Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Resentment wins, again (Liberal Whining : "WAAAAH, You brain dead robot bigots win again" )
Baltimore Sun ^ | June 29, 2007 | baltimore Sun opinion

Posted on 06/29/2007 7:08:06 AM PDT by sickoflibs

The Senate majority that voted yesterday to crush what is almost certainly the last opportunity to fix America's broken immigration system for at least two years was responding to constituents with unreasonable expectations. Flogged into a fury by talk-show agitators and Internet provocateurs, thousands of people called, wrote and e-mailed their senators to protest legislation they believed would do nothing to stop the flow of illegal entry into this country, would forgive millions of illegals already here and would burden taxpayers with the cost to schools and health care.

No one is going to round up 12 million people here illegally, kick them out of the country and lock the door behind them, as some critics of the reform measure propose. Even if there were a will to do it, there's no practical way.

Impoverished people will continue to find a way into the United States for the economic opportunities. Changes in the law intended to make it more difficult for workers to be hired using phony papers will die along with the rest of the bill. And while the 12 million undocumented foreigners living in the shadows won't get the purported amnesty that offended so many Americans, they will continue to be part of American communities, contributing to and drawing from their resources, in a limbo status dubbed "silent amnesty" by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

Unlike the House of Representatives, the Senate was designed to be more resistant to demagogic passions. But angry voters didn't appreciate the value of that procedural courtesy and deluged the senators with such a protest that only 46 senators voted yesterday in favor of another procedural question that would have positioned the bill for a final vote today. Sixty votes were needed.

Doing nothing, though, is not a fix.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; cloture; congress; deathofthegop; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; mexico; noamnestyforillegals; vampirebill
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-65 next last
To: sickoflibs
No one is going to round up 12 million people here illegally, kick them out of the country and lock the door behind them, as some critics of the reform measure propose.

Stop their jobs and they will walk home.

21 posted on 06/29/2007 7:29:30 AM PDT by Raycpa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sickoflibs
Impoverished people will continue to find a way into the United States for the economic opportunities. Changes in the law intended to make it more difficult for workers to be hired using phony papers will die along with the rest of the bill.

Amazing how liberal, elite, smug, nobler-than-thou, omniscient, annointed DBM types can write two sentences together that illustrate their monumental stupidity.

"THEY" will always find a way!

"BUT" this bill would have stopped them.

22 posted on 06/29/2007 7:29:35 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sickoflibs

We win. You lose.


23 posted on 06/29/2007 7:30:24 AM PDT by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sickoflibs

“No one is going to round up 12 million people here illegally, kick them out of the country and lock the door behind them, as some critics of the reform measure propose. Even if there were a will to do it, there’s no practical way.”

Then how do we enforce an abomonation of a tax code off on 300 million people. What if we all stopped paying taxes? How do you enforce the tax code then?

Then how hard could it be finding and punishing 12 million law breakers.


24 posted on 06/29/2007 7:30:45 AM PDT by mr_hammer (Show me just what liberalism brought that was new, and there you will find things evil & inhuman)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sgtbono2002
Even if there were a will to do it, there's no practical way.

The will is alive and well, and of course, where there's a will....

It's the feds that lack the will. The states can handle this, but the shamnesty bill would have pre-empted effective state action. Makes you long for the good old days of real federalism, that does.

25 posted on 06/29/2007 7:31:54 AM PDT by thulldud ("Para inglés, oprima el dos.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: sgtbono2002

Little county I grew up in used to have the local sheriff’s picture in it “Busting up a still he discovered through good police work” in the month before an election.


26 posted on 06/29/2007 7:31:54 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Clara Lou

Fred “the beetle’ barnes and Mort Kondrake both supported the bill. They were both upset that in went down last night and all three members of the “all-stars” were convinced that this is going to hurt the GOP.


27 posted on 06/29/2007 7:32:11 AM PDT by Pietro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Clara Lou
Who’s the beetle? Kondracke supported the bill?

I missed the exchange and don't know if Mort supported the bill, but 'beetle' is a reference to Fred Barnes. "The Beetle" was John McLaughlin's nickname for him, when Barnes appeared on "The McLaughlin Group": "Freddy 'The Beetle' Barnes"...

28 posted on 06/29/2007 7:33:08 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice

Yup, dying Old Media whining about the emergence of New Media.


29 posted on 06/29/2007 7:33:54 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: sickoflibs

Fix America’s broken immigration system - fire Chertoff, build the wall, enforce the law, jail violators.


30 posted on 06/29/2007 7:35:01 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

Ha!!!


31 posted on 06/29/2007 7:37:42 AM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: sickoflibs

Quick! Someone call the Whambulance!


32 posted on 06/29/2007 7:42:11 AM PDT by This Just In
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hunter112

I’m mulling over this whole “fairness doctrine” thing.
Why not go along? Other than FR, a few other sites and talk radio, we aren’t bringing much to the table.
By demanding equal time—”fairness”—on the 20th century lib propa-venues, from the NYT to NBC, `Air America’ & DU to NPR, we could give them a little push into the tar pits.
Talk radio and FR wouldn’t lose anyone. 198whenever, when the doctrine was revoked under Reagan, and 2007, in terms of telecommunications are like the difference between 1900 and 2000 in terms of travel.


