Full text: Muslim groups' letter

BBC ^ | 8/12/06

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British Muslim groups have written to the prime minister calling for "urgent" changes to UK foreign policy. In an open letter they say British policy is putting civilians at increased risk in the UK and abroad. This is the text.

Prime Minister, As British Muslims we urge you to do more to fight against all those who target civilians with violence, whenever and wherever that happens.

It is our view that current British government policy risks putting civilians at increased risk both in the UK and abroad.

To combat terror the government has focused extensively on domestic legislation. While some of this will have an impact, the government must not ignore the role of its foreign policy.

The debacle of Iraq and now the failure to do more to secure an immediate end to the attacks on civilians in the Middle East not only increases the risk to ordinary people in that region, it is also ammunition to extremists who threaten us all.

Attacking civilians is never justified. This message is a global one. We urge the Prime Minister to redouble his efforts to tackle terror and extremism and change our foreign policy to show the world that we value the lives of civilians wherever they live and whatever their religion.

Such a move would make us all safer.

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It calls the Iraqi war a "debacle" and says that the failure to end attacks on civilians in the Middle East, such as the current fighting in Lebanon, is making our country a threat to extremists.

It has been signed by MPs Sadiq Khan, Shahid Malik and Mohammed Sarwar, peers Lord Patel of Blackburn, Lord Ahmen of Rotherham and Baroness Uddin and 38 groups including the Muslim Association of Britain, the British Muslim Forum, the Muslim Council of Britain and the Muslim Parliament of Great Britain.

Lord Ahmed, appearing on BBC Radio 4's Today programme in support of the letter, said that the letter is intended to unite civilians in Britain and abroad against these attacks.

"But what we are asking is that the government's recent action in terms of Lebanon are seen to be double standards: that we care for some civilians in this part of the world but that we don't care for the civilians elsewhere," he added.

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2309167,00.html

[thoughtomator]

Sounds like a threat to me.

[Emmett McCarthy]

Dear muslims,
Screw you.
Best wishes,
The civilized world

[Mount Athos]

Always important to pay attention to the 5th column that may one day run the country.

[IronJack]

British policy is putting civilians at increased risk in the UK

British policy. British policy???? What about Muslim policy? You know, like the policy of blowing up airplanes at every opportunity!

[hinckley buzzard]

Lord Ahmed, appearing on BBC Radio 4's Today programme in support of the letter, said that the letter is intended to unite civilians in Britain and abroad against these attacks

Typical attempt to intimidate a tentative government with veiled threats and pressure, timed deliberately as a followup to the recently unveiled terror plot. The savage animals never change. But why should they when their tactics, however primitive and transparent, continue to meet with degrees of success.

[Theresawithanh]

Thank you for posting this, I was trying to find it when I heard about it.

Gagging and choking too much to comment.

[SupplySider]

.."As British Muslims we urge you to do more to fight against all those who target civilians with violence, whenever and wherever that happens. "

So they are asking the British government to join Israel in destroying Hezbollah. I agree 100%.

[JohnnyZ]

Translation: any support for Israel will be met with more than our usual level of terror attacks.

[Sentis]

How did this Achmed joker get a title? How is he a Lord?

What the hell are the British thinking?

[doug from upland]

Maybe Great Britain would be safer if all its Muslims were sent to their new home country -- France.

[observer5]

Muslim Double-Speak

we value the lives of civilians...
sure. you barbarians don't even "value" your Muslim brother's lives.

Shameless scum!

[sinbad17]

I think they have a point. I believe the PM should make all the signatures a committee and send them to Lebanon to meet with the Hezbollah terrorists and insist they stop killing helpless Jewish civilians.

[Andy from Beaverton]

The best hope for the UK is to submit now to Sharia!

[thoughtomator]

How did this Achmed joker get a title? How is he a Lord?

Because he comes from a long line of royal a-holes.

[TexanToTheCore]

This letter is clearly a threat.

[ROTB]

From these two letters, we see that rape and mass murder have been attached to Islam since the 600s AD.

Never let anyone fool you with the whole "Islam is retaliating for the Crusaders and Iraq/Afghanistan" lie. The sword and death have been taken to the world in the name of Allah since the beginning.

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Copy of communications between Sassanian Shahnshah Yazdgird III (632 AD - 651 AD) and Omar Ibn Al Khatab Khalifat Al Muslemin, after the battle of Ghadesiyeh that brought Arab rule over Iran to present time. The original copy of this letter from Yazdgird III (632 AD - 651 AD)is kept in the museum of London and hopefully one day we can buy it back from the British who took it from us! In point of fact it is our patriotic duty to possess this valuable asset.

The date in which this letter has been written is after the battle of Ghadesiyeh. As many of you may know a natural disaster in the form of a massive sand storm was blown upon the front line of Iranian troops and so took away their battle vision thus causing the loss of this battle. Later on Muslim Khalif mentioned that Allah sent the massive Sand Storm in Iranian Faces which was why they lost the battle. Allah was the protector of Muslim against Ajams (what Arabs call Iranians which means retarded). The battle of Ghadesiyeh did not just cost us a great loss due to a natural disaster, yet it also cost us the life of our greatest Iranian hero the Commanderin Chief of Iranian Army, General Arteshbod "Rostam-e Farokhzad." Arabskilled Rostam in this battle. Rostam and his squad fought until the last drop of their blood and at the end even after he lost his sword, he foughtthe Arabs with bare hands and his shield. May Pak Dadar Ahuramazda Blessthe ravaan of Rostam who was the symbol of Persian Empire and Iranian Glory.

