AMERICA AT WAR
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Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links... by backhoe
Mohammed, The Mad Poet Quoted.... by PsyOp
The Clash of Ideologies - A Review
Posted on 01/14/2006 10:03:48 AM PST by billorites
Now there's a thought - just think of all the nasty that will be concentrated in that place. Then think about the glories of the global positioning system...
Well ya gotta admit, in his case, that's true.
This 'Hidden Messenger' could be the one that Christians are also waiting for, the 'AntiChrist'.
Certainly makes one wonder.
This guy is not Gorby. When the people rose up against Chinese communism, they got crushed by tanks. When the people rose up against Saddam, like we asked them to, they got crushed by tanks. Tyrants don't rule because nobody challenges them. They rule because nobody takes away their physical means of slaughtering those who challenge them.
Europe has to jump on the bandwagon and take care of Iran in what ever way works. Europe has to stop depending on the USA to contantly pull their irons out of the fire. Europe had better stop talking and start making plans. We would of course back them up.
Geeze, maybe Europe is attempting to emulate Nero with all the fiddling that is going on.
That's the answer to Iran - encourage and support revolution from within. Let Europe worry about nukes - they're within range. If Paris gets hit - we'll have plenty of time and opportunity to retaliate.
That's right. This is Europe's problem. If they don't mind being hit with a few nukes - that's not our business. Once they have been hit - then it is our business and we can help them neutralize Iran. But for now, Europe is in the line of fire - we are not. And this is not worth starting a world over.
I think President Bush understood that it was already too late to stop this and the only hope was to allow the europeans to come to the same conclusion on their own. The only way to do that was to allow them to try their "peaceful means". I think it was always going to end the same way, it was just a question of if we had to do it alone or if the west would finally understand that their entire way of life was being threatened.
There's nothing to back up. Europe doesn't have the capability to take out Iran's nukes, even if they have the will. in fact, I don't think Israel has the capability. I think only the US can do it at this point.
I think its' time to give them what they are asking for: Darken the sky, huge earthquakes...
The Signs of the Reappearance (Qiyam) of the (Imam) who
undertakes the Office (al-Qa'im), Peace be on him, the
Period of Time of his Appearance, an Explanation of his
Life and an Extract of what is revealed about his State.
' Traditions have been reported mentioning the signs for the time of
the appearance of the Imam who will arise (qa'im), peace be on him,
and the events which will take place before his appearance, together
with the indications and features of it. Among them are: The Sufyani
will come out in revolt; the Hasanid will be killed; the Abbasids will
dispute over worldly kingdom; there will be an eclipse of the sun in
the middle of the month of Ramadan; there will be an eclipse of the
moon at the end of that month in contrast to ordinary happenings;
the land will be swallowed up at al-Bayda'; it will be swallowed in the
east-it will be swallowed up in the west; the sun will stay still from the
time of its decline to the middle of the time for the afternoon prayer; it
will rise from the west; a pure soul (nafs zakiyya)
will be killed in the
outskirts of Kufa with seventy righteous men; a Hashimite will be
slaughtered between the corner (of the Ka'ba) and the station of
Abraham); the wall of the mosque of Kufa will be destroyed; black
standards will advance from Khurasan; al-Yamani will come out in
revolt; al-Maghribi will appear in Egypt and take
possession of it
from Syria; the Turk will occupy the region of al-Jazira; the
Byzantines will occupy Ramla; the star will appear in the east giving
light just like the moon gives light; then (the new moon) will bend
until its two tips almost meet; a colour will appear in the sky and
spread to its horizons; a fire will appear for a long
time in the east
remaining in the air for three or seven days; the Arabs will throw off
the reins and take possession of their land, throwing out the foreign
authority; the people of Egypt will kill their ruler and destroy Syria;
and three standards will dispute over it (Syria); the standards of Qays
and the Arabs will come among the people of Egypt; the
standards of
Kinda (will go) to Khurasan; horses will come from the west until
they are stabled in al-Hira; the black standards will advance towards
them from the east; the Euphrates will flood so that the water comes
into the alleys of Kufa; sixty liars will come forward, all of them
claiming prophethood, and twelve will come forward from the family
of Abu Talib, all of them claiming the Imamate; a man
of important
rank of the supporters of the 'Abbasids will be burnt between Jalula'
and Khaniqin; the bridge next to Karkh in the city of Baghdad will be
established; a black wind will raise it at the beginning of the day and
then an earthquake will occur so that much of it will be swallowed up;
fear will cover the people of Iraq and Baghdad; swift
death (will
occur) there and there will be a loss of property, lives and harvests;
locusts will appear at their usual times and at times not usual so that
they attack agricultural land and crops and there will be little harvest
for what the people planted; two kinds of foreigners will dispute and
much blood will be shed in their quarrel; slaves will rebel against
obedience to their masters and kill their masters
(mawali); a group of
heretics (ahl al-bida) will be transformed until they become monkeys
and pigs; slaves will conquer the land of their masters; a cry (will
come) from the sky (in such a way) that all the people will hear it in
their own languages; a face and a chest will appear in the sky before
the people in the centre of the sun; the dead will arise from their
graves so that they will return to the world and they
will recognize one
another and visit one another; that will come to an end with twenty-
four continous rainstorms and the land will be revived by them after
being dead and it will recognize its blessings; after that every disease
will be taken away from those of the Shia of the Mahdi, peace be on
him, who believe in the truth; at that time they will know of his
appearance in Mecca and they will go to him to support him.
(These signs) are as the reports have mentioned. Among the total of
these events are some which are bound (to happen) and other which
are conditional. God knows best what will take place. We have only
mentioned them on the basis of what is recounted in basic sources of
tradition (usul) because of their inclusion in traditions which have
been handed down. From God we seek help and Him do we ask for
success...' etc etc etc...
http://al-islam.org/masoom/bios/12thimam.html
The the US Marine Corps rolled right over him. 
"The the US Marine Corps rolled right over him."
If I recall correctly, wasn't there a cellar full of dead bodies discovered beneath his 'office' ?
Hopefully, islam will continue as it always has - killing more of their own kind, than ours.
<< " ...... the supposedly intransigent George Bush has actually been so accommodating to European sensibilities that he has delegated the policy on Iran to Europe. This has produced the current disaster ..... " >>
Just as, during the months long breathing spell and strategizing time out it afforded Saddam's Iraq, he earlier accomodated the infantile UN-oriented whims of Tiny 'Yapping' Blair and Straw et al and of life-long Peter-Principle-Poster-Person and Republican Party and Bush Family blind-spot-occupant Colin Powell.
And created the current Iraqi killing fields.
Black please. No sugar. I am already sweet.
Blessings and Good luck - B A
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