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Lawmakers' National Guard bill gets vetoed
Sierra Vista Herald, Sierra Vista Arizona (Capital Media Services) ^ | Howard Fischer

Posted on 03/10/2006 6:29:15 PM PST by SandRat

PHOENIX — There won’t be any National Guard troops in Southern Arizona — at least not yet.

As vowed, Gov. Janet Napolitano vetoed a $10 million appropriation for the Guard because it ordered her to put the troops on the border.

In a five-paragraph letter to legislators, Napolitano cited a state constitutional provision that makes her commander-in-chief of the Guard.

“The Legislature has no constitutional or other authority to control when or how the Guard is deployed,” she said.

But Napolitano insisted she remains interested in putting troops in Southern Arizona and promised that if lawmakers send her a bill with the funds — but without the mandate — she would sign it and begin deployment.

That option may already be in progress: On Thursday the House gave preliminary approval to another bill to appropriate funds to deploy Guard troops in Southern Arizona for “border security functions.” But that measure, HB 2579, has none of the language the governor found offensive.

And Napolitano already has signed an executive order posting troops in Southern Arizona, conditional on getting some cash.

But the governor’s promise held no water for Rep. John Allen, R-Scottsdale, sponsor of the vetoed bill. He wants colleagues to resend his measure to Napolitano, insisting that’s the only way to guarantee deployment.

“I don’t think she has any real expectation of doing it,” he said.

Asked if she was calling her a liar, Allen responded, “There is a difference between what she says and what she does.”

That’s also the assessment of Rep. Jonathan Paton, R-Tucson. “We have seen that this governor does not follow her promises with any actions that are credible.”

Paton acknowledged that the governor, by signing an emergency declaration last year, put some money into the hands of Southern Arizona law enforcement agencies to battle the effects of illegal immigration, including overtime for police officers and increased jail costs. But he dismissed that as meaningless because it does not deal with the underlying problem.

“Not one person has stopped coming over the border because of her efforts,” he said.

“What matters to ranchers in my district is whether people are going to be walking on their ranches ... whether people are going to be dying on their ranches,” Paton said. “That hasn’t stopped.”

While the latest funding plan for the Guard apparently complies with what the governor wants, it does not have support from some legislative Democrats.

Rep. Pete Rios, D-Dudleyville, feared what would happen to industries like tourism if posting Guard units along the border actually cut the number of illegal immigrants.

“Who cuts the greens on those fairways at those resorts where those visitors stay,” he asked. “Who cleans those rooms? Who builds those buildings?”

Aside from adopting the alternative funding plan for the Guard, the House gave preliminary approval Thursday for a measure designed to ensure that Arizona companies only hire people who are in this country legally. It includes penalties for knowingly hiring undocumented workers and requirements for agencies to audit some of the firms they license to ensure compliance with federal and state labor laws.

HCR 2044 is identical to HB 2577 that gained final House approval Thursday on a 35-20 margin. But there is one key difference: HCR 2044 would put the issue on the November ballot, a fallback position in case the governor vetoes the other one.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; bill; gets; guard; illegal; lawmakers; national; vetoed

1 posted on 03/10/2006 6:29:16 PM PST by SandRat
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; idratherbepainting; AZHSer; Sabertooth; Marine Inspector; A Navy Vet; ...

Words befitting of a Gentleman speaking in reference to a Lady and Elected personage absolutely escape me.


2 posted on 03/10/2006 6:31:48 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
But Napolitano insisted she remains interested in putting troops in Southern Arizona and promised that if lawmakers send her a bill with the funds — but without the mandate — she would sign it and begin deployment

Napolitano is a stinking liar.

L

3 posted on 03/10/2006 6:37:08 PM PST by Lurker (Cuz I got one hand in my pocket and the other one is slapping a hippy.)
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To: Lurker

...seems she wants it both ways.


5 posted on 03/10/2006 6:51:05 PM PST by Banjoguy (I refuse to 'Google' anything at anytime.)
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To: Uhhuh35

"..."Jumbo Jack" instead of a "YUMBO YACK"!!!!"

Ha Ha Ha Ha ..... ROTFLMAO That is soooooooo true


6 posted on 03/10/2006 6:51:30 PM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! MaDuce = M2HB machine gun!)
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To: SandRat
“Who cuts the greens on those fairways at those resorts where those visitors stay,” he asked. “Who cleans those rooms? Who builds those buildings?”

My first job was riding a bicycle in downtown Birmingham for Western Union - my second was cutting grass for Alabama Power. During the Carter malaise, I picked up garbage in a stake bed dump truck - no hydraulic clamp, lift, dump and compact. My helper and I got out of the truck, lifted the cans over the stake walls, and periodically stomped down the garbage with our boots. We were glad to have a job, period.

Spare me the "doing the jobs" song and dance, Pete.

7 posted on 03/10/2006 6:53:00 PM PST by auboy
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To: SandRat
This is purely a turf war. Both the legislative branch and the executive branch in AZ want more troops on the boarder. The governor just doesn't want the legislature micromanaging her. In this state the Governor has more gonads than most of the other elective officers.
8 posted on 03/10/2006 7:00:38 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Lurker
Of course she is a liar, she is a politician. But in this case, I tend to believe her (mainly because it is one of her pet projects this year).
9 posted on 03/10/2006 7:02:59 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44

I beg to differ...the Governor wants to deploy troops to the points of entry. The legislature wants her to deploy those troops to the unguarded border. The Governor is only after the money.


10 posted on 03/10/2006 7:03:32 PM PST by cabojoe
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To: cabojoe

She is the commander in chief. Not the legislator. Where the troops go is up to the CiC. If the legislator doesn't like it, they don't have to fund the activity. This battle is as old as the USA.


11 posted on 03/10/2006 7:08:31 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: bnelson44

It takes no gonads to place troops at points of entry. Her state of emergency is and has always been a farce. Your latter point is well taken, and I would hope that the legislature would withdraw funding then.


12 posted on 03/10/2006 7:16:23 PM PST by cabojoe
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To: cabojoe

They can also over ride her veto, if they have the votes.

IMHO, it doesn't take any gonads to place the Guard anywhere on the boarder. But if it is to be a face-off between the legislature and the governor, I know who will win. The same person who has won all the other face offs. ;)


13 posted on 03/10/2006 7:20:59 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: cabojoe
The bottom line of it all is this: Napolitano is suggesting to provide funding to put 100 additional National Guardmen on the Border. That number is NEVER discussed, just 'I'm putting the National Guard on the Border'. 100 additional Guardsmen is NOTHING. It's a joke, it's just politics. The Pubbies responded by putting an amendment that would essentially make it a Constitutional battle, that the Governor would not sign. Essentially, they're both playing politics, and they should all be castigated. It's just another example of lack of leadership from our elected representatives. Pathetic.
14 posted on 03/10/2006 7:57:35 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: SandRat; Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; justche; Pepper777; WestCoastGal

Thanks for the background, I did not know all the facts.

Have the Minutemen been sent this one?


15 posted on 03/12/2006 1:58:22 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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