Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Bureaucracy Impedes Bomb-Detection Work (MORE DHLS [IN]COMPETENCE & Indifference?)
AP/Comcast ^ | August 12, 2006 | John Solomon

Posted on 08/12/2006 5:13:39 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist

JOHN SOLOMON As the British terror plot was unfolding, the Bush administration quietly tried to take away $6 million that was supposed to be spent this year developing new explosives detection technology.

Homeland Security's research arm, called the Sciences & Technology Directorate, is a "rudderless ship without a clear way to get back on course," Republican and Democratic senators on the Appropriations Committee declared recently. The administration also was slow to start testing a new liquid explosives detector that the Japanese government provided to the United States earlier this year.

The department failed to spend $200 million in research and development money from past years, forcing lawmakers to rescind the money this summer.

(Excerpt) Read more at comcast.net ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: administration; bureaucracy; dailywhine; deanicpropagandist; dhs; homeland; hysteria; incompetence; politics; security; terror
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-31 next last
”Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result." -- Albert Einstein

Is there no limit to stupidity and incompetence of the primary agency charged with our protection and security?

"Homeland Security is spending a total of $732 million this year on various explosives deterrents. It has tested several commercial liquid explosive detectors over the past few years but hasn't been satisfied enough with the results to deploy them.

For MORE THAN FOUR YEARS, officials inside Homeland Security also have debated whether to deploy smaller trace explosive detectors _ already in most American airports _ to foreign airports to help stop any bomb chemicals or devices from making it onto U.S.-destined flights. (Emphasis added)

"A 2002 Homeland Security report recommended "immediate deployment" of the trace units to key European airports, highlighting their low cost, $40,000 per unit, and their detection capabilities. The report said one such unit was able, 25 days later, to detect explosives residue inside the airplane where convicted shoe bomber Richard Reid was foiled in December 2001.

Tony Fainberg, who formerly oversaw Homeland Security's explosive and radiation detection research with the national labs, said he strongly urged deployment of the detectors overseas but was rebuffed."

"It is not that expensive," said Fainberg, who recently retired. "There was no resistance from any country that I was aware of, and yet we didn't deploy it."

WHERE IS PRESIDENT BUSH AND WHY IS HIS LEADERSHIP LEFT WANTING?

Actions speak louder than words.

That F'n, bumbling, PC, idiot, (Chertoff) is W's "boy-wonder" and that old saying "The Buck Stops Here," needs to be applied and someone needs to shake that agency up from top to bottom. IMHO.

While I'm skeptical of anything that comes from the Apropriated Press, I am bewildered and very interested in the justification for the following, if accurate:

"The administration's most recent budget request also mystified lawmakers. It asked to take $6 million from the Sciences & Technology Directorate's 2006 budget that was supposed to be used to develop explosives detection technology and divert it to cover a budget shortfall in the Federal Protective Service, which provides security around government buildings.

1 posted on 08/12/2006 5:13:41 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: seasoned traditionalist
Why do some people's brains fly out the window when it comes to terrorism?

If this were any other issue we'd be saying unspent money merely means specific projects didn't need it, and that it's GOOD that they weren't just tossing money around on useless stuff and instead were waiting until the funds were needed specifically.

But some folks take AP stories at face-value and help the MSM with their "Bush isn't doing enough against terrorism" propaganda.

”Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result." -- Albert Einstein

Indeed. Like believing AP stories and their obvious political slant over, and over.

2 posted on 08/12/2006 5:20:34 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: seasoned traditionalist
Search is your friend. Duplicate post of a complete worthless hysteric hit piece. So YOU believe the pork barrel politicians KNOW better then the professionals who actually spend their lives working with the technology and security issues?

Funny how the LOUDEST of squealers about Federal Spending mindlessly regurgitates the propaganda put out by pork barreling politicians who are lobbying for big fat Fed Government Checks to be sent to their home town fat cat corporate lobby groups to do this "Research".

But then for the Freeper DNC Virtual Campaigners posturing as "Betrayed Conservatives" it not about FACT, it about finding the latest thing to scream their hate and bile at the Bush Administration over.

