Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

French Riots: Major MSM Refuses to use the "M" and "I" Word ( My title )
Omission from All major papers/news sources | 11/07/2005 | My Observation

Posted on 11/07/2005 6:53:27 AM PST by SirLinksalot

I am observing something very interesting in the news and I wonder if any of you are noticing the same thing ... the absolute ABSENCE and OMISSION in many newspapers and news media outlets ( e.g. Washington Post, New York Times, CNN and even FOX ) linking the riots to the RELIGIOUS background of the rioters.

The only ones who dare to use the word "MUSLIM" and "ISLAMIST" when observing this disturbing riots are men like Mark Steyn and the Iranian writer, Amir Taheri.

If you DO read any major media source linking this spreading "French intifada" to disaffected Muslim groups, I'd like to know.

Thus far, I HAVE SEEN NONE from any major mainstream news source.

Either they are deliberately withholding the whole news from us, or men like Steyn and Taheri are not telling the truth.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: culture; french; immigration; insurgency; islam; muslims; paris; riots; uprising
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-62 next last

1 posted on 11/07/2005 6:53:28 AM PST by SirLinksalot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

Yet they have no problem associating violence here with right-wingers and Christians, even when those two principles are not involved with the whack-jobbery they're reporting.


2 posted on 11/07/2005 6:56:03 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

I have heard FOX say these are Muslim rioters.


3 posted on 11/07/2005 6:57:45 AM PST by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
Surely the MSM would not withhold the truth from us.
4 posted on 11/07/2005 6:59:27 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #5 Removed by Moderator

To: SirLinksalot

So a few yutes went out to egg some cars and it got a little out of hand.


6 posted on 11/07/2005 6:59:51 AM PST by Semper Paratus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
From a message I posted on another thread . . .

It's worth noting that the "Islamic" aspect of the France riots is actually more of a coincidence than anything else. The riots in France are primarily being carried out by second and third generation immigrants who are permanently unemployed and largely unemployable due to the "closed union shop" nature of France's entire economy.

The underlying conflict is not between Muslims and non-Muslims -- it's between younger French citizens who cannot get into the work force and the older generation who have well-protected and highly-compensated jobs. Employers are only able to survive under France's onerous labor laws by hiring as few new workers as possible while maintaining increasingly bloated payrolls of long-term employees.

This is why the two groups who are perhaps most at odds over the recent riots are older immigrants -- who have been productive citizens for the most part -- and their own children, who have not been.

If you want to see a striking parallel here in the U.S., just look at any auto manufacturing plant that is staffed by UAW employees.

7 posted on 11/07/2005 6:59:54 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Reid and his clowns can pout their cherry lips and put on a big show . . . ain't nobody watchin')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

You broke da code....


8 posted on 11/07/2005 7:00:31 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Khepera

<<<<
I have heard FOX say these are Muslim rioters.
>>>>

Now that would be interesting, because the FOX NEWS website DOES NOT mention that at all.

Of course you can put two and two together and ask yourself, what religion these "Arab" or "North African" rioters adhere to.

If they were Christian, I bet it would be splashed all over the news.

Thus far, all I have seen is CNN reporting a major French Islamic organization condemning the riots.


9 posted on 11/07/2005 7:02:36 AM PST by SirLinksalot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SlowBoat407
See The Quiz
10 posted on 11/07/2005 7:04:09 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

Yet, Amir Taheri ( an Iranian muslim himself ) notes :

http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/18822



But who lives in the affected areas? In Clichy itself, more than 80 percent of the inhabitants are Muslim immigrants or their children, mostly from Arab and black Africa. In other affected towns, the Muslim immigrant community accounts for 30 percent to 60 percent of the population. But these are not the only figures that matter. Average unemployment in the affected areas is estimated at around 30 percent and, when it comes to young would-be workers, reaches 60 percent.

........

Some are even calling for the areas where Muslims form a majority of the population to be reorganized on the basis of the "millet" system of the Ottoman Empire: Each religious community (millet) would enjoy the right to organize its social, cultural and educational life in accordance with its religious beliefs.

In parts of France, a de facto millet system is already in place. In these areas, all women are obliged to wear the standardized Islamist "hijab" while most men grow their beards to the length prescribed by the sheiks.

The radicals have managed to chase away French shopkeepers selling alcohol and pork products, forced "places of sin," such as dancing halls, cinemas and theaters, to close down, and seized control of much of the local administration.

A reporter who spent last weekend in Clichy and its neighboring towns of Bondy, Aulnay-sous-Bois and Bobigny heard a single overarching message: The French authorities should keep out.

"All we demand is to be left alone," said Mouloud Dahmani, one of the local "emirs" engaged in negotiations to persuade the French to withdraw the police and allow a committee of sheiks, mostly from the Muslim Brotherhood, to negotiate an end to the hostilities.




There has got to be more going on than mere economics.

Unemployment affects almost every ethnic group in France. Yet, all we see are Arab and North African Youths rioting.


11 posted on 11/07/2005 7:07:04 AM PST by SirLinksalot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Semper Paratus
So a few yutes went out to egg some cars and it got a little out of hand.

A few what?

