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Seeing Crime Guns Destroyed Gives Solace to Victims' Families
NY Times ^ | January 4, 2006 | PAM BELLUCK

Posted on 01/03/2006 11:03:06 PM PST by neverdem

SOUTH PORTLAND, Me. - Kelly DeCambra made her way through a seven-inches-an-hour snowstorm to a dingy Maine State Police garage where, among the brake parts, transmissions and a flat-bed tow truck, she hoped to find a fragment of solace.

It would come in the form of a Ruger .44 Magnum Super Blackhawk revolver, caked with blood and the memory of Ms. DeCambra's son, 21-year-old Lionel St. Hilaire, who was shot to death with it last year.

The mother had come to watch the gun that was used to kill her son be sawed into pieces in an acrid plume of white-hot sparks.

Ms. DeCambra's act of witness was made possible by a law Maine enacted in 2001 that requires handguns used in homicides to be destroyed when they are no longer needed for evidence. Before that, guns were often sold or auctioned by police departments to raise money for other equipment.

Gun control advocates, gun rights supporters, and law enforcement officials say they believe that Maine is the only state where the police allow victims' relatives to watch a gun's destruction, and the acts of witness are arranged informally by the police, not spelled out in the law.

Supporters of the law, including the Maine Chiefs of Police Association, acknowledge that in a state like Maine, which in the last decade averaged about 20 homicides a year, destroying such weapons takes only a few guns out of circulation. But the requirement that crime guns be destroyed reflects a trend among police departments nationwide.

A few states, including New York and Wisconsin, require at least some guns to be destroyed, and others, like Washington, have rescinded bans on destroying guns used in crimes.

Several municipalities have passed ordinances to prevent crime guns from being sold, and the International Association of Chiefs...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Maine; US: New York; US: Virginia; US: Washington; US: Wisconsin
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To: neverdem
that's a long barreled Blackhawk...

typical libs....what if symbolism over substance

21 posted on 01/04/2006 12:17:50 AM PST by wardaddy (If they don't own at least one pick-up, then they need to be watched closely)
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To: neverdem; Joe Brower

Oh brother!


22 posted on 01/04/2006 12:19:27 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: appeal2
I am quite certain that seeing the sob's executed would give more solace and perhaps even some closure.

Well yeah, for the relatives, but what about the press?

23 posted on 01/04/2006 12:28:59 AM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: neverdem
Malleable idiots succumbing to government flackery.
24 posted on 01/04/2006 12:30:47 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: ozzymandus
Wow, is that stupid.

After reading this stupid article, nine of the ten voices in my head are telling me to clean my guns.

25 posted on 01/04/2006 12:32:25 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: neverdem

She said she had been unable to see punishment imposed on her son's killer, Zachary Fenderson, who had found his ex-girlfriend with Mr. St. Hilaire one night, because Mr. Fenderson immediately shot and killed himself.


----Will that gun be "killed" too? I mean, I am sorry her son was killed ( I am not heartless) because I lost a husband and a baby boy to a drunk driver, but seeing the car destoyed that did hit and killed them, would NOT have done a thing but send the wrong message. THE driver/shooter killed them/her son. Not the objects that were used to do it. I have a gun and 2 cars, and I am responsible with all of them.


26 posted on 01/04/2006 12:34:25 AM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: Travis McGee
Oh brother!

Oh brother! Indeed, maybe you can work this aspect of liberal craziness into a chapter. Happy New Year!

27 posted on 01/04/2006 12:36:35 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Hank Rearden
After reading this stupid article, nine of the ten voices in my head are telling me to clean my guns.

I'll bet the tenth one is saying "January tenth, January tenth... "

28 posted on 01/04/2006 12:38:53 AM PST by papertyger (We have done the impossible, and that makes us mighty.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Great shot. Pun intended. I laughed so much that my wife thought I was nuts.


29 posted on 01/04/2006 12:39:19 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: WasDougsLamb
First of all, I'm terribly sorry for your loss.

Secondly, you're exactly right. This kind of thing makes about as much sense as destroying a piece of industrial equipment that someone was injured or killed by.

I wonder if at some point they'll be having a day for people to destroy knives used in stabbings, or baseball bats used in clubbings.

Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter if this sort of thing actually accomplishes anything. As long as it makes people feel good, that's all that matters.

L

30 posted on 01/04/2006 12:43:10 AM PST by Lurker (You don't let a pack of wolves into the house just because they're related to the family dog.)
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To: appeal2

I think it would be fitting if the perp were executed with that same gun he used to kill his victim.

Kharma.

It's a good circular thing:)


31 posted on 01/04/2006 12:44:43 AM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: wardaddy

I have two Rugers. One is a 7-1/2" Blackhawk, the other is a 5-1/2" Bisley Vaquero. Both are .357's No somma beech is going to take them away from me. I won't discuss the serious stuff.


32 posted on 01/04/2006 12:47:06 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: neverdem
Seeing Crime Guns Destroyed Gives Solace to Victims' Families

It's hard to imagine such an irrational story being given any coverage even 20 years ago except to wonder at its lunacy, but now such swill makes it to a "paper of record" as straight news.

I assume that when the neighbors start building airplanes from coconuts and straw that the New York Times will be johnny-on-the-spot to report on their efficacy at producing cargo.

33 posted on 01/04/2006 2:09:19 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: neverdem

Aren't the police breaking the law in that photograph by not having a trigger lock on the firearm? Notice how it was being stored in a plain cardboard box, where a child could have grabbed it?

Well, how's about it New York Times?


34 posted on 01/04/2006 2:10:45 AM PST by dbehsman (NRA Life member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: neverdem
Maybe they should watch the perpetrator get sawn up instead.

Blame the gun, blame the gun, blame the gun.

In addition, if the gun was stolen, the poor slob who owned it will never get it back. What horsesh!t.

35 posted on 01/04/2006 2:13:53 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: neverdem

It would be much better to watch the killer sawn into pieces. One could have a chunk of the carcase, perhaps the hand or trigger finger, gold plated and set it on the mantle.


36 posted on 01/04/2006 2:18:37 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: neverdem
Seeing Crime Guns Destroyed Gives Solace to Victims' Families

So does beating an old pillow with a tennis racket while hopping up and down and shouting at the top of your lungs, but it doesn't bring the victim back and it doesn't neutralize the perp.

So does going to the range and putting several pounds of lead down range into upper body silhouette targets, but it doesn't bring the victim back and it doesn't neutralize the perp.

So does being prepared in the first place so it's the perp, not your loved one, who leaves the scene in a body bag.

37 posted on 01/04/2006 2:21:29 AM PST by HKMk23 (Why do you expect better treatment from this lousy world than Jesus got; are you holier? - Ravenhill)
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To: neverdem
The mental weakness of these confused people is amazing and disturbing. I will never understand how destroying a tool is supposed to make the world safer.

I've seen children get scared of a toy that hurts them, they will avoid that toy no matter what. The way these people act reminds me of that same childish response. Destroy it so it can't hurt me again.

I couldn't care less what the final disposition of these guns is. It doesn't change a single thing. No life is going to be returned by destroying it nor will leaving it intact and selling it bring the dead back, but to act like they are putting down a rabid dog who has savaged a neighborhood is beyond reason, it's madness.
38 posted on 01/04/2006 2:46:16 AM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Whats with the Marquis of Queensbury Rules bullsh*t, we fight for our very survival! Fight Dirty!)
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To: neverdem
Guns that are legal and in good condition were sold off. Any others were destroyed in a number of ways. Here in MN, for example, the Minneapolis PD frequently tosses them in a smelter. Further north in Duluth guns the police want to destroy are taken several hundred yards out onto Lake Superior and dumped overboard.

Works well either way.

39 posted on 01/04/2006 2:46:53 AM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: KingofZion
Why don't liberals support gun vouchers, or maybe gun stamps? Seems like the type of redistribution scheme that they love if it involves food, housing, cash :)

Here in Virginia you have to buy one handgun a month. It's the law

40 posted on 01/04/2006 3:24:51 AM PST by P8riot (When they come for your guns, give them the bullets first.)
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