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Poll: Broad Optimism in Iraq, But Also Deep Divisions Among Groups
ABC News ^ | 12/12/05 | GARY LANGER and JON COHEN

Posted on 12/12/2005 4:15:13 AM PST by HonduGOP

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Very good news coming out of Iraq. Diane Sawyer seemed sad and shocked to report the hopeful news. I wonder what the White Flag Democrats will say now that one of their cherished MSM outlets is reporting good news from Iraq.
1 posted on 12/12/2005 4:15:14 AM PST by HonduGOP
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Surprising levels of optimism prevail in Iraq

"Surprising" only to the Dinosaur Media who have stubbornly tuned out every voice warning them their fixation on the Democrat Talking Points about Iraq was going to turn around and bite their credibility right in the butt. Surprise Surprise "News Media" Iraq turns out to be MORE like we have been telling you and not any where NEAR what your Ideological Puppet Masters at the DNC have been telling you.

2 posted on 12/12/2005 4:19:54 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Now the Democrat leadership claims that accurately quoting them is "attack politics")
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Surprising levels of optimism prevail in Iraq...

Translation: ABC is surprised (and disappointed) their propaganda hasn't been more effective.

3 posted on 12/12/2005 4:20:07 AM PST by libertylover (Abortion is a crime against humanity.)
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Surprising levels of optimism prevail in Iraq with living conditions improved

Of course its a surprise. It goes unreported!!!!!


4 posted on 12/12/2005 4:20:52 AM PST by ConservativeGreek
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To: HonduGOP
The first sentence set the tone

Surprising levels of optimism prevail in Iraq...

Suprising to whom? Journalists that refuse to see any good coming out of Iraq?

5 posted on 12/12/2005 4:21:55 AM PST by NeonKnight
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To: libertylover

Of course, the MSM have to play up the "deep divisions" between the ethnic groups.

The MSM ignores the fact that we have "deep divisions" between the two poltical parties in this country and we function fairly well..


6 posted on 12/12/2005 4:23:34 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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To: HonduGOP

It just had to kill the poor folks at ABC who had to write this story.


7 posted on 12/12/2005 4:25:02 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: NeonKnight

Elizabeth Vargas seemed emotionless reporting about the poll in Iraq and Diane Sawyer's mouth was on the floor. She was genuinely shocked that any good news came out of this poll. She led the GMA News with: "You'll be surprised to hear about what this poll of 1700 Iraqis found..."
There are very good news in the poll although some anxiety in the Sunni areas which is expected since they are the minority and the Shia are convinced that they will run the country. But otherwise, good news that President Bush can use to hammer the Do-Nothing, No-Ideas White Flag Democrats.


8 posted on 12/12/2005 4:25:30 AM PST by HonduGOP
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This "local/national" split is ENTIRELY due to the world/U.S. news media, which hypes attacks and security issues, whereas in their local areas, people just don't see THAT much "terrorism." The media should be ashamed, but, of course, they aren't.


9 posted on 12/12/2005 4:29:20 AM PST by LS
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"Surprising levels of optimism prevail in Iraq with living conditions improved...and expectations for the future high."

Yes, surprising for the so-called "journalists" of the "Mainstream Newsmedia", who for a long time have believed their own propaganda.

If the willingly self-deluded get off with nothing more than suruprise, they're lucky. Such hubris and denial are often far more costly--if you know what I mean.

They're particularly lucky that the American people didn't believe their relentless, unceasing, morally reprehensible propaganda. Had their propaganda been more effective--i.e. had their mendacity been less transparent--the American people could have been dangerously misled.

As it is, the American people have recognized the "Mainstream Newsmedia" as the ignominious Propaganda Machine that it is and have relegated its so-called "journalists" to the level of snake-oil salesmen, con-artists, and other bottom dwellers, somewhere below used car salesmen and ambulance chasing lawyers, where they belong.

10 posted on 12/12/2005 4:34:58 AM PST by Savage Beast (Oprah: (1) Take responsibility for your life and (2) get an education.)
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To: Savage Beast

BACK TO THE TOP!


11 posted on 12/12/2005 4:36:49 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Now the Democrat leadership claims that accurately quoting them is "attack politics")
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If this was an ABC poll the results are even better than they reported?


12 posted on 12/12/2005 4:40:58 AM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud off it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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To: MNJohnnie; dighton; StarCMC; JeanS; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl; ...
What a stunning contrast - Iraqi optimism vs. media surprise/dismay.

Praying for a safe and successful election this week.

13 posted on 12/12/2005 4:48:13 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: HonduGOP

After Iraq turns into a huge success, the MSM can do a 5 minute mea culpa, but then move on to more important "news".


14 posted on 12/12/2005 4:59:59 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: MNJohnnie

You haven't heard the latest?

Well, it is now said that if the President starts to draw down troops after the election, and gradually throughout the year, will mean we LOST, we are SAVING FACE, and the critics were right!

(the MSM and Hollywood are furiously writing this new script)


15 posted on 12/12/2005 5:05:50 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: HonduGOP
There's other evidence of the United States' increasing unpopularity: Two-thirds now oppose the presence of U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq, 14 points higher than in February 2004. Nearly six in 10 disapprove of how the United States has operated in Iraq since the war, and most of them disapprove strongly. And nearly half of Iraqis would like to see U.S. forces leave soon.

Specifically, 26 percent of Iraqis say U.S. and other coalition forces should "leave now" and another 19 percent say they should go after the government chosen in this week's election takes office; that adds to 45 percent. Roughly the other half says coalition forces should remain until security is restored (31 percent), until Iraqi security forces can operate independently (16 percent), or longer (5 percent).

I don't get it. The survey says two-thirds oppose the presence of coalition forces. But then it says that 52% (31%+16%+5%) want coalition forces to remain at least until security is restored, if not longer.

Something doesn't add up here.

16 posted on 12/12/2005 5:06:57 AM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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"The MSM ignores the fact that we have "deep divisions" between the two poltical parties in this country and we function fairly well.."
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democracy is very very messy form of government, seems the MSM has little knowledge of how Our Republic works much less Iraq..By the tone of many in the MSM seems they would like Hitlers "trains run on time" dictatorship to the Messy world of people having a say in the government.
17 posted on 12/12/2005 5:12:28 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: Maceman

It makes sense to me. I probably wouldn't like forces from another country in my backyard either, but if they're protecting me from terrorists I could probably put up with them a while longer.


18 posted on 12/12/2005 5:13:33 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop

Thanks for the ping!


19 posted on 12/12/2005 7:04:58 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ConsentofGoverned
By the tone of many in the MSM seems they would like Hitlers "trains run on time" dictatorship to the Messy world of people having a say in the government.

Actually, the MSM wants "compromise" and "reaching out" in politics. Of course, the compromise and reaching out must be done by those on the right to those on the left.

20 posted on 12/12/2005 7:15:03 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (9-11 is your Peace Dividend)
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