Posted on 01/23/2007 1:36:21 PM PST by SirLinksalot
The incipient implosion of Islam
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Let me start you off with a brief, exciting story about a jailbreak in Iran that beats anything Hollywood will do this year. And it's all true! Read about it here. Now, that was just a quick peek at the human drama and divine power you never hear about despite the millions of noisy words pouring out of the media on Iraq, Iran and the Islamic menace.
Last February, Joel C. Rosenberg gave us another astonishing glimpse into the real Muslim world:
Last week I took my wife and kids to see the Egyptian premiere of "Narnia" in Cairo. The film was as wonderful as we had hoped. But I must confess that far more interesting to me than watching digital lions and beavers come to life was being in a theater jam-packed with Muslims mesmerized by a thinly-veiled parable of Jesus Christ, penned by one of the 20th century's greatest Christian writers. Every seat was taken, and when we left, the theater's lobby could not contain all those hoping to get into the 10 o'clock show. The same was true in the spring of 2003 when ... Muslims packed movie theaters throughout the Middle East to see Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ." They were watching Jesus teach. They were watching Him suffer and die and rise again. They were crying sobbing, in many cases as they continued to flood the theaters night after night.
Doesn't sound much like the Muslim jihadists you see in the liberal media, does it? Those media know what sells papers and draws viewers: Conflict. Scandals. Outrage. Violence. Hatred. Head-on collisions between groups and nations. Anything else may get short shrift.
For instance, did the liberal media tell you about the Reconciliation Walk? From 1996-1999, teams of Christians trekked along the same route that the Crusaders did 900 years before from Cologne, Germany, to Jerusalem. About 2,000 marchers, cycling in and out, visited Muslim and Jewish villages and cities. And as they went, they wore T-shirts proclaiming in Arabic or Hebrew, "I apologize" and called out, "We're sorry." Astonished Muslims poured out of their homes and into the streets, many of them applauding and cheering wildly, some of them weeping. The marchers were hugged warmly and invited in for dinner. City mayors welcomed them with heartfelt, emotional speeches. That beats bullets six ways to Sunday.
But now it's all gone and forgotten, buried under millions of conflict-promoting words.
Well, I do believe in staying the course in this messy war against Islamism because many militant Muslim leaders understand nothing but force. But now Mr. Rosenberg has just brought us fresh data, reminding us of how the Holy Spirit is outpacing any progress we could make with guns:
More Muslims converted to faith in Jesus Christ over the past decade than at any other time in human history. A spiritual revolution is under way throughout North Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia: Iraq: More than 5,000 new Muslim converts to Christianity have been identified since the end of major combat operations. ... Also, more than 1 million Bibles [were] shipped into the country since 2003, and pastors report Iraqis are snatching them up so fast they constantly need more Bibles.
Afghanistan: only 17 Muslim converts to Christianity before 9/11/01, but now more than 10,000.
Kazakstan: only three known Christians in 1990, but now more than 15,000.
Uzbekistan: no known Christians in 1990, but now more than 30,000.
Iran: In 1979, there were only 500 known Muslim converts to Christianity, but today Iranian pastors and evangelical leaders tell me there are more than 1 million Iranian believers in Jesus Christ, most of whom meet in underground house churches.
Sudan: More than 1 million Sudanese have converted to Christianity just since 2000, and some 5 million have become Christians since the early 1990s, despite a radical Islamic regime and an ongoing genocide. ... Why such a dramatic spiritual awakening? "People have seen real Islam, and they want Jesus instead," one Sudanese evangelical leader told me.
But perhaps the most startling picture that Rosenberg gives us is from Egypt:
Egypt: Some reports say 1 million Egyptians have trusted Christ over the past decade or so. The Egyptian Bible Society told me they used to sell about 3,000 copies of the JESUS film a year in the early 1990s. But last year they sold 600,000 copies, plus 750,000 copies of the Bible on tape.
The shocker is that 600,000 figure. Each circulating copy of JESUS in the Mideast will, on average, draw about 4.1 Muslims into a saving relationship with Christ. Do the math!
I think our troops are winning, but I know Jesus is winning.
I read this before but would like actual sources to verify the statistics on the number of conversions.
bump for Jesus...
I sure hope so.
While I often check-in with WND, I know it has it's own Christian agenda. Because of that, the substance of this item must be treated skeptically.
Encyclopedia of Islam Myths:
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Islam: Truth or Myth? start page |
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Comments and Observations:
Introduction:
The Islamic religion has a long history of myth making. The claim they are the fastest growing religion in the world is pure myth. We have collected the latest statistics from David A. Barretts huge two volume, "World Christian Encyclopedia", the 2001 AD edition. In case you havent heard of this work, it is the world standard for religious statistics.
Muslim's claim that their growth rate is 235 percent and 47 percent for Christianity. This statistic came from the Readers Digest Almanac and Yearbook 1983, and represents 235 percent increase over 50 years. Muslims always leave off the 50 year fact to make it appear they are going 235% every year. A simple review of the readers Digest study shows that the growth rate of Islam vs. Christianity is directly linked to the birth rate in Third World countries where Islam dominates and not actual conversions to each religion. Christianity has always been larger than Islam. These statistics from Readers Digest are over 20 years old. Further, we do not consider readers digest to be an authority on such matters. Why will Muslims not quote real authoritative statistics from certified research groups who show Islam is not the fastest growing religion in 3/4s of the worlds countries.
Before we examine the true facts from informed statisticians, we want to make it clear that we are not claiming Christianity is the fastest growing religion on earth. Such a claim is a needless as it is irresponsible. Having said this, in terms of sheer numbers, there are more Christians being added to planet earth, than any other religion on earth, including Islam. (see Table 1-2 for proof.) Relative size and growth of Islam to Christianity:
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1,188,242,789 |
865,558 |
1,372 |
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1,999,563,838 |
2,501,396 |
799 |
Conclusion:
Written by Brother Andrew
Wow. Maybe we should put more assets towards this style of winning the war against radicalism. Truly a reason for hope.
People may not give Pat Robertson's media much credence, but here is their report for what it's worth ...
This disgusts me. The Crusades were a last-ditch attempt to defend Christian lands against the hordes of Muslim barbarians who were spreading their faith by the sword. Unfortunately they came too little too late, and lost focus due to the fractured nature of the Christian West and East. The people we should be apologizing to died long ago in defense of their homelands.
Complete BS. Muslims make only half of Kazakhstan population. I am afraid that author counts as Christian the converts to his Protestant sect. And probably most of them are lapse Christians from traditional churches.
There are 6 million of Orthodox Christians and more than 300,000 of Catholics. Just the number of Poles who are Catholic is above 100,000!
" The Crusades were a last-ditch attempt to defend Christian lands against the hordes of Muslim barbarians who were spreading their faith by the sword. Unfortunately they came too little too late, and lost focus due to the fractured nature of the Christian West and East. The people we should be apologizing to died long ago in defense of their homelands."
Yep. Article lost me there, as well.
Wasn't Vienna nearly conquered?!
See also here :
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/09/weekinreview/09good.html?ex=1263013200&en=75c169ad9704c297&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland
EXCERPT....
The lack of verifiable historicity, the near non-existent record of textual transmission through the centuries...
The Izzylam-book is BOGUS...
Once the feet of clay are broken-- this thing will fall apart...
JMHO
I was deployed to Uzbekistan, visited a Catholic church in Samarkand, saw a large Orthodox church. Uzbeks proudly informed me they practiced a tolerant form of Islam [Sufism] or didn't practice at all.
There were more than zero Christians in Uzbekistan in 1990 (though seventy years of communism didn't help).
And this Crusades guilt-walk? Gimme a break.
Vienna was almost conquered twice by the Ottoman Turks, once during the Siege of Vienna in 1528, and again at the Battle of Vienna in 1683; twice the Turks were turned back.
While I would like to see the numbers myself, stuff I have heard from missionaries lead me to think that behind all this smoke there is some fire.
It is interesting to me that the Orthodox are often not counted, and the Catholic under counted.
Wow, what a post!
Interesting.
I wonder how New Yorkers would respond to a American Muslim "Reconciliation Walk" down Broadway from midtown to the big hole downtown.
It's way past due.
Sounds like some wishful thinking to me...
Thanks for the post but it really appeared to be propaganda. I have heard that bibles are grabbed as fast as they have them in Iraq. But so much is reported is fiction, I am not credulous.
I got your same stats fom a dramatic story of a guy who was in Iran rescueing Iranian Christians. But his story seem really far fetched.
Christians are reported to leaving Iraq and Lebanon. So I am not convinced that Christians are adding to their numbers.
Also others have noted that the comparison number as 3 Christians in Khazistan is inaccurate. There were more to start off so it appears that a fantastic growth. That is why I want some reliable sources.
Yeas, but these native old-fashioned Christians do not count.
Goes to show that the good news of Jesus is spreading and it gives me hope.
What sort of verification do you want from people living in countries where you can be put to death for converting from Islam?
Just asking.
Not surprising, since Muslims believe Jesus Christ is a Muslim,, and one of their prophets.
The Muslims believe Mohammed is the last prophet after Jesus. Neither Mohammed or Jesus is considered divine by Muslims.
The Muslims believe their prophet Jesus (Isa) was taken up into heaven with Allah and will return. - Tom
By tradition the Kazaks are Sunni Muslims of the Hanafi school, and the Russians are Russian Orthodox. In 1994, some 47 percent of the population was Muslim, 44 percent was Russian Orthodox, and 2 percent was Protestant, mainly Baptist. Some Jews, Catholics, and Pentacostalists also live in Kazakstan; a Roman Catholic diocese was established in 1991. As elsewhere in the newly independent Central Asian states, the subject of Islam's role in everyday life, and especially in politics, is a delicate one in Kazakstan.