3 posted on 08/12/2006 5:22:41 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: seasoned traditionalist

Remember, you cannot just kill an agency in Washington. You must starve it to death through the budget.

They are taking the money away from an incompetent research group and putting it elsewhere so they can create a new research group in the future.

Remember, liquid component detection is not possible if they are placed inside a sealed container with no external contamination...there is nothing to detect by automated means.

Hand searches of people and baggage will become necessary.

The method to sneak explosive components onto a plane right now is known....even with today's hightened security.....by normal boarding. I won't get into the method details, but those bombs can still go off any moment.


4 posted on 08/12/2006 5:22:54 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: seasoned traditionalist
he British plot to blow up as many as 10 American airlines on trans-Atlantic flights would have involved liquid explosives.

Translation: "We here at AP have found a way to blame Bush for the UK plot."

Hawley said Homeland Security is now going to test the detector in six American airports. "It is very promising technology, and we are extremely interested in it to help us operationally in the next several years," he said. Japan has been using the liquid explosive detectors in its Narita International Airport in Tokyo and demonstrated the technology to U.S. officials at a conference in January, the Japanese Embassy in Washington said. Homeland Security is spending a total of $732 million this year on various explosives deterrents. It has tested several commercial liquid explosive detectors over the past few years but hasn't been satisfied enough with the results to deploy them.

Please explain what exactly in that shows anything like the claims made by you or the opening of the article.

5 posted on 08/12/2006 5:22:59 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Erik Latranyi

Great post. I think too many people think "Why isn't there some expensive machine taking care of this?" and that's as far as their thinking on this goes.


6 posted on 08/12/2006 5:26:58 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: seasoned traditionalist
It has tested several commercial liquid explosive detectors over the past few years but hasn't been satisfied enough with the results to deploy them.

Perhaps in the future instead of just regurgitating your mindless bigotry and hate for President Bush you MIGHT actually try READING the story. Notice the line above? Be incredibly stupid to waste billions setting up substandard detectors at every US Airport. In case you missed it, We have quite a few more Airports then either Great Britain or Japan and would be making a much much greater capital investment.

7 posted on 08/12/2006 5:28:40 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Darkwolf377

Hi Darkwolf...

Are we uncovering someone here? Am I possibly IBTZ?


8 posted on 08/12/2006 5:30:03 AM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" – Anonymous)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: seasoned traditionalist
Don't you understand yet? Nothing is President Bush and the Republicans' fault.
9 posted on 08/12/2006 5:32:09 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bcsco
I didn't even check the date of registration until you just mentioned it.

Hmmmm.... Your zot detector is working better than mine.

Notice how the article is a total hit-piece intending to portray one thing, while deep in the piece it reveals just the opposite--that the DHS is indeed testing the equipment, though the article focuses on the funding not being used.

One guaranteed way to tell a liberal is when they post articles crying that not enough hundreds of millions are being spent, NOT whether or not the program works fine without those millions.

10 posted on 08/12/2006 5:35:13 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: worst-case scenario
Don't you understand yet? Nothing is President Bush and the Republicans' fault.

So which part of the story is President Bush and the Republicans fault--the part where they're not putting shoody equipment on the front lines and are waiting till they find something that works?

Would you rather they toss money down the drain with equipment that is of no use, but at least LOOKS cool in the airport terminal?

11 posted on 08/12/2006 5:37:08 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Darkwolf377; MNJohnnie

This story has an unmistakable odor to it. It was MNJohnnie's comments right after yours that made me look at the poster's registration.

Who knows. The poster may be legit. Uh, huh.


12 posted on 08/12/2006 5:53:40 AM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" – Anonymous)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie
"Perhaps in the future instead of just regurgitating your mindless bigotry and hate for President Bush you MIGHT actually try READING the story. Notice the line above?

Well, buddy boy, perhaps if you and others who are quick to trash me were not midless, robotic W-apologists and supporters, regardless of what policies he advocates and advances (SUCH AS THE ILLEGAL SHAMNESTY PROGRAM--WHICH YOU NO DOUBT SUPPORT?)and the amazing stupidty and idiotic policies of the DHLS (WHICH YOU ALSO PROBABLY SLAVISHLY ADHERE TO?)then perhaps you would not be so adverse and keep a little more open mind about someone even "questioning" what is important for our security and defense?