33 posted on 06/29/2007 8:01:24 AM PDT by tumblindice ("Can't we all just get along?"........ No)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: sickoflibs

I don’t know where they get this “in the shadows” BS. Just go to Walmart for a few minutes on Saturday. Looks like a Mexico family reunion. You can’t even get down the isles for them standing there with all 4-6 kids visiting with another family of the same numbers. We avoid going there on weekends as if there was plague loose in the place. The city park is the same way. So don’t tell me about people in the shadows.


34 posted on 06/29/2007 8:30:49 AM PDT by TDA2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice

The “fairness doctrine” provisions do not apply to TV or to print media.


35 posted on 06/29/2007 8:31:11 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: sickoflibs

What happened to “government of the people, by the people and for the people”? Liberal elitists can never understand that!


36 posted on 06/29/2007 8:34:37 AM PDT by Doctor Don
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sickoflibs; junta

I hear the Mexican president is unhappy with the vote too. Perhaps someone should translate Mexico’s immigration statutes into US English legalese, and enact them here. He could hardly complain about us copying Mexico in this regard. LOL

Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journals’ view of the results:

Immigration ‘Victory’
June 29, 2007

Immigration reform died in the Senate yesterday, a victim of populist anger on the right and political cynicism on the left. We hope the victors are prepared to live with the immigration status quo they purport to hate, because that is what they have now guaranteed.

As a matter of policy, this is far from the worst outcome. It would be better to bring some rationality to the reality of North American labor movements, and bringing illegals into the open would be good for national security. But the 12 million or so immigrants who are here illegally will continue building homes and cleaning hotel rooms, and more will arrive or leave depending on the job opportunities. At least the feds won’t have more authority and money to harass more innocent employers who hire illegals owing to the ease of forging government documents.

Perhaps now, too, reformers can rally around more modest reforms, such as an expansion of H1-B visas for skilled immigrants. Either the U.S. will accept more of these workers, especially from American graduate schools, or more U.S. companies will outsource more high-tech jobs to Ireland and India. A left-right coalition might also be able to agree on an expansion of visas for agricultural workers, who are now in short supply. Here, too, U.S. companies will either grow vegetables in America harvested by foreign workers, or the U.S. will import foreign vegetables harvested by foreign workers. Restrictionists can’t have it both ways.

As for the politics, the press will call this a defeat for President Bush, but he deserves credit for trying. This late in his term and with his low approval rating, he simply lacked the political capital to persuade Republicans spooked by talk radio and cable TV hosts. Mr. Bush was also trying to do his fellow Republicans a favor by forging a new relationship with Hispanic-Americans, even though he’ll never be on another ballot. We look forward to seeing how GOP candidates win elections as Democrats grab a larger share of America’s fastest growing voter bloc. Perhaps Lou Dobbs has some campaign tips.

As for Democrats, their cynicism has rarely been so obvious. Senate Majority Harry Reid pulled the bill earlier this month when GOP leaders wanted only another day or two for amendments. Then when he brought the bill back to the floor, he doomed it with faint support and by letting his party add amendments he knew would drive Republicans away. Now he and his fellow Democrats will tell Hispanic voters that they could have passed reform if not for those bigoted Republicans.

Mark it down: Chuck Schumer will use this against GOP Senators next year. And should they win more Senators and the White House, Democrats in 2009 will be in position to pass their own immigration reform that will be far less restrictive than this one. The conservatives who “won” this week will deserve much of the credit.


37 posted on 06/29/2007 8:37:01 AM PDT by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sickoflibs
Even if there were a will to [deport illegal aliens], there's no practical way.

Baloney.

It won't be done precisely because there is no political will to do it. It's simply a matter of cost and time, neither of which presents an impenetrable barrier.

If deportations sent illegals to the southern-most tip of Mexico, rather than 20 miles across the border, it would greatly increase the deterrent effect.

Only six things are needed to effectively address the illegal immigration problem. Only minimal legislative changes need to be made, certainly not "Comprehensive Immigration Reform". None of them involve mass deportation of millions of people.

  1. Change the deportation process to be performed by a regular (monthly?) passenger ship voyage to deep, southern Mexico. Con-voyage instead of Con-Air :-)
  2. Heavily fine and prosecute businesses that don't make reasonable efforts to verify the legal status of employees. Jail those who are proven to actively seek illegals or who avoid paying proper payroll taxes on them.
  3. End anchor-baby immigration.
  4. Deny all publicly-funded benefits to illegals, including college and all but critical emergency medicine.
  5. Build an effective border fence.
  6. Encourage and strengthen the Border Patrol rather than prosecuting them.

38 posted on 06/29/2007 8:49:15 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TChris

There sure was a “practical” way to ship all the Japanese into internment camps during WWII.


39 posted on 06/29/2007 8:50:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Raycpa
Stop their jobs and they will walk home.

I think this is where the American people can help. We need to make it our business to find and expose every business that employs illegals and insist on the law being enforced. Surely there are enough patriots to do this. The gov. says they can't send 12 M people back to their home country. Well, American citizens can do it. Lobby your city/county officials to check the businesses in your town/county for illegals. We can do this one county at a time.

40 posted on 06/29/2007 8:50:57 AM PDT by WVNan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-65 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson