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Rudolph Giuliani?
American Thinker ^ | February 21, 2007 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 02/20/2007 10:24:10 PM PST by neverdem

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To: snowsislander

I believe Lincoln was pro-abortion also.


21 posted on 02/20/2007 11:10:02 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Blackirish
Are you drinking ? He quit politics years ago went into acting and retired...he's like 75 years old. He's less of a chance as Custer's Bugler who has more chance of being POTUS as Dunkin Huntin.

THOMPSON, Fred Dalton, a Senator from Tennessee; born in Sheffield, Ala., on August 19, 1942

You're off by a decade. Did you learn the new math?

22 posted on 02/20/2007 11:12:16 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Blackirish; Spiff
Typical RudyHater ...ignore all polling data showing that the base likes Rudy...even in ALABAMA

Well I don't know about the base, but THESE guys LOVE him!
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Think THIS will play in Alabama?!? Uh uh Sparky, not now, not ever.
23 posted on 02/20/2007 11:14:47 PM PST by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: Reagan Man
It's not whining, it was a friendly request. If you don't like em that's fine, we all get a turn in the voting booth come primary time. Just don't go for the low blow, Rudy is no goombah.

With all do respect, and I do respect you out of your admiration and support for Reagan, why do you have to be a smart ass all the time? I have tried to have honest discussions with you in the past about Rudy and it always delves into condescension and name calling. I believe we can debate and disagree civilly over the primary contest, were both on the same team in the end.
24 posted on 02/20/2007 11:15:03 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: mkjessup
Gasp! he doesn't hate gay's!
25 posted on 02/20/2007 11:16:41 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: neverdem

Jeez your right ...with all his clean living you'd think he'd look younger.


26 posted on 02/20/2007 11:16:50 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: Blackirish

Uh, that's why I said "about a year" to the primaries.

Why am I "wasting my time bashing him"? I'm just getting the TRUTH out about him. If you consider telling people the truth to be bashing, then you're closer to liberal than you probably want to admit.

The funniest thing was when I made up some rudy & romney rino cards that stated their liberal positions in THEIR OWN WORDS, all the rudybots complained about it being "spam" on "every thread", even though I had put them up only on a few threads in the 24 hours since I made them. They HATE the fact that rudy can be exposed as the liberal he is so easily. They squeal like a stuck pig when people DARE expose their favorite rinos!

More and more is coming out about rudy. People don't know him and his positions. They only know personality now. More and more fact FACTS about rudy are coming out. About his positions, about his past. They're all true. And every time they come out, the rudybots get in a snit because it puts a dent in the pedestal they've built for him.

Just wait. I'm going to enjoy watching the this personality based "lead" for rudy to erode when people get to know the real LIBERAL rudy.

As far as flop sweat, it refers to when you're on stage. That would be the primaries, not nearly a year before they start. But you think you've come up with a clever quip and you're trying to use it as much as you can, aren't you?


27 posted on 02/20/2007 11:17:07 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: flashbunny
"FLOP SWEAT" is an old theatre term and yes, I know exactly what it means.

The front loading of the primaries changes EVERYTHING; it'll be all over but the crying.

28 posted on 02/20/2007 11:19:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: flashbunny; Spiff
You sidestepped the question. If Rudy has NO CHANCE why spend hour after hour on a website raging against him?

Down deep your scared...you know it's his to lose so..FLOP SWEAT.
29 posted on 02/20/2007 11:21:02 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: neverdem
The pushing of a radical socialist--one who agrees on most issues with Hillary--in our Party is a lost cause now.



Calling Giuliani on his many lies
World Net Daily ^ | 19 February 2007 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 02/19/2007 12:01:25 AM PST by Spiff



So seeing that their sugar daddies have given them more than enough money to sponsor and control the media over the past 35 years or so, who will Hillary's insurgents front-up for us next?
30 posted on 02/20/2007 11:23:26 PM PST by familyop
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To: Blackirish

Do you think it might be a bit too early to get so solidly behind any candidate? Why not wait and see who all the candidates will be before making a selection?