http://www.photius.com/countries/kazakhstan/society/kazakhstan_society_religion.html
The vast majority of today's Kyrgyz are Muslims of the Sunni (see Glossary) branch, but Islam came late and fairly superficially to the area. Kyrgyz Muslims generally practice their religion in a specific way influenced by earlier tribal customs. The practice of Islam also differs in the northern and southern regions of the country. Kyrgyzstan remained a secular state after the fall of communism, which had only superficial influence on religious practice when Kyrgyzstan was a Soviet republic. Most of the Russian population of Kyrgyzstan is atheist or Russian Orthodox. The Uzbeks, who make up 12.9 percent of the population, are generally Sunni Muslims.
http://www.photius.com/countries/kyrgyzstan/society/kyrgyzstan_society_religion.html
What standing does anybody living today have to apologize for the actions of people who lived hundreds of years ago? This kind of "Christian" event is wrongheaded, if not completely retarded. I guess it makes them feel good, and then they don't feel the need to spend their time doing the harder work of actually preaching the Gospel to people.
When are the Muslims going to hold "reconciliation walks" to apologize for persecuting non-Muslims and making them live as dhimmis? Don't hold your breath.
Interesting, The Dervishes in Serbia were prosecuted by Albanian Muslims cause they didnt wanted to join in war against Serbs.
In their prays they allways mention Jesus, Isa Pergamber as they call Him.
Dervishes are honored even by Serb Ortodox Christian belivers.
I have never heard of record breaking numbers of Muslims converting to Christianity in recent years. Not once. No mention in the Catholic magazines I read, no mention in my weekly bible study or conversations with the priests I know.
10,000 converts in Afghanistan? 10,000?? There was ONE convert not too long ago which was in the news and the furor throughout the Middle East calling for his death was heard loud and clear. I followed that story and do not recall any mention of 10,000 recent converts as a sidebar to the story.
According to the numbers of converts and the time line in this story Christianity is spreading like the flu in the Middle East. Now that is a dream come true but also one I would need to see at least some type of verifiable source.
Wouldn't you?
"The incipient implosion of Islam ( Christianity is Growing Quickly in Muslim Countries )"
I would settle for rational thought getting a foothold within the middle east. Conversion to Christianity would be icing on the cake.
Religious fervor, irrationality, insanity, barbarism, and ignorance, seem to be the growing tenets and trends there.
Have they always been this screwed up? Or is this a new trend in the last few decades?
I'm quite puzzled by it all, to tell you the truth.
Thanks for injecting some "factual" information into the conversation. The more I read from WND, the more disappointed I get. You would think a news source with a Christian perspective would be at least slightly concerned with the truth. Apparently not.
Which one kills you if you convert from it?
Which one tries to convert all who are not already in it?
Which one is hateful, intolerant and violent?
If the violent ones could be converted to the religion of reconciliation, forgiveness, and love, the world would be a better place.
For what? For defending a land that had been forcibly occupied and a people who had been persecuted? As Yoda would say, "Apologize I don't."
However, they also aren't supposed to believe that Jesus really died on the cross, or was really raised from the dead, and they certainly don't believe that he died as a substitutionary victim to take away the sins of the world.
All of those realities were vividly depicted in Mel Gibson's movie.
I suspect that our armed forces in Iraq are having an impact that goes far beyond fighting the terrorists. It would not surprise me to hear that there Christians in our military spreading the Good News, even if it is in the most subtle ways, and that Iraqis are responding. The thought that there are Christians winning muslims to Christ in Iraq is probably scarier to those mullahs than a boatload of Marines.
Anyway, thank you for posting it :)
--I read this before but would like actual sources to verify the statistics on the number of conversions.--
You don't really question WND, do you?
The situation of islamic countries is similar to that of communist countries in the 70's and 80's. It was forbidden to leave a communist country, and finally communism collapsed, due in large part to the fact that no one truly believed any more. Similarly, it is forbidden to convert from islam. If they have to impose a death penalty to keep people from converting, how vibrant can islam be?
"I have never heard of record breaking numbers of Muslims converting to Christianity in recent years. Not once."
Generally it is kept quiet for political and security reasons. If you take the time to get to know some missionaries (I have friends and relatives who are on-the-ground missionaries), you will find that their experiences match the numbers being talked about in this article.
Some of the numbers for starting quantities of Christians are off, but otherwise the article seems solid to me.
"If they have to impose a death penalty to keep people from converting, how vibrant can islam be?"
Nice summarization.

translation: "Islam used to be, as we stated before, Africa's primary religion...there was around 30 countries that write in arabic , currently the muslim population in Africa dropped to 316 million. Half of that number is of the North African Maghrib arab countries who are muslims anyway. So Africa that we are talking about, the non arabic, now has a muslim population of only 150 million , and if we knew that africa's population is around 1 billion people, then this is for sure a far less ratio/percentage than what it used to be in the beginings of the 20's century....as opposed to this ; The catholic population has risen from around a million of people in 1902 To 329882000 now, lets make it nearer and say 330 million .
As for how this happened, Africa has now a million and half a million churches. The number of the members of these churches 46 million people. Because of the christian missionaries every hour islam loses 667 muslims convert to Christianity, every Day 16000 , every year 6 MILLION."
http://muslim-quotes.netfirms.com/islamgrows.html
This is very encouraging news.
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