Since when, is is "verbotten" mein heir, to criticize our illustrious leader or his cabinet appointments?

Perhaps, in addition to being satisfied with Chertoff and his moronic policies within DHLS, you are no doubt thrilled with W's pick of Mueller to head the FBI?

The very same Mueller whose agents were "required" to attend "Muslim Sensitivity Training Classes" taught by CAIR?

When it comes that I, or anyone else cannot question or criticize President Bush (WHO, BY THE WAY I VOTED FOR TWICE, A*HOLE) or any other Gov't Agency, then its time I join the muzzies who are trying to destroy us and take away our rights to criticize ANYTHING OR ANYONE.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WILL GLADLY MATCH MY 63 YEARS' RECORD OF "CONSERVATIVISM" AND PATRIOTISM--INCLUDING 8 YEARS USAF AND 18 MONTHS IN NAM--AGAINST YOURS, MY FRIEND, OR ANYONE ELSE WHO POSTS HEREIN

13 posted on 08/12/2006 6:16:44 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist (ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS, BUT ALL TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY, ARE MUSLIMS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: seasoned traditionalist

I see don't bother you with the facts on this, you would rather cling to your ignorace and knee jerk hate then have to confront the uncomforatable truth.


14 posted on 08/12/2006 6:18:26 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MNJohnnie
I see don't bother you with the facts on this, you would rather cling to your ignorace and knee jerk hate then have to confront the uncomforatable truth.

What "facts" are those?

Facts and "truths" according to those as seen thru rose-colored glasses according to MNJohnnie?

If that is so, please enlighten me on the errors of my way when questioning the efficacy of DHLS and why not admit or deny, whether or not you support W's Illegal Alien Shamnesty Program?

I'll be more than happy (as it seems you've completely failed to notice; deliberately ignored or are willingly excusing the bumbling, bureaucratic ineptitude of DHLS) to give you dozens of examples of how the actions (or inactions)of the DHLS has endangered our security and safety and as it is W who appointed Chertoff, I am well within my rights to criticize W, Chertoff and the Dept of Homeland [In]Security.

In fact, I would not doubt if you are one of those "My country (and W) right or wrong," slavish, automaton.

15 posted on 08/12/2006 6:49:31 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist (ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS, BUT ALL TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY, ARE MUSLIMS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: seasoned traditionalist

Yes, you're very "Seasoned" ....... since Jun 2006..... right.


16 posted on 08/12/2006 6:50:03 AM PDT by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! NOW.... PLEASE STAY THE COURSE!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: seasoned traditionalist

Where you been hiding?


17 posted on 08/12/2006 6:52:58 AM PDT by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! NOW.... PLEASE STAY THE COURSE!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: W04Man
Yes, you're very "Seasoned" ....... since Jun 2006..... right.

Sorry. Guess you have an extremely, narrow, one-track mind as it only relates to FreeRepublic?

"Seasoned" has more than one meaning and it does NOT necessarily apply to how long someone has been posting--which I must apologize profusely, for not qualifying by having been around, how ever long it takes to have one's opinions or postings accepted.

For your information, I am 63 and after listening to Rush for 18 years, I picked up on his calling Senior Citizens, "Seasoned Citizens," and I as I like the latter much more than the former and as I am a Conservative, that is how I came about to have picked my name.

Any other questions MS?

18 posted on 08/12/2006 7:04:24 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist (ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS, BUT ALL TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY, ARE MUSLIMS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: W04Man
Where you been hiding?

I've been hiding from the likes of MSJohnnie and others who are quick to criticize and yet, short on advancing accounts of valid and fallacious inferences which would allow one to distinguish logical, from flawed arguments.

There is simply no way I can compete, much less, his challenge his intellectual superiority and capacity. After all, I only got a B in Logic and I would imagine he wrote the book.

19 posted on 08/12/2006 7:13:29 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist (ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS, BUT ALL TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY, ARE MUSLIMS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: seasoned traditionalist

When we create a massive new bureaucracy to pacify a panel of scam artists, what do you expect?


20 posted on 08/12/2006 7:15:41 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-31 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson