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Rudolph Giuliani?
American Thinker ^ | February 21, 2007 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 02/20/2007 10:24:10 PM PST by neverdem

Rudolph Giuliani for president?  Please.  There's more chance I'll simultaneously be made head of NOW and the NAACP and be invited to George Soros' next soiree. 

I know a little something about Giuliani.  Although my politics, faith, appearance, gun case and, well, most everything about me say otherwise, I was raised in New York City.  And one of my last acts before departing the Den of Iniquity for suburbia was to cast a vote for America's Mayor.  Don't hold it against me; he was running against David Dinkins, a man who made Forrest Gump look smart. 

Unlike the piece I wrote about the now listing U.S.S. Mitt Romney, I'm not herein trying to sound the alarm.  Rather, I simply point out that Giuliani is a ship that only floats in New York Harbor.  He is far too liberal to get the Republican nomination.  

I've never witnessed a more laughable game of collective "Let's pretend" than the media's Giuliani coverage.  Even Dick Morris, the erstwhile Clinton propaganda minister who fancies himself the Niccolo Machiavelli of the third millennium, has called Giuliani the man to beat.   

He's more like the man who will be beaten - and by more than one candidate, mind you.

The media love to point out how Giuliani is the poll-leader for the Republican nomination, a fact which means absolutely nothing.  All many people in middle America know about him is that he didn't pull a Ray Nagin on 9/11 - he stoically shepherded his city through that dark hour - and that he rendered a captivating, earthy speech at the 2004 Republican National Convention.  And on his list of credits I'll add that after ferociously battling the mafia as a United States Attorney, he followed suit as mayor and cleaned up NYC, reducing crime and improving quality of life. 

This is all well and good but, unfortunately, Giuliani only looks palatable when viewed through the narrow prism of these few events.  And sometime very soon the average Republican voter will learn something: Liberal NY Republicans are different from liberal NY Democrats.  They have an "R" next to their names.

As mayor, Giuliani never missed a chance to march in the "Gay Pride" parade.  He actively supported "gay rights" and said he was "proud" of his domestic partnership initiative (a step toward anti-marriage).  Most egregiously, he once opined that homosexuality is "good and normal." 

Giuliani also favored government funding for abortion and said that the type of infanticide known as "partial-birth abortion" should not be outlawed in NY.  And while he now says he is "personally opposed to abortion," he also once asserted, "I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."  I guess he thinks his kids should have the right to choose and receive Big Daddy funding.

Giuliani has also been an advocate of abridging Second Amendment rights and the type of invidious discrimination known as affirmative action.  He has opposed school prayer and tuition tax credits.  He at one time said he endeavors to resurrect the spirit of Rockefeller Republicanism and that he would consider endorsing Bill Clinton, stating "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine."  Then, he did in fact endorse ultra-liberal NY governor Mario Cuomo in 1994.  Anyway, enough about that.  You get the idea.

My point is that Giuliani's golfer son has more of a chance of winning the Masters (he is a phenomenal player) than father does of capturing the Republican nomination.  Allow me to lend this some perspective.

The hate-America-first crowd likes to say, perhaps when pondering the political prospects of Lady Macbeth and  Barack Obama, that no woman or black person could be elected president.   But now let's talk about something unprecedented that actually is impossible. 

To the best of my knowledge:

- No pro-abortion candidate has ever won the Republican nomination.

- Nobody who has been in bed with the homosexual lobby has ever won the Republican nomination. 

- Nobody who has opposed Second Amendment rights has ever won the Republican nomination. 
And some think a man saddled with all three negatives will do so in 2008?

What I find truly amazing is that this reality escapes Giuliani.  What is this man thinking?  Does he fancy that the average Republican voter is a Times Echo?  Talk about believing your own press clippings.

The only interesting aspect of the Giuliani coverage is why the media would press forward, seemingly oblivious to the man's lack of viability.  The obvious answer is that it's an alluring story, as Giuliani has a marquee name and a scintillating, romantic persona.  It's also possible some in the Media wish to secure a Hillary versus Rudy match-up, thereby ensuring that a liberal will take the oath of office in 2009.  Then there's the fact that press lunkheads live such an insular existence, surrounded by so many fellow travelers, that they start to view themselves as the true center.  They then come to believe they represent a fair cross-section of America.  My guess, though, is that the coverage is probably attributable to all of the above.

Anyway, I don't know what Giuliani's presidential "exploratory committee" told him a while back, but I could have provided the truth at a tenth the cost.  Mr. Mayor, you'd stand a better chance running as an independent; then you might at least be able to make a respectable showing.  But, really, you'd be best off devoting your resources to any PGA Tour ambitions your son may be nursing.  You miss left far too much to be a contender.


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1 posted on 02/20/2007 10:24:12 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

It's late:30 here in the central time zone, I'm going to bed.

By the way, Rudy's a flaming liberal.


2 posted on 02/20/2007 10:34:08 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: neverdem
Rather, I simply point out that Giuliani is a ship that only floats in New York Harbor. He is far too liberal to get the Republican nomination.


Then why bother even writing this article? He is disingenuous....meaning he is lying and he knows it. Typical RudyHater ...ignore all polling data showing that the base likes Rudy...even in ALABAMA and won't acknowledge it's his to lose.


PURE FLOP SWEAT
3 posted on 02/20/2007 10:38:11 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: neverdem; DocH; wagglebee; cgk; sitetest; jla; Fierce Allegiance; NapkinUser; EternalVigilance; ...

Selwyn Duke gets it!

FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!


4 posted on 02/20/2007 10:38:31 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

To the best of my knowledge:


- No pro-abortion candidate has ever won the Republican nomination.

- Nobody who has been in bed with the homosexual lobby has ever won the Republican nomination.

- Nobody who has opposed Second Amendment rights has ever won the Republican nomination.


5 posted on 02/20/2007 10:40:47 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man
Selwyn Duke gets it!



Then what are you worried about?

Why spend so much time disparaging Rudy when he doesn't have a chance?

Don't you know the polls are all MSM rigged?

Why all the Flop Sweating from the Rudy Haters?
6 posted on 02/20/2007 10:42:51 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: Blackirish
>>>>>Then why bother even writing this article?

Aside from exposing Rudy for the liberal he is, I think he likes pi$$ing off you RudyBots.

7 posted on 02/20/2007 10:45:29 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Blackirish

"the base likes Rudy...even in ALABAMA "




Alabama doesn't know the facts, YET!


8 posted on 02/20/2007 10:46:37 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (BUAIDH NO BAS, JUST SAY NO TO RINO!)
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To: Blackirish
Then why bother even writing this article?

Mitt Romney: A Massachusetts Liberal for President

He's just describing reality, just like he did in the Romney article. I grew up in NYC. I've been back here since 1994. Draft Fred Thompson.

9 posted on 02/20/2007 10:47:19 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Blackirish
He is disingenuous....meaning he is lying and he knows it.

Yes, he is. Rudy's ship has left New York Harbor no matter how he claims to have seen it still anchored. I'm not necessarily on board but I'm not stupid enough to deny that it's sailing.

10 posted on 02/20/2007 10:49:16 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: neverdem

Great article.


11 posted on 02/20/2007 10:56:22 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Maybe the Democrats will accidentally nominate a conservative.)
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To: Blackirish

Flop sweat?

It's 22 months before the election. About a year before the primaries. You may want to look up the origin of "flop sweat" before you try to turn a clever phrase. The 'show' (primary season) hasn't even started.

BTW, it's the rudybots who get throw a fit every time the truth about their favorite liberal hope is revealed. IT's a personal attack to bring facts about a RINO to light.

What do liberals and rudy supporters have in common? They both get pissed when you tell the truth about the things they support.


12 posted on 02/20/2007 10:57:56 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: neverdem
"To the best of my knowledge:

- No pro-abortion candidate has ever won the Republican nomination."

Gerald Ford, 1976.

13 posted on 02/20/2007 10:58:01 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: neverdem
Draft Fred Thompson
........


Are you drinking ? He quit politics years ago went into acting and retired...he's like 75 years old. He's less of a chance as Custer's Bugler who has more chance of being POTUS as Dunkin Huntin.
14 posted on 02/20/2007 10:58:13 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Strange case of an unelected president becoming the incumbent. On his own, without having incumbency on his side, he probably wouldn't have won the nomination.

BTW, running that RINO lead to electing to the country electing the worst president ever. A lesson to the Rudy / romneybots here.


15 posted on 02/20/2007 11:00:28 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: neverdem
No pro-abortion candidate has ever won the Republican nomination.

If memory serves, I believe that President Ford (nominated in 1976) was pro-abortion.

16 posted on 02/20/2007 11:01:52 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: Reagan Man
I am Rudy bot 3.0 I have come to collect your guns and force you to marry your buddy Andy... resistance is futile

In seriousness;

I ask you out civility and honesty to remove the fuhgetaboutit from your signature line. It's a slang term synonymous with the mob in which Rudy combated. Love em or hate em, please don't slime a fellow republican like that. If he is as horrible as you say the truth should give you enough ammo. I can not force you to do this but I humbly ask you to honor my request.
17 posted on 02/20/2007 11:05:39 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: flashbunny
Then why bother FB..? Your a charter member of the RudyHaters club. If he has no chance why are you wasting your time bashing him. FLOP SWEAT.


Cuz you know ....unless your ignorant so I'll inform you that it may be "22 months before the election" but super Tuesday is Feb 5 08 ...LESS THEN A YEAR AWAY.

FLA...PA...OH...IL...NJ...NC... CA....all voting the same day.

Kinda favors name recondition and big money....favors Rudy and thats why you're flop sweating.
18 posted on 02/20/2007 11:06:30 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: flashbunny

"running that RINO lead to electing to the country electing..."

Damn you and your typos! Off to bed!


19 posted on 02/20/2007 11:06:38 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: spikeytx86

STOP whining! LMBO


20 posted on 02/20/2007 11:06:49 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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