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Sperm donor father meets his six offspring
Times Online ^ | February 15, 2007 | Devika Bhat

Posted on 02/16/2007 6:43:00 AM PST by NYer

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To: frogjerk

"Those aren't the only two choices in this circumstance. There is another choice which was never ruled out by the article. The choice of the woman to have a real Father in the life of the child."

I know I went to public school, but I never read where the teenagers did or didn't have two parents. The story only dealt with the teenagers trying to find the sperm donor.

"Here lies the first ethical/moral fault in this circumstance"

You may disagree with the choice, but it has been made. Once again, if the mother had not used a sperm donor, these children would not exist. Given the two choices, I would have chosen to be born. I infer from your comments, that you would have not existed if your mother's only choice was to either use artificial insemination or not to have a child.

"You can drop the abortion discussion because neither one of us is speaking to it."

I didn't bring up the abortion issue, you had on an earlier post. I had stated the two choices were to be born or to never have existed. I think you equated never have existed with an abortion. Were typing about an hot issue and mistakes are made. Abortion isn't revelant in this spefic topic.

In a perfect world, the perfect choice is always available. In reality, these teenagers had only two options, their mother could use a sperm donor or the teenagers would never have existed. We don't know enough about each teenager and their history. They might all have parents and the fathers for a variety of reasons could not produce sperm or I'm sure a few have mothers who wanted to raise a child by themselves. We will never know since the story never addresses or discusses who raised the teenagers.


81 posted on 02/16/2007 1:48:22 PM PST by art_rocks
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To: popdonnelly

That was my first thought too. Where is the money for college, Dad?


82 posted on 02/16/2007 2:00:35 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: gracesdad; frogjerk
You do realize there are married couples who use donated sperm because the man is in capable of impregnating the woman? I know such a couple and they have two wonderful children. Are they also wrong? If so, why?

I'll respond. There are millions of children in the world who have no parents. Your friends, in their desire to have children, could have opened their hearts and home to any one or two or three or more of those children. Instead, they went with a donor. What assurances have these people been given that when their children grow up, they won't fall in love with and marry a 'sperm' sibling? The entire concept of donor insemination is wrong. It goes against the natural laws of procreation.

83 posted on 02/16/2007 4:20:30 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

"The entire concept of donor insemination is wrong. It goes against the natural laws of procreation."

In your opinion. I would strongly disagree. So would my friends, who dearly love their children.

"What assurances have these people been given that when their children grow up, they won't fall in love with and marry a 'sperm' sibling?"

OK, my friends adopt a child instead. Exactly what assurances do they have THAT child won't grow up and fall in love with a sibling or half-sibling? None, of course. It's a pretty ridiculous worry in either case.


84 posted on 02/16/2007 4:43:55 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: art_rocks
We will never know since the story never addresses or discusses who raised the teenagers.

Well we know it wasn't the biological father, and for no good reason either.

85 posted on 02/16/2007 4:47:47 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: art_rocks
In reality, these teenagers had only two options, their mother could use a sperm donor or the teenagers would never have existed.

In reality the mother could have married someone who could have been the father.

86 posted on 02/16/2007 4:48:45 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: frogjerk

"I'm talking about this particular situation related to the original posting. Please do not assume that I am talking about all situations especially the type of situation that you mentioned."

Where's the part that says the mothers were single? Or are you just assuming?


87 posted on 02/16/2007 4:49:49 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: art_rocks
You may disagree with the choice, but it has been made.

I do disagree with the choice, and you state the obvious when you state it is better the children existed but that fact cannot preclude the other fact that a poor decision was made in the first place.

88 posted on 02/16/2007 4:51:17 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: frogjerk

"In reality the mother could have married someone who could have been the father."

The mother may be married. We don't know since the story never discussed the teenagers background other than to indicate their birth was due to artificial insemination.

Why do you keep insisting the mother aren't married and the kids don't have fathers who have raised them?


89 posted on 02/16/2007 4:57:55 PM PST by art_rocks
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To: NYer
Here's an interesting letter to the editor for a related article in the NY Times: [“Hello, I’m Your Sister. Our Father is Donor 150,” Nov. 20, 2005]

To the editor:

The article [“Hello, I’m Your Sister. Our Father is Donor 150,” Nov. 20, 2005] presents the rosy side of half-siblings who share the same sperm donor meeting and forging relationships with one another. I have spent time reading the same email listserve the reporter used and seen other stories as well. Some donor insemination mothers were surprised and vaguely disturbed to find their child’s half-siblings were of a different race. At least one heterosexual couple was shocked to find their child’s half-sibling being raised by lesbians. Other donor insemination mothers who were getting along famously, trading pictures of their kids and getting them together regularly, soon dropped all contact after feuding over what to call the biological father. Some mothers insist he is dad; others insist he is just a sperm donor.

What struck me most was the reporter’s frequent acknowledgement that these donor insemination kids long to feel “whole.” In the years to come, will these half-siblings be able to help each other in achieving that goal? We don’t yet know.

Sincerely,

Elizabeth Marquardt
Affiliate Scholar
Institute for American Values

90 posted on 02/16/2007 5:02:26 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: art_rocks

Why are the kids "longing" to find their biological fathers?


91 posted on 02/16/2007 5:03:25 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: art_rocks
Why do you keep insisting the mother aren't married and the kids don't have fathers who have raised them?

Because many of these mothers do this sort of thing.

92 posted on 02/16/2007 5:04:42 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: Ditter
He looks like a scrawny creep who lives in a van down by the river.

And there is probably a good reason for that!!

93 posted on 02/16/2007 5:05:17 PM PST by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet.)
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To: NYer



There's a whole lot of 'donors' out there, actually....
94 posted on 02/16/2007 5:11:07 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: maggief
His body language is gay.

Just an observation.

Not that there's anything wrong with it.

95 posted on 02/16/2007 7:42:44 PM PST by happygrl
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