Was created in just half the time...
Posted on 01/11/2006 5:40:38 PM PST by wagglebee
Junior scientist Park Eul-soon suffered the most personally devastating blunder of her career when in 2003 she accidentally spilled a dish of human eggs while conducting experiments in the South Korean lab of then-clone king Hwang Woo-suk.
For that mishap, Hwang coerced Park, a subordinate Ph.D. student in her mid-20s, to replace the lost eggs with her own. After first saying no, Park relented for fear Hwang would otherwise exclude her from academic recognition for her work.
Afterward, according to Korean MBC TV, Park morbidly "went back to Hwang's laboratory and conducted the cloning experiment on the eggs that she herself had contributed that morning."
Park wrote in an e-mail to MBC, "I hope I can forgive myself for not being able to stand up to the professor."
The unforgivable one is Hwang. Not only is he now accused of falsifying his cloning feats, thereby "perpetrat[ing] the greatest scientific fraud, not just of 2005, but of the admittedly still young 21st century," according to MSNBC columnist Arthur Caplan, he is also accused of exploiting women on just as grand a scale to obtain eggs for his cloning experiments.
The fear that cloning would exploit women was the major reason the United Nations called for its ban last year. The U.N. was concerned that cloning would create an international market for eggs and egg donors that would exploit disadvantaged women in particular. (The Republic of Korea voted against the declaration.)
Hwang's alleged ethical violations include paying for eggs, lying about the number of eggs used in his experiments and neglecting to provide informed consent to women regarding the potential side effects of egg procurement.
But complicit with Hwang is every cloning and embryonic stem-cell researcher around the world who perched him on the very high pedestal from which he toppled.
Largely silent about the ethical and tangible dilemmas of garnering human eggs for experimentation, the ESCR-cloning community breathed a collective sigh of relief when they thought he had solved their problem.
The journal Science published two papers by Hwang in 2004 and 2005, both as cover stories. The first paper claimed to use "only" 242 eggs to create the first ever cloned embryonic stem-cell line (listing Park as a co-author), and the second paper claimed to use "only" 273 eggs to create 11 patient-specific stem-cell lines.
Investigators now say Hwang actually used between 1,600 and 2,000 eggs from 86 women for those experiments. Some of those women were paid, at least two were allegedly coerced, and "[a]bout 20 percent … experienced side effects from surgical procedures to extract eggs," reported People's Online Daily of an MBC report.
What side effects?
Retrieving human eggs is far more complicated than retrieving human sperm. The process can take months. Even Columbia University's pro-abortion website Go ask Alice admits it is "complicated, and can be frightening, uncomfortable and even painful."
Egg donors are given injections of medications and hormones for two to five weeks to stimulate multiple eggs to mature, accompanied by blood tests to check hormone levels.
When eggs are ready for harvesting, women are put under general anesthesia, and the physician guides a needle into the ovary to remove eggs, one at a time, usually 10 or less. This normally takes up to one hour.
Side effects range from hemorrhaging after surgery to ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome due to the megadoses of hormones injected. OHSS can occur up to two weeks after egg release.
In the latter event, the ovaries enlarge and can burst. Symptoms of OHSS vary from bloating, weight gain and diarrhea to serious complications involving blood clots, fluid retention, chest pain, low blood pressure and inability to urinate.
Long-term consequences of the egg procurement procedure are unknown.
Where are the feminists in all this, the supposed defenders of women's rights?
Always follow the money. Feminists receive their sustenance from abortion, and the potential to extract a profit from the eggs of aborted female fetuses is great. That is why feminists are silent. They are pro-choice all right. They never fail to choose money over the health and safety of women.
The upside of "Hwanggate," as it's now known, is that it, along with the ever-worsening California stem-cell debacle, has helped chill all the embryonic stem-cell and cloning hype. Last week, nervous New Jersey legislators shelved their plan to subsidize that sort of research. Hopefully, that was just the start of restoring sanity on this issue.
Always follow the money. Feminists receive their sustenance from abortion, and the potential to extract a profit from the eggs of aborted female fetuses is great. That is why feminists are silent. They are pro-choice all right. They never fail to choose money over the health and safety of women.
Exactly!
Embryonic stem cell/Cloning ping.
Was created in just half the time...
Moral absolutes ping.
I am helping little jeremiah out with this ping list for a couple days.
Many woman who have had abortions have said and felt the very same thing
This doesn't sound like what the proponents of human cloning are talking about. They are going to produce human beings and parts, no muss, no fuss, supposedly. The whole idea ought to be alarming to conservatives, but very few respond to cloning threads at all. When they finally do figure out that something is going on, it will be far too late to do anything about it.
This fully developed egg sometimes wants to climb back into the womb - or at least relive 1952 for a psychological vacation. :)
let me be slightly crass, to make a point.
There has BEEN a worldwide market for sperm for YEARS.
Does that exploit men?
Just food for thought.
Imagine the nightmares that this woman will have. I simply can't fathom doing medical experiments on tissue that was my own. This Hwang guy should be strung up.
The truth is that there have been none of the promised "breakthroughs" from embryonic stem cell research. There have, however, been incredible results from umbilical cord stem cell and and adult stem cells, but the leftist media won't speak of them. I am 100% convinced that the hype around embryonic stem cell research exists entirely to protect abortion, they don't expect this research to produce any results but the "hope" keeps their agenda going.
Park should have told the professor to go"Hwang" off.
heehee
I know. I hope she gets professional help
Are sperm donations invasive and potentially harmful to a man's health or future reproductive abilities?
Many times I pricked my own finger to get a drop of blood to study various cell types under ths microscope. That never grossed me out, that it was my own tissue. Neither did swabbing cells from inside my mouth and so on.
Why does this revulse you so? (serious question, not a flame)
ping to myself to read later
That is the Liberal agendum, no doubt about it. Now, if they can grow a replacement organ for a person, from his own cells, that is one thing, but the other thing is close to sacrifice, which ought not be done.
Yes, if you're a commie leftist. All compensated work exploits the person doing it. Even if, umm, in the case of the sperm trade, the "work" is, uh, something that we would, y'know, do on our own anyway.
Not sure of the relevance of your points, however accurate they may be.
Dentistry is invasive and potentially harmful, and the teeth removed (as needed) are used to train other dentists.
Your septic appendix was removed invasively, but you were not exploited.
Granted, this woman was coerced, and that act was disgraceful. I just am not yet buying the argument that egg donations are de facto exploitation of women. I am open to being convinced, honest.
You don't have to exploit women if you can collect ovaries from female fetuses. The pro-abortion, pro-do-it-because-you-can crowd is looking into this.
Mrs VS
Side effects range from hemorrhaging after surgery to ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome due to the megadoses of hormones injected. OHSS can occur up to two weeks after egg release.
In the latter event, the ovaries enlarge and can burst. Symptoms of OHSS vary from bloating, weight gain and diarrhea to serious complications involving blood clots, fluid retention, chest pain, low blood pressure and inability to urinate.
Long-term consequences of the egg procurement procedure are unknown
Everything you bring up is valid, but it is also done out of medical necessity (or in the case of dentistry to at least reduce pain).
While I am by no means an authority on harvesting eggs, I also fail to see either the need or the benefit of doing so in this case.
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