verses, etc.? Those blinders will come in handy when they come for your head.


16 posted on 07/15/2007 8:15:44 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Under sharia law, bacon will be illegal in Americistan, reason enough to keep islam out of America)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well said.


17 posted on 07/15/2007 9:11:27 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: theymakemesick

What do those verses have to do with the way most of the worlds Muslims live their lives?

The radical loser (Long Read)
Der Spiegel ^ | 1/12/05 | Hans Magnus Enzensberger

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1694568/posts

(snip)

Contrary to what the West appears to believe, the destructive energy of Islamist actions is directed mainly against Muslims. This is not a tactical error, not a case of “collateral damage”. In Algeria alone, Islamist terror has cost the lives of at least 50,000 fellow Algerians. Other sources speak of as many as 150,000 murders, although the military and the secret services were also involved. In Iraq and Afghanistan, too, the number of Muslim victims far outstrips the death toll among foreigners. Furthermore, terrorism has been highly detrimental not only to the image of Islam but also to the living conditions of Muslims around the world.

The Islamists are as unconcerned about this as the Nazis were about the downfall of Germany. As the avant-garde of death, they have no regard for the lives of their fellow believers. In the eyes of the Islamists, the fact that most Muslims have no desire to blow themselves and others sky high only goes to show that they deserve no better than to be liquidated themselves. After all, the aim of the radical loser is to make as many other people into losers as possible. As the Islamists see it, the fact that they are in the minority can only be because they are the chosen few.


18 posted on 07/15/2007 9:14:16 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Cronos; CarrotAndStick; razoroccam; Arjun; samsonite; Bombay Bloke; mindfever; ...
Pinging you all to a crappy article.......

“In India Muslims have gone on rampages, but they have usually been tit-for-tat reactions to Hindu provocations, such as the 1992 destruction by militant Hindus of the Babri Masjid Mosque, which stood on ground sacred to Hindus. In other words, they were strictly Indian affairs.”

In other words India’s Muslim problems have been strictly India’s problems while Muslim problem in the West is the world ‘s problem. The “West” seems to be in love their double standards and would never learn any lesson.

19 posted on 07/16/2007 7:12:02 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan

In India Muslims have gone on rampages for the last 1100 years. The greatest genecide in human history is the extermination of non-Muslims (primarily Hindus and Buddhists) by the descendants of Ghori, Ghaznavi, Babar and their descendants. The West is not aware of this fact and continues its double standards.

This author is a fool and needs to be treated with the contempt he deserves. What a dhimmi!


20 posted on 07/16/2007 7:27:49 AM PDT by indcons (Please contribute to FreeRepublic; what would we do without this forum?)
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