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We've Replaced Rushdie In Hiding (Mark Steyn On Western Dhimmitude Submission Alert)
Orange County Register ^ | 06/24/2007 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 06/24/2007 4:40:16 AM PDT by goldstategop

Khomeini figured: Why import the false ideologies of a failing civilization? Doesn't it make more sense to export Islamism to the dying West?

And, for a guy dismissed by most of us as crazy, Khomeini made a lot of sense. The Rushdie fatwa established the ground rules: The side that means it gets away with it. Mobs marched through Britain calling for the murder of a British subject – and, as a matter of policy on the grounds of multicultural sensitivity, the British police shrugged and looked the other way.

One reader in England recalled one demonstration at which he asked a constable why the "Muslim community leaders" weren't being arrested for incitement to murder. The officer told him to "f--- off, or I'll arrest you." Genuine "moderate Muslims" were cowed into silence, and pseudo-moderate Muslims triangulated with artful evasiveness. Sir Iqbal Sacranie, who went on to become leader of the most prominent British Muslim lobby group, mused about the Rushdie fatwa: "Death is perhaps too easy."

In 1989 Salman Rushdie went into hiding under the protection of the British police. A decade later he decided he did not wish to live his life like that and emerged from seclusion to live a more or less normal life. He learned the biggest lesson of all – how easy it is to be forced into the shadows. That's what's happening in the free world incrementally every day, with every itsy-bitsy nothing concession to groups who take offense at everything and demand the right to kill you for every offense. Across two decades, what happened to Rushdie has metastasized, in part because of the weak response in those first months. "Death is perhaps too easy"? Maybe. But slow societal suicide is easier still.

©MARK STEYN

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The upshot over the past's Islamofascist uproar over the British Government's knighting of Salman Rushdie is the latter is now free. In contrast, the West has been forced to surrender its freedom to murderers and savages, As Mark Steyn might well put it but didn't say it, if we're going to be dhimmis, we're all better off being dead.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 06/24/2007 4:40:19 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

“officer told him to “f-— off, or I’ll arrest you.””

In America, after they do another attack, it’ll be ‘f-— off, or I’ll kill you’ if people try to do something about the problem. Our ‘protectors’ will turn on us in defense of the islamics.


2 posted on 06/24/2007 4:42:53 AM PDT by Tolsti
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To: goldstategop

Steyn is brilliant as usual. He boils it down and and throws it out!

And here we are in the USA putting foot baths in public places, forcing an entire midwestern town to listen to a public PA system blaring muslem prayers four times a day in decibels equaling the storm siren.

Such rubbish!


4 posted on 06/24/2007 5:10:02 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: goldstategop
Sooner or later we are going to have to give the muzzies the jihad they so desperately want.
And this time, we’ll finish the job.

Semper Fi,
Kelly

5 posted on 06/24/2007 5:46:21 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: goldstategop
The Rushdie fatwa established the ground rules: The side that means it gets away with it.

And...the victor gets to write the history book. To really lose a war means "THE END" of life as you knew it.

6 posted on 06/24/2007 5:50:38 AM PDT by Rapscallion (How do all US Senators enter office poor and retire as millionaires???)
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To: goldstategop; Beckwith; Diddle E. Squat; Flyer; Xenalyte; Eaker; humblegunner; PetroniDE; ...
"But, if we can't do much about freedom of expression in Iran and Saudi Arabia, we could at least do our bit to stop Saudi-Iranian standards embedding themselves in the West."

This bears repeating a thousand times if needed until it becomes embedded into the brains of each and every Westerner. It is not just speech that is at risk but our entire way of life.

Not nearly as eloquent as Steyn, I've given my own perspective on this issue from where I sit and I hope you all will take the time to read it and let me know what you think. I consider it one of my bests. Thanks.

An Anatomy Of Islamic Outrage

7 posted on 06/24/2007 6:05:57 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: expatguy

Aspiring to write like Steyn is a noble aim. Read it I will.


8 posted on 06/24/2007 6:55:16 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: NonValueAdded
Thanks FRiend!
9 posted on 06/24/2007 7:02:02 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: goldstategop

10 posted on 06/24/2007 9:20:55 AM PDT by UnklGene
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To: goldstategop

What would Reagan say about all of this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIxlsr3UUkY

Reagan “A Rendezvous With Destiny” speech

With the exception of a few cold war words. Doesnt it feel like he was giving this speech last night about current events ?

This is a speech people need to hear now more than ever.

It fits right along with the War on Terror (Iran, Iraq). The 1000 years of darkness is right in front of us if we dont step up.


11 posted on 06/24/2007 11:28:10 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (I just became engaged...6/16/07..)
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings

Ping


12 posted on 06/24/2007 11:56:17 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; deport; Dane; sinkspur; steve; JohnHuang2; ravingnutter; ...

Steyn ping!


13 posted on 06/24/2007 12:48:23 PM PDT by Pokey78 (Steyn: Al Qaeda wants to party like it's 799.)
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To: kellynla
“Sooner or later we are going to have to give the muzzies the jihad they so desperately want.
And this time, we’ll finish the job. “

You wish. It will take at the very minimum an multi city nuclear attack in the United States, and even then I don’t think the United States or any other Western nation would do that much. We would certainly never declare war on Islam.