31 posted on 02/20/2007 11:25:02 PM PST by alnick
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To: Dolphy
Rudy's ship has left New York Harbor

Sure, but his big ship is already taking on water. He already has all the buzz and momentum he's going to get, based on his "America's Mayor" celebrity and those few particulars noted in the article. Everything else voters can learn about him can only bring him down.

32 posted on 02/20/2007 11:26:17 PM PST by FreePoster
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To: alnick
Why not wait and see who all the candidates will be before making a selection?



I agree. I will vote for who ever the Repubs nominate. So why all the unbridled rage against the ex Mayor of NYCity?
33 posted on 02/20/2007 11:28:17 PM PST by Blackirish
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To: Blackirish

I don't know. Why don't you ask someone who's displaying unbridled rage?

I'm completely undecided, except for one thing. I will not vote for McCain in the primaries.

As of now I'm praying for the best possible candidate to emerge.


34 posted on 02/20/2007 11:30:23 PM PST by alnick
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To: familyop

Thanks for the link.


35 posted on 02/20/2007 11:33:13 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Blackirish

"You sidestepped the question. If Rudy has NO CHANCE why spend hour after hour on a website raging against him?"

Check your prescription...eyeglass and otherwise. I'm not the one who said "no chance".

"Down deep your scared."

My scared what?

I'm not scared. I, and others with similar positions on this board, are intent on exposing him for what he is.

His support is based on personality and public image. There is no "there" there right now. Primary voters really don't have much of an idea where he stands on the issues that matter to them, because no debates have taken place and no real campaigning has begun. That will happen in time, and his support will erode.

Why do we spend time "raging against him"? I read and participate in these threads to gain and share information on the candidates, and to help prevent the bad ones from getting through to the nomination.

The question to you is, with 11+ months to the first primary, why are you throwing all your support behind the most liberal candidate in the field instead of trying to help more conservative candidates? Is it because in truth you actually are liberal yourself, and rudy represents your ideals - pro roe v wade, anti 2nd amendment, pro illegal immigration,etc???


36 posted on 02/20/2007 11:37:45 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: neverdem

You're welcome. WND has its quirks, but it certainly gets enough traffic to get the word out.

On objections to publishing such needed material, I haven't seen so many calls for censorship since watching radical feminists do so against family rights discussions.


37 posted on 02/20/2007 11:38:45 PM PST by familyop
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To: Reagan Man
Conservatives don't vote for liberals!

That might be true, but many of the pitchfork and torch crowd on FR these days are hardly conservatives. They're extremists. There's no other word for it. They are extreme in their viewpoints, extreme in their language, extreme in their emotions, extreme in their viciousness. They aren't conservatives, because they defame everything that is decent and honorable about conservatism. The only "values" they honor are scorn, hatred, and character assassination. These are the same people who said the most vile things about Pres. Bush in the run-up to the '04 re-election campaign. They are extremists -- the most vile elements of our culture, and I see no distinction between them and the extreme leftists.

38 posted on 02/20/2007 11:44:43 PM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: nopardons

""FLOP SWEAT" is an old theatre term and yes, I know exactly what it means."

Then you know it refers to when someone is dying on stage, not 10 months before the play begins. As the person is using it, it's ridiculous. The only time it would be apt is right before the primaries or after they start and rudy has an insurmountable lead.


39 posted on 02/20/2007 11:53:10 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs! 2008 GOP RINO cards!)
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To: spikeytx86
Your request was downright silly and not deserving of a serious answer from me.

For the better part of the last six months I've attempted to engage Giuliani`s supporters in civil debate. Unlike some other anti-Rudy FReepers, I've stuck to the facts and not made it personal. IMO, Rudy`s supporters aren't interested in debating his liberal record and would rather ignore it. That is the height of arrogance. Frankly, at this point I'm not into wasting my time with the RudyBots. People who want to ignore Rudy`s big govt, pro-abort, pro-gay, pro-amnesty, global warming kookiness and anti-gun record will not get the right time of day from me.

40 posted on 02/20/2007 11:54:06 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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