From: Omar Ibn Al Khatab Khalifat Al Muslemin
To: Yazdgird III Shahanshah of Persian Empire Yazdgird,

I see not a fruitful future for you and your nation unless you accept my offer and commit Bei'at (Joining with Khalifat and bringingIslam). Once upon a time your land ruled half the known world but what has it come down to now? Your troops are defeated in all fronts and your nation is bound to collapse. I offer you a way to rescue yourself. Start praying toa mono God, a single union God, the only God who created everything in the universe.We bring you and the world his message, he who is the true God. Stop your FireWorship, command your nation to stop their Fire
Worship which is false;join us by joining the truth. Worship Allah O Akbar the only true God, The creator of universe. Worship to Allah and accept Islam as your salvation. End yourPagan ways and your false worships now and bring Islam so you can accept Allah O Akbaras your savior. By doing so, you will find the only way to
>>your survival and peace forPersians. If you know what is best for Ajam (Arabic term for Persians meaning Retarded & Weird), you will choose this path. Bei'at is the only way.

Allah O Akbarsign,
Khalifat Al MusleminOmar Ibn Al Khatab

And here is Yazdgird III, most famous response to Omar: From: Shah of Shahs, Shah of Persia and Beyond, Shah of many Kingdoms, Shah of Aryans and Non Aryans, Shah of Persians and many other races as well as Arabs, Shahanshah of Persian Empire, Yazdgird III Sassanid
To: Omar Ibn Al Khatab, Khalifat of Tazi (Persian term for Arabs)
In the name of Ahura Mazda, creator of Life and Intelligence you in your letter wrote that you want to direct us towards your God, Allah O Akbar, without having the true knowledge of who we are and what do we worship! It is amazing that you occupy the position of Khalifat (Ruler) of Arabs, yet your knowledge is the same as a lowly Arab rambler, roaming in deserts of Arabia and same as a desert tribal man!"Little Man" (mardak) you offer me to worship a united and single God without knowing that it has been thousands of years that Persians worship the mono God and they pray to him Five Times a day! In this land of culture and art this has been the normal path of life for years.
When we established the tradition of hospitality and good deeds in the world and we waved the flag of "Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds" in our hands, you and your ancestors were roaming the deserts, eating Lizards for you had nothing else to feed yourselves and burying your innocent daughters alive (an old Arab tradition because they preferred male children to female)!Tazi people have no value for God's creatures! You behead God's children, even the POWs (Prisoners of War), Rape Women, bury your daughters alive, attack the caravans, mass murder, kidnap people's wives and steal their property! Your hearts are made of stone, we condemn all these Evil which you do. How can you teach us Godly Ways when you commit these action? You tell me to stop my Fire Worship! Us, Persians see the Love of Creator and power of inventor in the light of Sun and warmth of Fire. Lights and Warmth of the Sun and Fire makes us see the light of truth and warms our heartsto the creator and to one another. It helps us to be kind to one another, it enlightens us and makes us to keep Mazda's Flame, alive in our hearts. Our lord is Ahura Mazda and it is strange that you people also, just discovered him and named him Allah O Akbar! But we are not the same as you, we are not in the same level as you. We help other human being, we spread love among humanity, we spread Good throughout the Earth, we have been spreading our culture but in respect for other cultures throughout the whole world for thousands of years, yet you in the name of Allah invade other men's land! You mass murder the people, create famine, fear and poverty for others, you create Evil in the name of Allah. Who is responsible for all this catastrophe? Is it Allah who commands you to murder, pillage and to destroy? Is it you the followers of it , the Allah who you do this in his name? Or Is it both? You have risen from
heat of the deserts and burnt out infertile lands with no resources, you want to teach people the love of God by your military campaigns and the power of your Swords! You are Desert Savages, yet you want to teach Urban people like us who lived in the cities for thousands of years, the love of God! We have thousands of years of culture behind us, a powerful tool indeed!Tell us? With all your military campaigns, barbarianism, murder and pillage in the name of Allah O Akbar, what have you taught to this Muslim Army? What knowledge have you taught the Muslim that you also insist on teaching it to non Muslim? What culture have you learned from our Allah, now that you want to force-teach it to others? Alas, Oh Alas...... that todayour Persian Armies of Ahura have been defeated from your recently Allah Worshiping Armies; Now, our people have to worship the same God, the same Five times a day, but forced by the sword to call him Allah and pray to him in Arabic because your Allah only understands Arabic! I suggest, you and your gang of bandits pack up and move back to your deserts where they areused to live.Take them back where they used to the burning heat of the sun, tribal life,eating Lizards and drinking Camel Milk. I forbid you to let your band of thieves loose in our fertile lands, civilized cities and our glorious nation. Don't turn these "beasts with hearts of stone" loose, to mass murder our people, kidnap our women and children, rape our wives and send our daughters to Mecca as slaves! Don't let them do these crimes in the name of Allah O Akbar, put a stop to your criminal behavior. Aryans are forgiving, warm, hospitable, and decent people and everywhere they went, they have spread seeds of friendship, love, knowledgeand truth; therefore, they shall not punish you and your people for your pirate ways and criminal acts. I beg you to remain with your Allah O Akbar in your deserts and do not move close to our civilized cities, for your believes are "Much Fearful" and your behavior is "Most Barbaric"!

sign,
Yazdgird III Sassanid

[sneakers]

How did this Achmed joker get a title? How is he a Lord?

"Because he comes from a long line of royal a-holes."

HAHAHA!!!

[kcvl]

"Dear muslims,
Screw you.
Best wishes,
The civilized world"



And take their sick
convoluted thinking
with them to hell.

Leave the rest of us
who want to live our
lives in peace alone!

[MNJohnnie]

Expell the scum. That is a naked threat. Let them go back to their camel dung covered hell holes then.