The West has a death wish, and radical Muslims know it and will exploit it.

14 posted on 06/24/2007 1:02:31 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: goldstategop

btt


15 posted on 06/24/2007 1:06:12 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Pokey78

Boomp.


16 posted on 06/24/2007 1:42:01 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Pokey78
So many of our problems with Iran today arise from not doing anything about our problems with Iran yesterday.

For evil to win, it is only necessary for Jimmy Carter to be considered a role model.

17 posted on 06/24/2007 1:55:50 PM PDT by irv
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To: goldstategop

bump


18 posted on 06/24/2007 1:59:52 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: goldstategop; Pokey78

thanks, bfl


19 posted on 06/24/2007 3:29:05 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: expatguy
...or we can stand firm and resolute in our commitment to moral absolutism, human dignity, individual freedom, social justice and the sanctity of life. The choice is ours.

This is, of course, all well and good.

However, whilst we're standing firm in respect to moral abolutism, etc. while islamics are cutting our heads off and making huge inroads into our already illegal alien overcrowded nation, won't we have to take steps that border on extreme?

To think that we can sit self-rightouslessly by while these godless readers of the meanderings of a sick-minded, Bible plagerizing pervert is not too clever.

We're going to have to fight these sick-os on their own soil and get them the hell off ours!

20 posted on 06/24/2007 3:32:45 PM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: Pokey78

Thank you!


21 posted on 06/24/2007 4:15:21 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: expatguy

Well put. Part of the problem, obviously is Islam is recognized as a religion rather then a devious cult. The American heritage is based on allowing all kinds of riff raf to come onto our shores. The liberalization of America prohibits it’s wise to act more in a prudent way.


22 posted on 06/24/2007 4:19:49 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: goldstategop
Just watched this great program on FOX.
23 posted on 06/24/2007 7:21:51 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: FightThePower!
We would certainly never declare war on Islam.

Whether or not we declare war on them is irrelevant. islam has declared war on us.

And instead of us having a leader who recognizes it and speaks the truth, we get stupid meaningless phrases like 'war on terror'.

L

24 posted on 06/24/2007 7:45:13 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks for the ping.


25 posted on 06/24/2007 8:45:20 PM PDT by GOPJ (Do Bush/Kennedy want to sell American citizenship for $5,000.)
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To: FightThePower!
I applaud kellyula's indomitable spirit yet I'm afraid your perception is easier to believe. Our countrymen (no, I will not say countrypeople) battled the British to gain our independence and were willing to fight in the Civil War to maintain our nation.

Seems we've gotten too fat and happy and materialistic and we don't appreciate hearing nasty talk of Islamists taking over America.

Nothing more than exaggerated hype. (sarc)

26 posted on 06/24/2007 9:16:52 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: irv

You don’t have a tagline, but you just gave me a good one! :)


27 posted on 06/24/2007 9:16:58 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (For evil to win, it is only necessary for Jimmy Carter to be considered a role model.)
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To: GFritsch
...our already illegal alien overcrowded nation...

The federal gov't cannot guarantee us that Islamic headhunters have no way of infiltrating through the Mexican border. Knowing that, it boggles my mind that they have our military fighting insurgents in Iraq.

Won't we have to take steps that border on extreme?

We also have to take steps that are extreme on that border.

Sorry. I couldn't resist!

28 posted on 06/24/2007 9:42:17 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: To Hell With Poverty

Always happy to help.


29 posted on 06/24/2007 11:39:34 PM PDT by irv
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To: GFritsch
There is nothing immoral about self-defense or self-preservation.

The longer the West waits to fight back the bloodier it is going to get.

In the end, you are going to have to take the advise of Ann Coulter or you are going to perish.

30 posted on 06/25/2007 1:25:36 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Marine_Uncle
"Well put. Part of the problem, obviously is Islam is recognized as a religion rather then a devious cult. The American heritage is based on allowing all kinds of riff raf to come onto our shores. The liberalization of America prohibits it’s wise to act more in a prudent way."

In the last few years I have noticed more and more FReepers coming to the realization that Islam is not just a religion in the classical sense. It is a political ideology just like Communism.

Sadly Americans have no qualms about killing Communists or Nazis - but mention Muslims and suddenly they freeze up and start repeating the "freedom of religion" shtick like a bunch of malfunctioning robots.

I have to give Al Qaeda and OBL credit where credit is due - they knew the Achilles Heel of the Americans and they knew how to exploit it.

31 posted on 06/25/2007 1:34:04 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Pokey78

Thanks so much for the ping, Pokey!


32 posted on 06/25/2007 4:51:18 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (I weed, therefore I curse.)
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To: goldstategop

bttt


33 posted on 06/25/2007 8:45:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (Pimping Bush&Kennedy want to sell American citizenship for $5,000.)
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To: expatguy
I had noticed some rather very disturbing things about Islam reading books on the subject back in the 80's. But until the past six years or so I did not fully realize how many of them where stone stupid and viciouse at the same time.

34 posted on 06/25/2007 5:09:08 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: goldstategop

Steyn bump


35 posted on 06/25/2007 5:41:49 PM PDT by Dajjal
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