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Many to blame for Iraq
Toronto Sun ^ | 11/11/06 | Michael Coren

Posted on 11/11/2006 12:33:46 PM PST by Clive

November 11, 2006 Many to blame for Iraq

By MICHAEL COREN

Another bloody casualty of the war in Iraq. This time it is a number of Republican politicians who have lost their jobs to a collective of Democrats intent on returning their country to the moral ambivalence and sheer political quagmire of Jimmy Carter.

As for Donald Rumsfeld, the only problem with his departure as U.S. Secretary of Defense was that it was far too late.

I'm proud to say that I opposed the war from its very beginning and also denounced the sanctions that were thrown at the Iraqi people. Unlike the current wave of George Bush-bashers, who seem to have only discovered Iraq when the Dixie Chicks told them where it was.

Afghanistan was a different matter, and was a simple case of retaliation against an aggressor and an act of self-defence. Thing is, the Western allies would have been far more successful in that country if so many American and British soldiers sent to Iraq had been used to destroy the Taliban and the other holy fascists.

The only solution to Iraq is to leave it. Not because of the leftists who oppose anything American and not because of those Muslim hypocrites who said nothing when Saddam was slaughtering his own people, but because it has nothing to do with the Western world.

Put at its most crude, if Arabs of one particular creed want to kill Arabs or another particular creed, we have no right to intervene. They have done so for millennia and will almost certainly do so again. We can pray that they won't and we should help the cause of peace and justice, but our place is here and not there.

Left to its own devices, Iraq will reach a natural equilibrium. Many innocent people will die but many innocent people are dying now. It's a tragedy but it's an inevitable one. We can no more stop it than we can halt the passing of the day.

Saddam Hussein should not have been supported in the first place, by the United States, the Soviets and their successors, Britain, France, Germany and almost every other major power. Also supported, we should not forget, by most of the Arab states and especially the Palestinians.

The greatest American president of the 20th century, Dwight D. Eisenhower, showed us the way. He was a fine general who cared deeply about the lives of his men and because he had seen war he hated it. He warned of the military-industrial complex, he was a social conservative and he preferred to play golf than interfere in the country's affairs.

John F. Kennedy, on the other hand, insisted on playing with Marilyn Monroe as well as interfering with the country's affairs. He began genuine American involvement in other people's business, sent troops to Vietnam and handed a legacy that even the great Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan could not resist.

Yet the people who are most critical of George W. Bush are the very people who still look back with adoration on the liberal Kennedy and his interventionist policies. And liberalism is the key. There is nothing conservative about fruitless attempts to impose democracy, equality or enlightenment on other cultures.

We should want all people to be happy, but not necessarily happy according to our own definitions and expectations. Until we grow up and realize that, we will only spread chaos. Better to play golf.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: alqedacheerleader; surrendernow
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1 posted on 11/11/2006 12:33:47 PM PST by Clive
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To: Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

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2 posted on 11/11/2006 12:35:10 PM PST by Clive
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To: Clive
yea lets let al-quaeda turn Iraq into pre-war Afghanistan, who cares.
3 posted on 11/11/2006 12:37:14 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

Won't happen. The Shia are going to take over the country and they are no friend of AQ. They will instead, become a suburb of Iran and with all the problems that will create for the world.


4 posted on 11/11/2006 12:40:48 PM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: misterrob

The power struggle should last quite awhile.


5 posted on 11/11/2006 12:45:01 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Clive

Yo! Mikey! And were you prepared to invade Waziristan [Pakistan]in pursuit of UBL, with all those troops you would have saved by not invading Iraq? You know, the nuclear armed Pakistan? You know, with Iran to your rear?


6 posted on 11/11/2006 12:45:27 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Clive

Mr coren spends too much time looking in his rear view mirror.


7 posted on 11/11/2006 12:45:49 PM PST by himno hero
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To: Clive

Where did this article come from?


8 posted on 11/11/2006 12:46:08 PM PST by SIDENET (Everybody was kung-fu fighting)
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To: Clive
O'Reilly interviewed (Ret.) Col. David Hunt after the Rumsfeld "resignation." Hunt, who appears very conservative, said he felt this move should have been made several years ago because Rumdfeld was "Micro-managing" the war and making many decisions that should be left to commanders in the field.

We haven't done well in wars since civilians started running them.
9 posted on 11/11/2006 12:46:13 PM PST by BW2221
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The power struggle should last quite awhile.

Really? I thought it was a slam dunk.

Silly me.

10 posted on 11/11/2006 12:46:13 PM PST by Wormwood (Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
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To: Clive
I'm proud to say that I opposed the war from its very beginning and also denounced the sanctions that were thrown at the Iraqi people.

Not removing Saddam and not having sanctions = Iraqi WMDs within a relatively short time.

11 posted on 11/11/2006 12:46:37 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Clive

How did they determine that I voted against RINOs as a result of the war in Iraq?


12 posted on 11/11/2006 12:47:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Clive
There is nothing conservative about fruitless attempts to impose democracy, equality or enlightenment on other cultures.

Hey, where's your compassion, conservative?!

</sarcasm>

13 posted on 11/11/2006 12:48:34 PM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: himno hero
"Mr coren spends too much time looking in his rear view mirror."

You learn from history and we didn't learn much from Vietnam.
14 posted on 11/11/2006 12:48:36 PM PST by BW2221
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To: Clive

Good post. This isn't a pure left-right issue. There are Freepers who support the intervention and those who oppose it. I respect both positions but come out against keeping more than half of our ground forces (in-country, refitting or preparing to deploy) there indefinitely. We may need our Army and Marines for other contingencies. And it's not fair to the 1% of the U.S. population that is serving in the military and their families. Two tours is enough.


15 posted on 11/11/2006 12:48:45 PM PST by Man of the Right
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To: Clive

One sometimes has to sit back and look at the Art of Writing.

There are many points we can all agree on. But the underlying assumption is wrong.

So we end up scratching our heads and wondering, yeah, so what?


16 posted on 11/11/2006 12:49:05 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: Clive
The only solution to Iraq is to leave it. Not because of the leftists who oppose anything American and not because of those Muslim hypocrites who said nothing when Saddam was slaughtering his own people, but because it has nothing to do with the Western world.

Huh?

Of course, the writer also thinks Ike was the greatest American President of the 20th century....

susie

17 posted on 11/11/2006 12:49:12 PM PST by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Wormwood

Good Ole Clinton guys.


18 posted on 11/11/2006 12:51:21 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: BW2221

There is no comparison here. none. some want to make it that way. but its not the case.


19 posted on 11/11/2006 12:51:43 PM PST by himno hero
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To: Clive

What part of TERRORIST TRAINING GROUND does the moron author NOT understand? His draft-dodging "hero" BJ Clinton set REGIME CHANGE IN IRAQ as US policy. President Bush had the stones to do more than give the issue lip service.

20 posted on 11/11/2006 12:52:29 PM PST by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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