Posted on 04/19/2007 6:38:49 AM PDT by meg88
The disturbing and cryptic video clips, photographs and manifesto the killer Cho Seung Hui sent to NBC News instantly reminded me of the taped testimonials suicide bombers leave behind to justify their crimes.
It looked so familiar -- an angry young man dressed in battle clothing preach a message full of hate in front of a drab background. I have seen many of these videos over the years in the Middle East.
The attackers always stress a desire to battle injustice and moral turpitude; they all believe they are avengers of the righteous. The videos are also replete with religious references.
Cho repeatedly mentions Christ, suffering and isolation. There appear to have also been references to the Koran.
On the package sent to NBC, Cho uses the name "A. Ishmael." He is also reported to have had the words "Ismail Ax" tattooed or written on one arm.
Ismail is the Koranic name of Abraham's first-born son. In one of the central stories of the Koran, God orders Abraham (called Ibrahim) to sacrifice Ismail as a test of faith, but then intervenes and replaces him with a sheep.
Internet speculation The Islamic Threat website said: Cho "knew exactly the significance of the name in Islam as far as blood sacrifices are concerned which leads me to think that there might have been Islamic motivation behind the madness he displayed."
The Arab New Service website said: "The Chicago Tribune reports that Virginia Tech University massacre perpetrator, Cho Seung-Hui, died with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on one of his arms.
Hmmm . . . Ismail -- the Arabic name for Ishmael -- considered the father of all Arabs and a very important figure in Islam. I'm sure it's just a coincidence, right?
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In his note Cho mentions “John Mark Karrs” and “Debra Lafaves” along with Bush, Kim Jong-Il, and Osama. It is just a disjointed mess of twisted logic from a deranged mind and nothing more.
He also calls “88” the “Number of the Anti-Terrorist”.
Absolutely correct. His rant against "the rich" proves it.
When I heard his ranting about rich people and Christians I thought I was listening to a Democratic platform speech.
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So did I.
” If NBC doesn’t release the entire UNEDITED version, countless conspiracy theories will flourish. “
They would have already,
if it looked bad for NBC’s enemy, conservatives.
I also wonder what he picked up, and from whom.
Excellent analysis, and until I see evidence to the contrary, I agree.
Most of his behavior can be explained simply:
He was sad, sick, felt left out of life, evil overtook his reason, and he acted out the anger he felt for himself.
He was a small, ugly, angry man, impotent and crippled emotionally.
I think that’s all there is to it.
The stuff about Islam is far fetched and gives him too much credit.
In the Old Testament, Abraham is called by God to sacrifice his legitimate son, Isaac, who is ultimately replaced by a sheep, not his illegitimate son, Ishmael.
“To have Engel outright say there is likely an Islamic connection here is interesting...he is a well-respected mainstream reporter.”
“Maybe he has seen the entire video. We certainly haven’t.”
This is interesting...yes, I wonder about the entirety of the video...
“To have Engel outright say there is likely an Islamic connection here is interesting...he is a well-respected mainstream reporter.”
Engel has probably seen much much more of the material than NBC has broadcast, giving me the impression that there is more to this Ismail thing than the media is letting on as of yet. References the Koran? What kind of references is what I want to know.
A survivor was just on CNN talking about how he believes Cho was possessed by a demon, that he just felt something evil inside him besides just his evil actions and behavior.
Interesting...
You never know I guess. It is possible, though I didn’t think about it.
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Fine, except that Engel does not outright say "there is likely an Islamic connection here".
I would also note he said he was “going to die like Jesus Christ.”
Muslims do not believe that JC was crucified & returned from the dead. (They believe that Judas was replaced for him.)
At most, he was influenced by some muslim mumbo-jumbo, but it just as easily could have been Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
I don’t know if he wasn’t “smart.” I would be surprised if his IQ was at least above average. This took some planning and gumption -— chaining the doors, etc. (No, that’s not a compliment. The Holocaust took some planning and gumption, too.)
Emotional quotient (EQ — also necessary for good creative writing)? A complete ‘tard.
But I do agree he wasn’t as IQ-smart as his elder sister (Princeton grad, well on her way) -— a big blow to a male in Korean society -— which is probably all it took for someone this unstable to feel worthless.
Interestingly, I have a Korean engineer who works for me.
His dad reported that the official news version in Korea is that this guy was a Chinese national.
Wonder if it’s just misreporting or wishful thinking.
What was Cho's DU name?
>>>Article stated: “In one of the central stories of the Koran, God orders Abraham (called Ibrahim) to sacrifice Ismail as a test of faith, but then intervenes and replaces him with a sheep.”<<<
>>>hsalaw responded: “In the Old Testament, Abraham is called by God to sacrifice his legitimate son, Isaac, who is ultimately replaced by a sheep, not his illegitimate son, Ishmael.”<<<
I noticed that, too. Thank you for posting it. Reposting it for emphasis.
Now that is has been posted, it will inspire other violent losers to go out in a blaze of glory, confident that their message will be broadcast 24 hours a day and printed in newspapers everywhere.
The creep’s picture should not have been printed. His name should have been kept secret. His message should have been examined ONLY by the police. He should have been described only as a “mentally disturbed misfit”.
Germinated in the anti American cess pit of Northern Virginia (only the SF Bay Area is more liberal). Transplanted to the deep soil of hatred and anti Western bile of a university. The weed flowered and went to seed, sowing terror, destruction and horror. Yet another middle class person, like the 9-11 20, who became an enemy of civilization and acted on the darkest impulses.
Nonsense. His entire manifesto needs to be publically released so any of us can examine it and draw our own conclusions. This is a free country. The MSM is clearly agenda driven and they’ll do everything they can to protect their agenda. Thus, we do not need their phony pretend “filter out information for our own good” bs.
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