12 posted on 11/07/2005 7:09:59 AM PST by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

Note this further observation from Taheri regarding the riot's DEEPER cause.....

http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/18823




But how did it all start? The accepted account is that sometime last week a group of young boys in Clichy engaged in one of their favorite sports: Stealing parts of parked cars. Normally, nothing dramatic would have happened as the police have not been present in that suburb for years. The problem came when one of the inhabitants, a female busybody, telephoned the police and reported the thieving spree taking place just opposite her building. The police were thus obliged to do something that meant entering a city that, as noted, had been a no-go area for them. Once the police arrived on the scene the youth, who had been reigning over Clichy pretty unmolested for years, got really angry. A brief chase took place in the street and two of the youths, who were not actually chased by the police, sought refuge in a cordoned off area housing a power pylon. Both were electrocuted. Once news of their death was out, Clichy was all up in arms. With cries of "God is Great", bands of youths armed with whatever they could get hold of went on a rampage and forced the police to flee. The French authorities, however, could not allow a band of youths to expel the police from part of the French territory. So, they hit back by sending in Special Forces, known as the CRS, with armored cars and tough rules of engagement.

Within hours the original cause of the incidents was forgotten and the issue jelled around a demand by the representatives of the rioters that the French police leave the "occupied territories." By mid-week the riots had spread to three of the provinces neighboring Paris with a population of 5.5 million.

But who lives in the affected areas?

In Clichy itself more than 80 percent of the inhabitants are Muslim immigrants or their children, mostly from Arab and black Africa. In other affected towns the Muslim immigrant community accounts for between 30 and 60 percent of the population.

But these are not the only figures that matter. Average unemployment in the affected areas is estimated at around 30 percent and, when it comes to young would-be workers, reaches 60 percent. In these suburban towns, built in the 1950s in imitation of the Soviet social housing of the Stalinist era, people live in crammed conditions, sometimes several generations in a tiny apartment, and see "real French life" only on television.

The French used to flatter themselves for the success of their policy of "assimilation" which was supposed to turn immigrants from any backgrounds into "proper Frenchmen" within a generation at most. The policy of assimilation worked as long as immigrants came to France in drips and drops and thus could merge into a much larger mainstream. Assimilation, however, cannot work when in most schools in the affected areas fewer than 20 percent of the pupils are native French speakers.


13 posted on 11/07/2005 7:10:29 AM PST by SirLinksalot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
Unemployment affects almost every ethnic group in France. Yet, all we see are Arab and North African Youths rioting.

"White" French women have a birthrate that is among the lowest on the planet, so the younger generation of French citizens is disproportionately Arab and African. We don't see other ethnic groups rioting because France simply doesn't have large numbers of unemployed young people from those ethnic groups concentrated in certain geographic areas.

"All we demand is to be left alone," said Mouloud Dahmani, one of the local "emirs" engaged in negotiations to persuade the French to withdraw the police and allow a committee of sheiks, mostly from the Muslim Brotherhood, to negotiate an end to the hostilities.

Islam actually has very little to do with this situation. The United States has heard various forms of this exact same sentiment from any number of "community leaders" claiming to represent some kind of oppressed minority group over the last 40 years.

I wonder if "Mouloud Dahmani" is actually the Arabic translation for "Fat Al Sharpton."

14 posted on 11/07/2005 7:15:00 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Reid and his clowns can pout their cherry lips and put on a big show . . . ain't nobody watchin')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot

Chris Burns said on CNN
"little teenagers" are carrying this out.
11/05/2005 5:06:10 PM


15 posted on 11/07/2005 7:30:33 AM PST by syriacus (Bowling for Columbine's youthful angst + Fahrenheit 9/11's political passion = French MOOLIGANs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

<<<<
Islam actually has very little to do with this situation
>>>>

If this is true, why then do we see hundreds of cases of Anti-semitic attacks in the past two years ? Mostly perpetrated Arab Youths ? The estimate is that there is at least 1.5 such attacks every 2 days.

This has gone so out of hand that the French Police have advised Jews NOT to wear anything that would identify them as Jewish ( e.g. Baseball caps instead of Yamurkle ).

Why attack Jews when the problem is unemployment ? What do Jews, a small minority of the French population have to do with their economic plight ?


16 posted on 11/07/2005 7:34:47 AM PST by SirLinksalot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child
The underlying conflict is not between Muslims and non-Muslims -- it's between younger French citizens who cannot get into the work force and the older generation who have well-protected and highly-compensated jobs. Employers are only able to survive under France's onerous labor laws by hiring as few new workers as possible while maintaining increasingly bloated payrolls of long-term employees.

This is why the two groups who are perhaps most at odds over the recent riots are older immigrants -- who have been productive citizens for the most part -- and their own children, who have not been. If you want to see a striking parallel here in the U.S., just look at any auto manufacturing plant that is staffed by UAW employees.

You're right. First and foremost this is a failure of French socialism. The underclass, a byproduct of liberalthink, is always violent. Here, there, and everywhere.

17 posted on 11/07/2005 7:35:10 AM PST by GOPJ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Semper Paratus
So a few yutes went out to egg some cars and it got a little out of hand.

I've seen (and love) "My Cousin Vinny," but when I first saw the words YUTS and Yutes on other posts, I though it meant something like "Young Urban Turks," or "Young Urban Terrorists, European."

18 posted on 11/07/2005 7:36:01 AM PST by syriacus (Bowling for Columbine's youthful angst + Fahrenheit 9/11's political passion = French MOOLIGANs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SirLinksalot
How many Ali's on the arrest list?

Publish the whole list and we might be able to figure who the Yutes are.

19 posted on 11/07/2005 7:36:09 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: syriacus

Mark Steyn Observes thusly ....

http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cst-edt-steyn06.html



For half a decade, French Arabs have been carrying on a low-level intifada against synagogues, kosher butchers, Jewish schools, etc. The concern of the political class has been to prevent the spread of these attacks to targets of more, ah, general interest.



Very interesting... disaffected youths attacking Jewish businesses ( not Laotian, Cambodian, Vietnamese, Chinese businesses, which also exist near these areas )....

Why the selectivity ???


20 posted on 11/07/2005 7:39:42 AM PST by SirLinksalot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-62 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson